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Believe it, or not: Chevy Volt tops most-loved car survey again
NBC ^ | 11/30/2012

Posted on 11/30/2012 8:28:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind

General Motors' Chevrolet Volt plug-in hybrid car topped Consumer Reports' annual owner-satisfaction survey for the second straight year.

Ninety-two percent of Volt owners surveyed by the influential consumer magazine said they would definitely buy the Volt again, earning the electric car the top ranking. Last year, 93 percent of respondents said they would buy the car again.

"The Volt's two-year reign at the top of our satisfaction survey points to the continuing trend of owners' enthusiasm for cars that are fuel-efficient, especially as we see more and more hybrid and electric models hitting the market," Consumer Reports' auto editor, Rik Paul, said in a statement.

The Volt, introduced in late 2010, has struggled with early soft sales, criticism from opponents of federal green-car tax credits, and a 2011 government probe of Volt battery fires that found no major problems.

Nevertheless, the Volt, which sells for just under $40,000 before a $7,500 federal tax credit, has a devoted following among those who brag about avoiding gas stations. The car can travel about 40 miles on an electric charge before the gasoline-powered engine kicks in for additional driving range.

In addition to the Volt, other fuel-efficient models that scored well in the Consumer Reports survey included the Toyota Camry Hybrid, Prius and Prius C, and the Nissan Leaf all-electric car.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automakers; chevyvolt; generalmotors; gm; top10
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To: SeekAndFind
I stopped reading Consumer Reports during the last century when they gave Nikon 35mm cameras a bad report, citing the “shockingly” high numbers returned for repair. They neglected to mention that Nikon was the Nr. 1 camera carried by war correspondents, journalists, combat and free lance photographers of the day. From El Salvador to Viet Nam, and the Belgian Congo. No photog worth his salt covered a bush war with less than 3 Nikons strung around his neck. And, yup they got the snarf beat out of them after thousands of frames, and had to be repaired.
51 posted on 11/30/2012 9:15:29 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is not at all surprising.

Using the same sort of reasoning, I’m sure that the Reverend Sun Myung Moon was the most beloved religious figure of late 20th century.


52 posted on 11/30/2012 9:17:04 AM PST by Skepolitic
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To: SeekAndFind
Saw this ad on TV where the guy proclaims he's never spent a penny on gas ...
... but he never says a feckin' word on what his electric bill is.
Spread the BS is more like it.

53 posted on 11/30/2012 9:17:31 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

I wonder how the Chevy Volt folks who lost electricity when Hurricane Sandy struck, got to drive their car?

I mean, no electricity for days ( or weeks depending on where you live ) and queueing for hours just get to get gas....

How’s the Chevy Volt going to work then?

Maybe a car that runs on wind or solar power will be in the works.... :)


54 posted on 11/30/2012 9:20:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: twister881

the 1984 chevy Volt eh?


55 posted on 11/30/2012 9:21:39 AM PST by Gasshog
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To: headstamp 2; All

My average commute is roughly 40 miles 1 way. The volt won’t work for me.


56 posted on 11/30/2012 9:25:42 AM PST by KevinDavis (And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ninety-two percent of Kool Aid drinkers endorse... Kool Aid.

What a shocker.


57 posted on 11/30/2012 9:25:50 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: ViLaLuz

“surveying the two people that bought them...”

Yep, both liberal owners while smoking pot, said the
Volt was the best car they had ever owned.

They couldn’t remember what cars they had owned before the Volt.

Neither owner knew if they had a driver’s license or where it was, if they had one.


58 posted on 11/30/2012 9:26:31 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I see your Volt and I raise you an Un.

59 posted on 11/30/2012 9:32:16 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: faithhopecharity

I agree with you. I would be very happy with a Volt IF I was the guy who bought one of those 2 year leases for $200/month for a $40K car.

As for Consumer Reports, it depends on the amount of people in their sample. When they do the report on their used cars once a year it is based on the people who read their magazine and fill out their survey. The sample is something like 1 million responses. It is a wide sample of automobile owners satisfaction. They are very good at showing which used cars to buy and which to avoid. For example, they gave horrible marks to the 2004 BMW X5. My friend had one. He paid $52k for it new. It was in the shop ten times in the first year. It was a real lemon. He tried to sell it a few years later and could not give the car away.

Another example was a Honda Civic we bought used for my daughter. CR gave it very high marks for a used car. She drove it for four years and then sold it for $200 more than we paid for it FOUR years later. She never put $1 into it other than tires.

When it comes to buying appliances they are also a good information source because they actually go out and purchase the actual fridge, stove, vacuum cleaner, blender, coffee maker, etc. They will then test them over an extended period and report their findings.

However, when it comes to electronics. I prefer CNET. They are much more of a comprehensive reporting agency on gadgets, tv, stereo, cameras than Consumer Reports.


60 posted on 11/30/2012 9:41:10 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: PowderMonkey

I stopped trusting Consumer Reports after I purchased their number one vacuum cleaner and it was one of the worst vacuum cleaners that I ever had.


61 posted on 11/30/2012 9:45:37 AM PST by Eva
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To: oh8eleven
If you drive your Volt to visit a friend or relative, what's the protocol? Do you just assume they're going to let you plug your car in to recharge while they're visiting? Do the Volt owners offer to fill up their host's gas tank in return for a charge?

Since modern etiquette has not apparently addressed this question, I guess I'll just have to decline any visits from E-car driving morons.

62 posted on 11/30/2012 9:55:55 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack
If you drive your Volt to visit a friend or relative, what's the protocol?
Øbama's stash.
63 posted on 11/30/2012 10:02:51 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind

A 2011 government probe of Volt *battery fires* that found no major problems and gives a $7,500 federal tax credit.
Logic isn’ in use.


64 posted on 11/30/2012 10:27:45 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind

The only new car I bought based on Consumer Reports was the WORST car I ever owned...(Volkswagen Dasher...).


65 posted on 11/30/2012 10:34:35 AM PST by Donkey Odious ( Adapt, improvise, and overcome - now a motto for us all.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
This Volt poll reminds me of how Battlefield Earth always ends up on those lists of the top selling/most beloved science fiction novels.

The Scientology cultists buy up copies by the crate and freep all of the polls, when in reality it's a mediocre piece of pulp not too well though of outside the cult.

66 posted on 11/30/2012 10:46:36 AM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: SeekAndFind

I saw some numbers yesterday regarding TGW surveys (Things Gone Wrong) for all of the auto manufacturers. This was a slide presentation, so I can not source them for my FRiends.

The general summary was that the “New GM” TGW’s had improved by a huge swing over the last couple of years. The first thought that popped into my head was, “well, sure, their customers love the auto bailout, so they would naturally answer more favorably to purposefully skew these results.”

Yes, they listed GM as “New GM.”


67 posted on 11/30/2012 10:49:22 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most Americans LOVE not owning one. LOL!


68 posted on 11/30/2012 11:12:11 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't tax me bro! Tax that guy over there!)
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To: oh8eleven

“Saw this ad on TV where the guy proclaims he’s never spent a penny on gas ...
... but he never says a feckin’ word on what his electric bill is.”

Before large “industry” presentation yesterday, that I described in my earlier post, they were playing some internal commercials. In one of those they had a “geeky doctor” discussing battery power and in that ad they claimed that 33.7 KwH produced the same power as produced by 1 gallon of gas. I won’t speak to the veracity of that claim, but let’s run the math using that number.

In my area, the electricity cost is $0.1809 KwH, so 33.7 x 0.1809 = $6.09 as the cost of electricity to produce the same power as 1 gallon of gas. If electricity rates stay constant, then gas must be higher than $6.09 per gallon before an electric car makes any economic sense.

Of course, that does not even consider the cost of the replacement battery or other costs, so the whole economic approach crashes and burns very quickly.


69 posted on 11/30/2012 11:31:03 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“If you drive your Volt to visit a friend or relative, what’s the protocol? Do you just assume they’re going to let you plug your car in to recharge while they’re visiting? Do the Volt owners offer to fill up their host’s gas tank in return for a charge?”

You present an interesting canard. If they do come to visit, I would be inclined to not let them plug in without being willing to pay me for that cost. However, if they don’t plug in, then they may be forced to stay and any electric car owner would be insufferable after a few short hours!

I guess I’ll play it safe and just ban them from visiting.


70 posted on 11/30/2012 11:36:17 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: ViLaLuz

The government bought most of them.


71 posted on 11/30/2012 11:38:07 AM PST by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: CSM
"I guess I’ll play it safe and just ban them from visiting."

I think that the best policy. It may never make the news, but sooner or later it's going to happen: Some (to borrow your word) insufferable prick is going to go somewhere in his e-car, and demand to be recharged while visiting. The host is going to refuse and it will devolve into fisticuffs.

72 posted on 11/30/2012 11:42:16 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: CSM
Of course, that does not even consider the cost of the replacement battery or other costs ...
Or time. According to GM, the Volt battery takes 10 hours to charge a drained battery.
If your friends live 30-40 miles away, they'll either be at your place half the night, or won't be able to make the "no gas" claim.
73 posted on 11/30/2012 11:48:21 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

Do you happen to know how to converg KwH into actual time? I know that it would depend on the “draw” of the item using the electricity and that there are very likely many other variables, however it would be nice to know the actual cost of that 10 hour Volt charge.


74 posted on 11/30/2012 11:57:07 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: CSM
... the actual cost of that 10 hour Volt charge.
It really depends where you live.
A (2010) map shows how kWh pricing ranges from 6 cents to over 24 cents.


75 posted on 11/30/2012 12:22:03 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind

Did you get asked, I didn’t.


76 posted on 11/30/2012 12:48:45 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: Ingtar
Actually, I totally believe it.

Saying anything else would be admitting that they screwed up. After watching the mental gymnastics a few hybrid owners went through to justify their purchases to me, I totally get this.

77 posted on 11/30/2012 1:34:23 PM PST by wbill
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To: SeekAndFind

You just cannot fix stupid.


78 posted on 11/30/2012 1:40:35 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: traumer

79 posted on 11/30/2012 8:49:08 PM PST by traumer
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