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FEMA exploring idea of boats to house Sandy victims
wtvr cbs ^ | 11/29/2012 | Todd Sperry

Posted on 11/30/2012 4:36:43 AM PST by tobyhill

Hoping to find a solution for New York and New Jersey residents displaced by Superstorm Sandy, the federal government announced Thursday it was looking into the possibility of housing residents on boats.

In a request for information notice posted by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, officials said they were looking for input from the maritime industry in the hopes of finding rapid and cost-effective housing options on small boats or similar vessels.

FEMA said the purpose of the request was for market research only and to explore whether the maritime industry could offer viable options for residents who remain homeless.

Officials said the vessels they requested ideally would sleep two to six adults and could be standalone boats or interconnected to create a single dwelling made of multiple units.

As of Wednesday, 473,785 households in New York and New Jersey had applied for disaster relief assistance with FEMA. While not all of the families were requesting housing assistance, officials said they continue to work with state and local officials to help all victims of the deadly storm.

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1 posted on 11/30/2012 4:36:48 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Since boats are such safe, low-maintenance, and affordable approach to living.

TC


2 posted on 11/30/2012 4:38:50 AM PST by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: tobyhill

I know who we should put on some boats.


3 posted on 11/30/2012 4:40:23 AM PST by Third Person (I'm in my prime.)
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To: tobyhill
...in the hopes of finding rapid and cost-effective housing options on small boats or similar vessels.

ROTFLMAO! Give 'em some inner tubes and some plywood. They can make their own houseboats. Buffoons!

4 posted on 11/30/2012 4:41:49 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't tax me bro! Tax that guy over there!)
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To: tobyhill

A perfect example of the type of dunderheads are running these big government beauracratic nightmares.

I just can’t wait until people like this are in charge of the nation’s entire healthcare system


5 posted on 11/30/2012 4:45:41 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: tobyhill

Good grief...this is the best the US Government can come up with?


6 posted on 11/30/2012 4:48:09 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around.")
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To: tobyhill

Do you know how many people you can stuff into just one supertanker? Seriously, the more people are accustomed to relying on the government for their survival, the bigger this problem will get over time.


7 posted on 11/30/2012 4:48:29 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This is a green idea...the waters will freeze and the boat ppl can ice skate to shore and work...what a bunch of nuts.. This is the fema trailers,TBTW I would love to have especially for free


8 posted on 11/30/2012 4:50:02 AM PST by JoanneSD
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To: tobyhill

What the hell rent a couple cruise ships for Christmas.........it can’t cost any more then Katrina has.


9 posted on 11/30/2012 4:50:39 AM PST by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: JoanneSD

LOL! I heard they never used those trailers. Maybe FEMA could take them up there, give each person a trailer and a couple of pontoons. They could make their own houseboats.


10 posted on 11/30/2012 4:53:22 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't tax me bro! Tax that guy over there!)
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To: tobyhill

Look for the clause that says Longshoreman’s Union workers have to load and offload groceries, etc., for the FEMA boathouse families.


11 posted on 11/30/2012 4:55:35 AM PST by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: tobyhill
The return of the prison ships...

Now come all you wild and you reckless youths wherever that you be
I would have you quit night-walking and shun bad company
And it's

Son oh son what have you done
You're bound for Botany Bay

I was born and bred in Whitby town and raised up honestly
Until I became a sporting lad which proved my destiny
And it's

Son oh son what have you done
You're bound for Botany Bay

I broke into some lady's house about the hour of three
Two peelers stood behind the door and they got quick hold of me
Crying

Son oh son what have you done
You're bound for Botany Bay

It bein' at the March assizes the judge to me did say
Now the jury has found you guilty, lad, you must go to Botany Bay
And it's

Son oh son what have you done
You're bound for Botany Bay

Oh to see me aged father a-trembling at the bar
Likewise my own dear mother, she 's a-tearing her grey hair Crying

Son oh son what have you done
You're bound for Botany Bay

It bein' on the twenty-third of March from England bore away
And as we sailed down the Humber we heard the sailors there
Crying

Boys oh boys there are no joys
Down there in Botany Bay


- The Whitby Lad
12 posted on 11/30/2012 4:55:49 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: tobyhill

Some love big government because only big government can solve “big” problems. But do they?

It seems like after every national disaster big government attempts to re-invent the wheel. You would think after years of floods, tornado, earthquakes, forest fires someone would be able to come up with a simple list of things that people will need afterwards.

Emergency planning should involve what to do before the emergency, what to do during the emergency, and what to do after the emergency.

Each disaster has it own unique set of problems, but most all share the same set of problems.

I had thought the whole idea behind FEMA was to provide an overall coordination of all the various emergency responders and to provide financial assistance.

So the question is, after years of dealing with natural disasters where hundreds and thousands are rendered temporarily homeless FEMA does not already know how to provide temporary shelter?


13 posted on 11/30/2012 4:56:27 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: tobyhill
living on boats in a New York/NJ/CT winter is such a pleasant experience, what with all the insulation and energy efficiency. Boat potties are to die for with fun pumping -

oh wait, can't do that once the boat is winterized plus....marinas and harbors are “no discharge” zones. So liveaboards get to crawl out onto icy decks and piers to take the long walk to go to the pot or take a shower or wash clothes

Yeah your average storm victim person is gonna love being a NYC winter liveaboard, especially families and seniors

not

14 posted on 11/30/2012 5:00:08 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf

It could be a gold mine for boat owners. Rent out your boat to FEMA for 1k a day and have it trashed.


15 posted on 11/30/2012 5:02:36 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck
Yeah ... so were mobile homes.

So what now?

Thousands of boats tied up along the shores of two states, rotting from lack of habitation and maintenance ?

16 posted on 11/30/2012 5:09:42 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: tobyhill

Why don’t they just send the refugees to one of the secret FEMA internment camps?


17 posted on 11/30/2012 5:10:17 AM PST by wrench
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To: Oldexpat

yeah, just wait for the section 8 tenants who are crapping in the hallways of those highrises to figure out that boat toilets don’t work and there is no water aboard during winter. Seriously as a cold weather winter liveaboard many days the only thing you can do is wrap up and huddle below so you do not freeze.

Been there tried that!

seriously I cannot believe FEMA is even considering “small boats” as a housing option for a northeast winter!


18 posted on 11/30/2012 5:12:03 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: tobyhill
Photobucket Might be a good idea, these folks seem happy enough.
19 posted on 11/30/2012 5:13:06 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: tobyhill
Surely some cruise line has an older ship FEMA could rent...

They can hold several thousands...

Government paid vacation...in NY harbor !!!

Mobile homes were good enough for Katrina victims...

I guess they should put them up in Waldorf ?

20 posted on 11/30/2012 5:16:01 AM PST by Popman
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To: tobyhill

Fema should check all those Katrina trailers to see if any are unoccupied and still usable. Then take both of them to NJ.

That should be doable in six months for less than a million bucks.


21 posted on 11/30/2012 5:17:10 AM PST by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: tobyhill
Anybody watching FNC right now? They keep showing a guy with a gray hoodie complaining at a council meeting last night.

If Chevy Chase and Robert DiNero had a son...? LOL!

22 posted on 11/30/2012 5:17:43 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't tax me bro! Tax that guy over there!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I have a friend in Miami with parents that came here that way.Maybe they can supplement their retirement giving building instructions


23 posted on 11/30/2012 5:18:34 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: tobyhill

So this is the greater NYC area during a sever recession. Anybody care to conjecture what the office space vacancy rate might be for first class office space? Anyone think landlords might be interested in a quick infusion of short-term cash? Anyone the displaced people might be better off in a downtown location than bobbing up and down tethered to a dock?


24 posted on 11/30/2012 5:20:46 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: silverleaf

In our area the FEMA housing thing got pretty weird.

They weren’t officially “winterized” you see...so there were problems with bringing them in for people who had their houses destroyed by flooding.

Now - these are houses that had been stripped to the studs and had no furnaces - but bureaucrats couldn’t send in insulated, heated FEMA trailers because of some red tape.

One town in PA did manage to bring some in for their residents - I’m not sure who managed to pull those strings.

As it turns out, living in a heated trailer is better than squatting in an unheated home.

I would guess these regulations might be preventing them from bringing the trailers into NY & Jersey.
How on earth anyone could propose a houseboat is better winter shelter than a trailer is beyond me.

In the end - there are snobs somewhere who don’t want a bunch of trailers being shipped in to their area.


25 posted on 11/30/2012 5:23:21 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: RetSignman

probly all they know.
Jersey folk were bitching after the 3rd day.


26 posted on 11/30/2012 5:23:32 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: tobyhill

BREAKING NEWS...Thousands of the Boat People of New Jersey are swept out to sea after a freak storm hits the east coast...developing.


27 posted on 11/30/2012 5:27:21 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: tobyhill

Gads! Just now they’re considering where to house these people? Incredible.


28 posted on 11/30/2012 5:29:00 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

Whether boats are a good solution or not, the more important issues is if we are going to have a federal agency dealing with this sorta, shouldn’t that agency have thought this through like, five years ago, and have had an execution plan being executed on Day -5 of Hurricane Sandy? With the solution in place on Days 0 and 1 of the Sandy strike?

I can’t wait for Obamacare to be fully implemented.

Hurricane relief opps are comparatively much easier to plan for and execute than the 300 million variations of personal health care occurring afresh 365 days a year.


29 posted on 11/30/2012 5:34:09 AM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: tobyhill

FEMA is exploring an idea HOW LONG after the hurricane?

Oh wait, election is over. baraq has a tee time.
And he has taxes to raise.

Also heard that homes that were being rebuilt had to comply with epa regs on heater emissions, requiring them to purchase much more expensive heaters.


30 posted on 11/30/2012 5:34:19 AM PST by Texas resident
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To: tobyhill

I was watching Fox News this AM and they showed a Staten Island town hall meeting that was out of control.

It was disgusting to see so many people bitching and moaning to and about FEMA.

Why is it the federal goobermint’s business what happened to your home? Why are you moaning about your insurance settlements to FEMA? Why is it anybody else’s business where you’re now living?

FEMA’s failures are identified by the fact that so many people need it.


31 posted on 11/30/2012 5:37:44 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: livius

Under Bush’s leadership after Katrina about 40,000 people were evacuated from New Orleans within 5 days! Evacuees were sent to shelters and temp housing all over the country

Now I’m sure Texas doesn’t want these folks since they still are dealing with Katrina squatters, but surely Vermont could use some more liberals .... especially more people of color. What says Bernie Sanders, the good socialist Senator from Vermont? Turn Vermont into a FEMA camp - from their voting patterns everyone there loves big govt compassion so just give them even bigger govt.

Or just send the homeless to one of the deactivated military bases located throughout New Englnad. Why NOT?


32 posted on 11/30/2012 5:44:09 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: tobyhill
the federal government announced Thursday it was looking into the possibility of housing residents on boats

By the time the feral government gets done 'exploring ideas', most people will already have their lives back together.

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You'd THINK the billions of OUR dollars we're forced to chuck down this black hole in the name of preparedness would mean they'd actually be .... ya'know....prepared!

33 posted on 11/30/2012 5:53:02 AM PST by MamaTexan (It is impossible to follow the Original Intent of the Constitution and NOT acknowledge secession)
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To: mbarker12474
Hurricane relief opps are comparatively much easier to plan for and execute than the 300 million variations of personal health care occurring afresh 365 days a year.

Excellent observations.

Also, when is the press going to notice that FEMA really botched this. There's no excuse for not having any advance plans for this type of event.

But now that the Sacred One is in power, I guess they'll notice probably about the same time they notice that Obamacare won't work, meaning never, even though everything lies in shambles around them.

34 posted on 11/30/2012 5:59:11 AM PST by livius
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To: tobyhill

Don’t put too much faith in FEMA THEY’RE INEPT
PEOPLE ARE STILL SUFFERING IN NYC FROM SANDY
AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT BEING HOMELESS


35 posted on 11/30/2012 6:06:29 AM PST by brooklyn dave (1st commandment THOU SHALT NOT BELIEVE THY GOVERNMENT)
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To: tobyhill

I thought FEMA had camps and I thought one of the justifications they gave for those camps was to help out in case of a natural disaster. What’s with that?


36 posted on 11/30/2012 6:06:58 AM PST by austinaero
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To: PowderMonkey
The return of the prison ships...

Photobucket

Fun City used to have one (a couple?) of these

37 posted on 11/30/2012 6:06:58 AM PST by Roccus
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To: FlingWingFlyer
LOL! I heard they never used those trailers. Maybe FEMA could take them up there, give each person a trailer and a couple of pontoons. They could make their own houseboats.
38 posted on 11/30/2012 6:09:16 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: MamaTexan
would mean they'd actually be .... ya'know....prepared!

The only part of any government that works as advertised is the military, and that only works as advertised when they are breaking things and killing people.

/johnny

39 posted on 11/30/2012 6:14:00 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“The only part of any government that works as advertised is the military, and that only works as advertised when they are breaking things and killing people.”

Spot on!

Now, fellow FReepers, imagine what all the newly armed bureaucraps from TSAPersons to the Po-lution Po-lice will do when Obama declares an emergency and they begin to act out their ‘Inner A$$hole’ tendencies.


40 posted on 11/30/2012 6:37:01 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

The first person to fall off one will sue.


41 posted on 11/30/2012 6:38:20 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: tobyhill
Fema used to have thousands of mobile trailers stored around the country for use in emergencies. I know they were selling a lot of them at reduced prices. Maybe they don't have facilities to park them in the area of need around NY/NJ.
42 posted on 11/30/2012 6:46:09 AM PST by deport
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To: tobyhill; flaglady47; oswegodeee; mickie; Chigirl 26; surfer; Bob Ireland; seekthetruth; ...
THE FEMA LOVE SONG

(Or - We're the Government and We're Here to Help Ya)

We're gonna put ya in a slow boat in Jersey
All to yourself alone
Getcha and keep ya on the dole evermore
Leave all your problems
Here on the sweet Jersey shore
Bob on the briny
As you freeze off your heinie
Huddled and cold as a stone
We're gonna put ya in a slow boat in Jersey
Just till ya get your loan
(We're loaded with mersey)

We're here to help ya with a slow boat in Jersey
All to yourself alone
Getcha and keep ya on the dole evermore
You'll be provided with some rum and an oar
There's an ice-covered pier for you to go find a beer
For the head use a pail
Throw it over the rail
Get a chill, use a sail
Spring a leak, start to bail
Yep, we're here to house ya in a bay cold and misty
So, all thanks to FEMA
(and don't forget Christie)

Leni/MinuteGal

43 posted on 11/30/2012 7:09:52 AM PST by MinuteGal (Please Restore Former Format on FR "Latest Posts" Page ASAP !)
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To: tobyhill

Well, I guess that does away with the FEMA Camp conspiracy.


44 posted on 11/30/2012 7:14:07 AM PST by Lazamataz (Islam is a religious form of Nazism.)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

“Good grief...this is the best the US Government can come up with?”

FEMA’s incompetence in the wake of Katrina and Rita was manifest, especially when set alongside the actions of the state governments in Texas and Mississippi. The people who spoke up about were mocked, maligned or ignored. Nothing changed.

Perhaps with the victims of the incompetence being in the only part of the “Union” that matters - the Northeast - some superficial or transitory reforms will be made.


45 posted on 11/30/2012 7:18:27 AM PST by Psalm 144 ("I didn't the Democratic Party. The party left me." Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“The only part of any government that works as advertised is the military, and that only works as advertised when they are breaking things and killing people.”

Which current ROEs pretty much make impossible unless we are the de facto support for some jihadist faction or other.


46 posted on 11/30/2012 7:20:38 AM PST by Psalm 144 ("I didn't the Democratic Party. The party left me." Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: tobyhill
The USS Enterprise will be available soon.

Complete with its own self-contained power source.

47 posted on 11/30/2012 7:27:16 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: tobyhill

And they crucified Brownie for the idea of putting people in trailers.


48 posted on 11/30/2012 7:32:46 AM PST by cookcounty ("For the first time in my adult life I am not proud of my country.")
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

Some cruise line brought some ships to the Gulf area after one of our hurricanes but no one wanted to live on the water so the ships left. Why are they trying it again? Didn’t work the first time.


49 posted on 11/30/2012 7:51:22 AM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: tobyhill

geez, does anyone remember that they brought in a cruise liner for Katrina and NOBODY got on? Does the government ever learn?? The whole point of the next TWO rounds of elections is a GOVERNMENT THAT IS SMALLER AND WORKS! / who am I kidding...?


50 posted on 11/30/2012 8:06:45 AM PST by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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