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New E15 Gasoline May Damage Vehicles and Cause Consumer Confusion
PR Newswire - Yahoo ^ | 11/30/12 | PR Newswire

Posted on 11/30/2012 12:23:15 PM PST by NormsRevenge

AAA research reveals need for regulators and industry to suspend E15 sales to protect motorists

ORLANDO, Fla., Nov. 30, 2012 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- A recent survey by AAA finds a strong likelihood of consumer confusion and the potential for voided warranties and vehicle damage as a result of the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) recent approval of E15 gasoline. An overwhelming 95 percent of consumers surveyed have not heard of E15, a newly approved gasoline blend that contains up to 15 percent ethanol. ...

Only about 12 million out of the more than 240 million light-duty vehicles on the roads today are approved by manufacturers to use E15 gasoline, based on a survey conducted by AAA of auto manufacturers. ...

... said AAA President & CEO Robert Darbelnet. "Bringing E15 to the market without adequate safeguards does not responsibly meet the needs of consumers."

Unsuspecting consumers using E15 could end up with engine problems that might not be covered by their vehicles' warranties. Five manufacturers (BMW, Chrysler, Nissan, Toyota and Volkswagen) are on record saying their warranties will not cover fuel-related claims caused by the use of E15. Seven additional automakers (Ford, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, Mercedes-Benz and Volvo) have stated that the use of E15 does not comply with the fuel requirements specified in their owner's manuals and may void warranty coverage.

The only vehicles currently approved by automakers to use E15 are flex-fuel models, 2001 model-year and newer Porsches, 2012 model-year and newer GM vehicles and 2013 model-year Ford vehicles. These approvals extend only to cars, light-duty trucks and medium-duty passenger vehicles (SUVs). The use of E15 is expressly prohibited in heavy-duty vehicles, boats, motorcycles, power equipment, lawn mowers and off-road vehicles.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aaa; confusion; consumer; damage; e15; epa; ethanol; gasoline; vehicles

1 posted on 11/30/2012 12:23:17 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

I trust AAA a lot more than I trust the EPA.


2 posted on 11/30/2012 12:24:08 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

How many engineers with engineering degrees do you suppose work at EPA?

my bet is next to none.


3 posted on 11/30/2012 12:28:55 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is just another version of "Cash for Clunkheads."

Just like CFC, the goal is to destroy as many perfectly serviceable used vehicles as possible and force people to bury themselves in debt to buy new vehicles from Government Motors.

4 posted on 11/30/2012 12:28:57 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Damn EPA. How about getting out of the way and letting the consumers and auto makers decide what kinds of fuel consumers want.

Up until a year or so ago one gas satiation in my area sold ethanol free gas. Always used that for lawnmowers, etc.


5 posted on 11/30/2012 12:30:29 PM PST by matt04
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To: NormsRevenge
A friend of mine runs the local Chrysler store. After drive-ability problems with several cars he bought a kit to test actual gas/alcohol ratio. He found that a lot of the fuel has way more alcohol than advertised.
6 posted on 11/30/2012 12:32:29 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Flex-Fool


7 posted on 11/30/2012 12:32:33 PM PST by ILS21R (Everything... IS... a conspiracy)
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To: BenLurkin

anything the EPA or CARB approves of is ‘suspect’ in my book.

many Californians remember MTBE and that fiasco.. and formulated boutique fuel requirements is an ongoing joke out here with built-in price gouging..

Corn based Ethanol , maybe it’s why so many move North, corn smell and all. who knows?

This nation is doomed to governance as a labful of guinea pigs of one sort or another.


8 posted on 11/30/2012 12:32:46 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge

10% Ethanol was a dump stupid crappy idea. So, true to form, the liberals strengthen a stupid, non-working law and make it worse.


9 posted on 11/30/2012 12:41:28 PM PST by I want the USA back (Liberals always demand a strengthening of liberal laws that don't work.)
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To: NormsRevenge; zot; BenLurkin

Yep, another way to destroy the engines of any pre-2011 car so that we all have to buy new cars that we can’t aford. Also to raise the cost of used cars by destroying those that could have been traded in. And the UAW will have its jobs, unles we buy from non-unionized car companies.


10 posted on 11/30/2012 12:55:23 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: All

Will this affect diesel engines?


11 posted on 11/30/2012 12:56:53 PM PST by I_Publius
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To: NormsRevenge

Gotta gethca some E-Zorb. It will address the moisture problem with ethanol in gasoline.


12 posted on 11/30/2012 12:56:59 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: NormsRevenge

Gotta gethca some E-Zorb. It will address the moisture problem with ethanol in gasoline. Amazon has it.


13 posted on 11/30/2012 12:57:43 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Does a degree in social engineering count?


14 posted on 11/30/2012 1:02:43 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: NormsRevenge
New E15 Gasoline May Damage Vehicles and Cause Consumer Confusion
Shouldn't that read - New E15 Gasoline May Cause Consumer Confusion and Damage Vehicles.
15 posted on 11/30/2012 1:03:39 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: NormsRevenge

When in Europe the past couple of years, the Avis people there just about begged us not to use E-10 in the rebtal vehicles. Now that i see it shouldn’t be used in the lawnmower, I think I know now why my weed whacker gas lines disintegrated.


16 posted on 11/30/2012 1:08:03 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Who we elect is not as important as who they bring in with them.)
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To: NormsRevenge

obama wants to destroy cars, just like he wants to destroy the weak with obamacare and the middle class with taxes.

Everything he does destroys something.


17 posted on 11/30/2012 1:29:30 PM PST by gotribe
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To: gotribe

all part of their plan. break us down and build us into what they want, which is a third world country.


18 posted on 11/30/2012 1:39:23 PM PST by I_Publius
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To: I_Publius
E diesel is a blend of standard No. 2 diesel fuel containing up to 15% ethanol and a proprietary additive to maintain blend stability and certain fuel properties, which may comprise from 0.2% to 5.0% of the blend. Currently, E diesel fuels are considered experimental and can be used legally in off-road applications. Special permission must be obtained from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for on-road use.
Tests have shown that E diesel blends may reduce certain components of exhaust emissions compared to regular No. 2 diesel, especially particulate matter. The ethanol in E diesel blends is also a domestic renewable resource. The use of greater volumes of ethanol reduces crude oil imports and results in lower contributions to greenhouse gases.
E diesel is made by splash blending of conventional diesel, fuel-grade ethanol, and additives. No special mixing protocol or temperature control is required.

Link
19 posted on 11/30/2012 1:40:49 PM PST by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: I_Publius

I wouldn’t advise putting any type of gasoline in a diesel engine.


20 posted on 11/30/2012 1:46:42 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: NormsRevenge

Corn is for eating not running cars. We have a 100% proven and ample USA resource in CNG and dual fuel vehicles are available but of course only to fleet owners or individuals who want to convert their own cars.

Only a government 100% bent on destroying us would force an increase of a food source in our fuel supply when we don’t need an ounce of it.

There is NO energy shortage and there is no need to import a single barrel of oil from rag heads except we have a government that wants high oil prices to keep the sand monkeys happy for a little more time.


21 posted on 11/30/2012 1:47:06 PM PST by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: NormsRevenge
whats the over/under date of the EPA getting an unpleasant surprise package after the first cars engines get ruined???
22 posted on 11/30/2012 3:18:16 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: GreyFriar

I wonder if this will be marked on the pumps, and whether some gasoline brands can refuse it or offer alternatives.


23 posted on 11/30/2012 4:58:35 PM PST by zot
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To: NormsRevenge

I have a Chainsaw, Weedeater, Lawnmower and Motorcycle that are currently on the Ethanol disabled list.

That is the short list... I drive a Diesel so I am still mobile.

TT


24 posted on 11/30/2012 5:30:02 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: TexasTransplant

It’s hard to get pure gas any more. There are a few out of the way stations that have it. A lot of the pumps will say “Up to 10% Ethanol” or “Up to 15% Ethanol.”


25 posted on 11/30/2012 8:18:04 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: scrabblehack

Good grief! Hope our reps look at this. All we need after higher taxes, and forced down our throat taxes of Obamacare are vehicles that won’t run and not warrantied.
I find it interesting that 2012 GM cars will handle the 15% ethanol. Gee..what a coincidence.


26 posted on 12/01/2012 6:36:56 AM PST by alamogal
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To: moose07

That’s along the line to what I was looking for...thanks.


27 posted on 12/01/2012 8:37:45 AM PST by I_Publius
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To: moose07

That’s along the line to what I was looking for...thanks.


28 posted on 12/01/2012 8:37:53 AM PST by I_Publius
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