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Obama demands $1.6 trillion tax boost, and an unlimited credit card
Daily Caller ^ | 11/30/2012 | Neil Munro

Posted on 11/30/2012 8:19:05 AM PST by Qbert

President Barack Obama has dramatically upped his demands in the fiscal crisis negotiations: He wants Congress to levy twice as much in extra taxes from Americans as he urged during the election campaign, give up its control over the nation’s debt limit, and fund an immediate $50 billion stimulus for his political priorities.

In exchange, Obama offered to consider — but not necessarily accept — GOP proposals for cutting $400 billion from Medicare and other programs strongly favored by off-year voters.

That listening session would take place sometime in 2013, giving the president plenty of time to wrap the unpopular demand around the necks of the GOP legislators before the 2014 midterm elections.

The surprise package was given to Republican House Speaker John Boehner on Thursday by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner.

Geithner presided over Obama’s four-year spending spree, which has left 23 million Americans unemployed, underemployed or out of the workforce. That spending has been funded by $7 trillion in borrowed funds or government-printed cash, generating additional debt of roughly $20,000 per person.

The budget package is slated to avoid the economic pain due from the scheduled Jan. 1 imposition of planned budget cuts and tax increases, worth $500 billion during 2013.

Boehner and other Republicans derided Obama’s wishlist, which was described by the New York Times as  ”a detailed proposal … loaded with Democratic priorities and short in detailed spending cuts.”

The Washington Post described the package as lacking “any concessions to Republicans, most notably on the core issue of where to set tax rates for the wealthiest Americans… [and] it seemed to take Republicans by surprise.”

“I’m here seriously trying to resolve [the fiscal crisis], and I would hope the White House would get serious as well,” Boehner told reporters Thursday.

The package is “a step backward,” said the Republican’s minority leader in the Senate, Mitch McConnell.

Some GOP legislators also complained about Obama’s use of a closed-door negotiation process.

“Until this fantasy ‘plan’ from a secret meeting is made public and scored by the Congressional Budget Office, it does not exist,” said an evening statement from Sen. Jeff Sessions, the Republican’s ranking chairman on the Senate budget committee.

“Based on history, we can safely assume that reports that this ‘plan’ saves $4 trillion is a fabrication [and] is a distraction that allows the White House to continue to run out the clock so it can have maximal leverage to force through a bad deal in the last minutes before midnight.”

If accepted, Obama’s new demand that Congress give up its control over the debt limit would mark a huge loss of Congress’ financial power to the executive branch.

The debt-limit caps the federal government’s debt, which is now set at $16.4 trillion.

Annual tax receipts are only enough to fund the government spending for the first nine months of each year, and Obama can’t legally borrow money on the international market once that debt limit is reached in early 2013.

In 2011, Republicans used their power over the debt limit to squeeze some spending reductions from Obama.

On Thursday, Boehner said Obama would have to bargain for another increase in the debt limit by curbing spending.

But Obama’s post-election lunge for more taxes and an even bigger federal government has also cracked the public unity of GOP legislators.

Sessions and other GOP legislators worry that Obama’s team is posturing in front of the media and voters, while actually delaying and blocking budget talks with Boehner, until the deadline is almost up on Jan. 1.

By posturing until Jan. 1, Obama can pressure Boehner and other Republicans leaders to rush an last-minute tax-increase through Congress while sidelining other legislators and voters, say GOP legislators, including Sessions.

It is “only the speaker and the president of the United States who are negotiating,” Sessions complained. “Apparently the [Democratic] majority leader of the Senate is not intimately involved, the [Democratic] chairman of the budget committee is not involved, the [Democratic] chairman of the finance committee is not involved. … Certainly Republican leaders are not involved,” he said.

“Shouldn’t the president of the United States, the only person who represents everybody in the country, lay out his plan, or must that remain a secret too? Will it just be revealed to us on the eve of Christmas or eve of the new calendar year? We will be asked to vote for it, to ratify it like lemmings, I suppose,” he said in a Thursday statement in the Senate.

“We [senators] ought to be engaged, [because that] would allow the American people to know what’s happening,” he concluded.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boehner; fiscalcliff; obama; taxhikes

"Sessions and other GOP legislators worry that Obama’s team is posturing in front of the media and voters, while actually delaying and blocking budget talks with Boehner... By posturing until Jan. 1, Obama can pressure Boehner and other Republicans leaders to rush an last-minute tax-increase through Congress while sidelining other legislators and voters, say GOP legislators, including Sessions."

You have been warned.

1 posted on 11/30/2012 8:19:08 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

The dictator is attempting now to consolidate his power.

President Morsi errr.. Obama.


2 posted on 11/30/2012 8:27:10 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Qbert

No Democrat wants to take responsibility for their own actions.

As then Spkr. Rep. Nancy Pelosi once said: “We have to pass Obama’care’ to see what is in it.”

And now Benghazi-Coward Obama’s Democrats are saying: ‘We have to go over Obama’s Fiscal Cliff to see how far we fall financially.’


3 posted on 11/30/2012 8:28:41 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Qbert

Let the taxes increase and don’t raise the debt ceiling.


4 posted on 11/30/2012 8:29:08 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: Qbert

“Obama demands $1.6 trillion tax boost, and an unlimited credit card”
***********

Or else.....what?????

Clue: This IS already what!

Semper Watching!

Wake Up Sleeping Giant!
This IS 1984+ Here and Now!

Semper Watching!
*****


5 posted on 11/30/2012 8:31:49 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Qbert
Maybe he got an American Express (Centurion) Black Card.

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6 posted on 11/30/2012 8:33:15 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral.)
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To: Qbert

Obama would not ask for it, if he did not think Bonehead would
not give in.


7 posted on 11/30/2012 8:37:16 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Qbert

Going over the cliff means budget cuts that will slice a whopping 10% of the deficit. How is that draconian?


8 posted on 11/30/2012 8:44:47 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: headstamp 2

The Shiite believe a tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West to usher in Islam’s “supposed” savior the mahdi, scary, here comes the antichrist, and it ain’t no European union leader nor a pope, it’s a mooslim!


9 posted on 11/30/2012 8:56:00 AM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: csmusaret

"Going over the cliff means budget cuts that will slice a whopping 10% of the deficit. How is that draconian?"

Exactly. And a deficit that is 1.3 Trillion, at that.

Not to mention the fact that we had big spending cuts under Gingrich's leadership, and the sky did not fall. In fact (surprise, surprise) the economy soared without massive deficits.

10 posted on 11/30/2012 8:57:47 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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Fine. Increase tax rates however much you want. You won’t get more than $0.15T revenue increase. Tax revenue as a percentage of GDP doesn’t exceed 20%, and we’re at 19% now with GDP of $15T - do the math.

Oh, and unlimited spending on that credit card is being funded by writing 0% checks on the other credit cards; they’ll go to 30% in about a year. Just don’t miss any payments, or your credit score plummets and debt collectors crawl out of the woodwork. Yes, Mr. Obama, you can just walk away from all of it, leaving the rest of us to cope with the disaster - but before you do you’re on the hook for 4 years. Those cards will get maxed out before then, the 47% will turn on you when their EBTs don’t swipe or checks don’t arrive, the next generation of voters will realize they’re stuck with the tab for a party they didn’t attend, and that pesky Tea Party is regrouping & “going Galt”.


11 posted on 11/30/2012 8:59:24 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: csmusaret

It’s “draconian” because the 47% won’t take kindly to any cuts in handouts, much less $0.13T in reductions.


12 posted on 11/30/2012 9:04:24 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: ctdonath2

Obama has been running annual deficits of $1002 Billion each of the past four years. His plan to get us out of that fiscal hole? Raise $160 Billion in new taxes and spend an additional $50 Billion. Leaving us with $892 Billion of new debt is not a plan, it’s incompetency!


13 posted on 11/30/2012 9:05:59 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: csmusaret

It’s “draconian” because the 47% won’t take kindly to any cuts in handouts, much less $0.13T in reductions.


14 posted on 11/30/2012 10:06:58 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Qbert

Hello inflation! Prepare now accordingly.


15 posted on 11/30/2012 10:15:21 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: headstamp 2

Indeed he’s dumb and dangerous yet to many fail to their eyes.


16 posted on 11/30/2012 11:01:28 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Qbert

Hussein is laughing his ass off right now. His starting position for “negotiations” is a very unserious $1.6 Trillion dollar tax increase and no debt ceiling — ever.

At least Mitch saw the humor in it.

Unfortunately, Republicans will see these ridiculous demands as serious negotiating points and will reach across the aisle to only give Hussein a $1.4 Trillion tax increase, get a promise to consider budget cuts next year (Ha!) and then vote to raise the debt ceiling indefinitely for the next 10 years and try to claim it as a victory.


17 posted on 11/30/2012 11:33:24 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: Qbert

If the Congress isn’t going to control the purse strings, then what do we need them for?


18 posted on 11/30/2012 12:41:32 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Qbert

The Republicans should just hang their heads and walk past the reporters without saying a word.


19 posted on 11/30/2012 12:43:09 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Qbert

Curious how all of the thoughtful and detailed budgets that Paul Ryan has developed—a number of them—have not been brought up in any of the ‘fiscal cliff’ discussions.

He’s the only one I trust in all of this.


20 posted on 11/30/2012 1:54:29 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: FerociousRabbit

His starting position for “negotiations” is a very unserious $1.6 Trillion dollar tax increase and no debt ceiling — ever”””

Obama campaigned for 2 + years on an $800 billion tax increase. Now he doubles that amount—and it isn’t even 30 days since the election and most states have not yet certified their votes!!!

What an arrogant POS.


21 posted on 11/30/2012 2:04:14 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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