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Fewer Babies Born is Bad News for America
Townhall.com ^ | November 30, 2012 | Linda Chavez

Posted on 11/30/2012 12:29:35 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

I don’t take advice from a pseudo conservative named Chavez.


41 posted on 11/30/2012 4:55:23 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Cheerio

We can only hope.


42 posted on 11/30/2012 4:57:35 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: SamuraiScot

EXCEPT for the illegals. Our dear government will always find an excuse to let more in.


43 posted on 11/30/2012 5:01:20 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Kaslin

Linda Chavez is such a disappointment. Like Colin Powell, she was promoted during Reagan in the belief she was a race-blind true conservative. And like Powell, she turned out to be a race-obsessed RINO.


44 posted on 11/30/2012 5:12:08 PM PST by montag813
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To: NVDave
That is not the way it is in good marriages. I know that these injustices are widespread (from what I read), but I tell you truly that in my circle of family and friends, this divorce/exploit-the-men thing is literally unthinkable.

I know it's not much consolation to people who have been in bad marriages to say this, but bruising, life-wrecking divorces are not the norm even now. From where I stand --- from what I can see (maybe this is a "subculture," but it's a major subculture) ---I see faithful husbands and wives, faithful to each other and to our children, and to God to Whom our vows are paid.

45 posted on 11/30/2012 6:56:48 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (C'est la vie.)
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To: rmlew
I have never known Linda Chavez to be a racial activist. Her last contact with the AFT (Teachers' Union) was almost 30 years ago ---- and she left them for reasons of political/moral divergence: even 30 years ago she couldn't stomach the radical Left direction they were going in.

And she's not hysterical.

You can certainly criticize Linda Chavez on policies, and do so with facts; but the attempt to encapsulate her character with a few broadly insulting phrases is, I think, poorly directed.

46 posted on 11/30/2012 7:07:48 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (C'est la vie.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Chavez plays the race card, calling all those who wish to reduce illegal immigration racist. She calls those of us who want to reduce absolute immigration Malthusiasts, racist and nativist. She is a liberal and race baiter. She’s no conservative. She falls between neoconservatives like Irving Kristol and neoliberals like Dan Patrik Moynihan.


47 posted on 11/30/2012 8:35:19 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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48 posted on 11/30/2012 8:38:29 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It’s also a generational thing.

I’m talking specifically about the situation facing young males today - in the age bracket (say, 18 to 30) where they’d want to marry and start a family.

Women in that age bracket are, in the majority, some of the most self-entitled brats and solipsists I’ve ever met. About one third of them are overweight, about one eighth of them border on morbid obesity. They’re loud, obnoxious, ready to complain and fight at the drop of a hat, and many of them think that men are little more than a wallet on legs.

My advice to young men today is to not get married, period, full stop. If they find the girl of their dreams who they can get to know very well and discover everything about her attitudes towards money, work, parenting, etc - and they think she’s not a loon, well then perhaps make an exception to the rule.

But the consequences of choosing poorly are now so high for men that failure to choose correctly is no longer an option. Wages for young men have stagnated, and with the costs of tuition, housing, cars, etc - a young man simply cannot afford to go through even a relatively civil divorce. I’m not talking the crazy-woman divorces here, I’m talking of a normal divorce with normal outcomes. They’re financially crushing for most men.

Older people here on FR who associate only with conservative Christians need to get out more. They’re living in a small and shrinking community in the US. Go take a walkabout on either coast of the US, where the majority of the population lives, and you’ll see that I’m not offering bad advice to young men.

I should add that I’m happily married for a long time to only one girl. And she largely agrees with me and is flabbergasted at some of the venal, abusive and irrational behavior by young women. She would like it if I were not offering the advice I am to young men, but she understands why I am offering said advice to young men. She sees the same situation I do.


49 posted on 11/30/2012 8:44:02 PM PST by NVDave
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To: kabar
Kabar,
You must learn the art of doublethink and correct thoughts. Posting these hate facts will only cause the honorable commissar Chavez denounce you as a nativist or racist. Surely you know that there is no historical America, only some ill defined and ever changing principles, that our Founders thought whatever approved historians say they thought, that humans are completely flexible and replaceable. Any deviation is heresy.
50 posted on 11/30/2012 8:48:13 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew

Yeah, I know. There is a pony in there somewhere.


51 posted on 11/30/2012 9:08:04 PM PST by kabar
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To: tumblindice

I think you need to take your blinders off. I’ve read all of Mark Steyn’s books as well and I’m a big fan of his.

But there is one key distinction. Muslim immigration is not equivalent to Hispanic immigration in one respect — most Hispanics eventually come to love America, and to fight and die for America. That is not happening with Muslim immigrants to America and with Muslim immigrants to the EU countries.

Yeah, our politicians suck and give away freebies to immigrants, encouraging more to come here. Not good. But I don’t think that by 2040 the USA, with it’s significant Hispanic population, is doomed like Europe, with its Muslim population. Hispanics also don’t riot like the Muslims do in Paris.


52 posted on 12/01/2012 12:11:18 AM PST by tom h
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To: rmlew
"Chavez plays the race card, calling all those who wish to reduce illegal immigration racist."

Can you give me a quote or link on that? You're right, that really is race-baiting if she's doing that.

53 posted on 12/01/2012 7:26:02 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of information.)
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To: tom h

Yes, a sure sign of decline, decay, and ultimately fall, when grandparents are outnumbering grandchildren. This has been going on in Europe for decades. Native European populations soon to be outnumbered by non-European immigrant groups, primarily muslim.


54 posted on 12/03/2012 7:33:26 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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