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Redskins' Star QB On Coming To D.C.: 'I Fear God' ^ | November 30, 2012 | Gregory Gwyn-Williams Jr.

Posted on 11/30/2012 9:48:27 AM PST by

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To: circlecity

“Your problem is with scripture. As noted above “The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom” is a direct quote from the Psalms, Proverbs and the book of Ecclesiastes. “

The original word translated as “fear” in each of the scriptures you noted can be translated as “reverence.” Look it up.

Fear, like the doubt in Peter when he was walking on the water, will cause one to sink away from God.

In demons it is the fear of God that causes them to run. Demons had to obey Jesus out of fear as they thought His Love would kill them, just as the eunuchs were killed when they touched the ark of the covenant. If you fear God, then there must be a demon in you that creates the fear! Luke 8:37 Then all the people of the surrounding country of the Gerasenes asked Jesus to leave them; for they were seized with great fear. So he got into the boat and returned.

I have no fear of God and I never will as fear would cause me to run from, rather than embrace God.

Fear shuts down the heart, Love opens the heart. I prefer to be open and allow the Holy Spirit to flow into me.

Do you fear your wife or love her? It’s virtually impossible to do both at the same time unless you really don’t understand LOVE.

Luke 8:50
When Jesus heard this, he replied, “Do not fear. Only believe, and she will be saved.”

41 posted on 11/30/2012 10:58:41 AM PST by tired&retired
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Fear of the Lord is a good starting point but RG III also needs to fear the legacy of Vinnie Cerrato i.e. the fact that the deadskins don’t have anything much resembling an offensive line and have ruined two other franchise QBs over the last dozen years or so. If he’s very lucky he can hope to stay healthy until Shnahan and Bruce Allen can get a real line in front of him and one or two decent receivers.

42 posted on 11/30/2012 11:00:58 AM PST by varmintman
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To: tired&retired


43 posted on 11/30/2012 11:06:24 AM PST by sigzero
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It just goes to show you how woefully inadequate language is. Our relationship with the Creator of the Universe cannot be contained in a single word. We need a panoply. In no particular order (and even this does not exhaust it):


44 posted on 11/30/2012 11:06:24 AM PST by COBOL2Java (GOPe: Already prepping for their 2016 loss - Jeb Bush!)
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STRONGS NT 5401: φόβος 2. reverence, respect (for authority, rank, dignity): Romans 13:7; 1 Peter 2:18; 1 Peter 3:16 (15); ἡ ἐν φόβῳ ἀναστροφή, behavior coupled with (cf. ἐν, I. 5 e.) reverence for one's husband, 1 Peter 3:2; φόβος with a genitive of the object: τοῦ κυρίου, Acts 9:31; 2 Corinthians 5:11; Χριστοῦ, Ephesians 5:21 (not Rec.); Θεοῦ, Romans 3:18; 2 Corinthians 7:1; (Ephesians 5:21 Rec.); Θεοῦ is omitted as suggested by the context, 1 Peter 1:17; (often in the O. T. יְהוָה יִרְאַת and אֱלֹהִים יִרְאַת). (Synonyms: see δειλία, δέος, at the end; cf. φοβέω.) While phobos can mean both reverence, respect or fear. Read it both ways in context and see which word makes the most sense in the over all.
45 posted on 11/30/2012 11:07:39 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: PigRigger
Me too. I have heard him speak. He is intelligent, well read and has excellent diction. To all outward appearances, a fine young man.

Inwardly, he seems to have his head straight.

46 posted on 11/30/2012 11:20:52 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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Which God?...........

47 posted on 11/30/2012 11:37:37 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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48 posted on 11/30/2012 11:43:02 AM PST by RedMDer (Please support Toys for Tots this CHRISTmas season.)
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To: tired&retired
"The original word translated as “fear” in each of the scriptures you noted can be translated as “reverence.” Look it up."

Oh, I am quite familiar with the Hebrew word "yir'ah" (yr'h) and while reverance is an included aspect it is still properly translated as fear and included fear as traditionally understood. See: Ex 20:20 when Moses tells the scared people "Do not fear" - same word. This is why it is translated as fear in the KJV, NIV, ESV, NASB and RSV. I imagine the same is true with the Catholic translations also but I'm not really as well read in DR or NAB as I am in the others.

49 posted on 11/30/2012 11:46:55 AM PST by circlecity
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To: tired&retired
"STRONGS NT 5401: φόβος"

That is NT and the quotes everyone has been referring to are OT. Even the NT word you cite, Fear is the primary meaning and reverance is a secondary meaning thus, the number "2" in your lexicon cite. You conveniently the the "1" primary meaning out.

50 posted on 11/30/2012 11:52:50 AM PST by circlecity
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To: hosepipe

The true God. Which science?

51 posted on 11/30/2012 11:54:08 AM PST by circlecity
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To: tired&retired

“Fear” as it’s translated from all 4 of the Hebrew Biblical texts that I own.

I fear God so that I fear all else less.

52 posted on 11/30/2012 12:16:54 PM PST by onedoug
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To: tired&retired

Fear of the Lord is one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. It has been described:

Fear of the Lord (Wonder and Awe): With the gift of fear of the Lord we are aware of the glory and majesty of God. A person with wonder and awe knows that God is the perfection of all we desire: perfect knowledge, perfect goodness, perfect power, and perfect love. This gift is described by Aquinas as a fear of separating oneself from God. He describes the gift as a “filial fear,” like a child’s fear of offending his father, rather than a “servile fear,” that is, a fear of punishment. Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom (Prov 1:7) because it puts our mindset in correct location with respect to God: we are the finite, dependent creatures, and He is the infinite, all-powerful Creator.

53 posted on 11/30/2012 12:24:08 PM PST by Crolis ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it." -GKC)
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To: tired&retired

This is a good man here. A role model. If he setes down and becomes a pocket passer like Brady or Peyton Manning - he’ll make Canton easily

54 posted on 11/30/2012 12:41:59 PM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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To: circlecity

I was taught it’s reverential fear, like that of a young son to his father. Because, after all, what else is the relationship but a young son (or daughter) to their Father, in Heaven?

55 posted on 11/30/2012 1:18:48 PM PST by ro_dreaming (G.K. Chesterton, “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It’s been found hard and lef)
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To: Crolis

Experiencing the Divine Treasure on almost daily basis, I can say that it is total bliss. It is Love beyond words. It brings tears to my eyes, every time I experience it. It feels like a starburst of light from my inner being that just radiates out in all directions. The liquid light feels as though it will lift me through the ceiling. If someone offered me a million dollars to give up the experience one time, I would just laugh at them.

It is absolutely unfathomable to have one iota of fear while experiencing His Love. It is just not possible. It’s the reason that the fruits of His Spirit are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, and faithfulness. Even death is a mere bump on the path when filled with the Holy Spirit. While I slip and fall often, He keeps picking me up again and again, in spite of me.

I first experienced this in 1988 when I died from meningitis, crossed over and came back here to earth again. I didn’t want to return, but had no choice. It’s been with me much of the time ever since. I’m a Christian, and often find that Bible scriptures I have never read, are learned by listening to the words coming out of my mouth. It’s not me. It is done through me.

Ever since my NDE, I feel people’s prayers, often even when I have never met the person or am not even near them. Quite a few years ago I was guided to go to a Carmelite monastery for a few days by myself for silent meditation, prayer and inner guidance. I’m not Catholic, and never have been, but I do have a lot of respect for the writings of St, Theresa of Avila, the founder of the Carmelite Order. At 7:15 a.m. the morning I was to show up at the monastery, I felt a strong prayer being said for me but didn’t recognize the source. I drove the twenty miles to the monastery later that morning and was greeted by an old nun whom I had never met prior. As soon as I walked up to her, I felt her energy and recognized the source of the early morning prayer.

I said to her, “Thank you for the prayer you said for me this morning at 7:15.” She looked at me surprised and responded, “That’s exactly when I said my prayers.” To which I replied, “I know, I felt them and know that they were heard above.”

This type of situation happens to me all the time, all over the world, even with total strangers. It’s not me. Thus my comments on this thread are much more based upon actual experiences than they are supporting scripture.


56 posted on 11/30/2012 2:04:12 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired

1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear; for fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not reached perfection in love.

57 posted on 11/30/2012 2:09:23 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: Pietro
Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.

What this means is fear of God's laws is the beginning of wisdom. The lesson here is obey God's laws and you will have a better happier life. Don't defy the laws of gravity (jump off a cliff) and don't defy God's laws. Seems straightforward to me

58 posted on 11/30/2012 2:14:00 PM PST by dennisw ( The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: tired&retired

Yes, God is love. And because we can trust in Him, we should fear no man, and fear no situation.

Scripture also clearly tells us — in dozens and dozens of passages — that we are to fear Him.

Are you saying that we should discard those passages that instruct us to fear God? Or will you do the hard work of trying to figure out what Scripture means when it instructs us to fear God?

59 posted on 11/30/2012 2:32:16 PM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: cherry; Slyfox; tired&retired
When I am on my knees contemplating the magnificence of all creation and the omnipotence of the Creator thereof, I cannot help but be stricken by vast gulf that separates He and me.

Fear, awe and humility are the appropriate responses to that realization and the first step across the yawning gap.

60 posted on 11/30/2012 2:41:19 PM PST by Pietro
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