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Congress should dive headlong off fiscal cliff
The Daily Caller ^ | 11/30/2012 | Tucker Carlson, Neil Patel

Posted on 11/30/2012 1:34:48 PM PST by GVnana

Everyone in Washington fears the fiscal cliff. The White House has no interest in going over. Democrats understand they’ll never have more power than they do now. Delaying a budget deal until after January means getting less of what they want.

Republican leaders, meanwhile, live in fear of another 1995 government shutdown. When two sides fail to reach a deal, the media blame Republicans. That’s the lesson Republicans learned 17 years ago. They shudder imagining the headlines if negotiations were to break down next month: “Norquist-controlled GOP forces America off cliff.” Nothing terrifies them more than that. They’ll do anything to avoid it, as Obama knows well. (Hence his advantage.)

The business community fears the cliff too. Federal contractors stand to lose millions if budget cuts take effect. And nobody wants to see unemployment rise or the economy fall back into recession, both of which would likely happen if Republicans and Democrats can’t make a deal.

So there’s a lot to worry about with the fiscal cliff. Congress should leap off anyway. At a full run. Face first. Yes, it’s a scary prospect. But not as scary as the alternatives.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/30/tucker-carlson-and-neil-patel-congress-should-dive-headlong-off-fiscal-cliff/#ixzz2DkAlbgLN

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It's starting to look like a unanimous chorus from the new media...
1 posted on 11/30/2012 1:34:57 PM PST by GVnana
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2 posted on 11/30/2012 1:36:53 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: musicman

Shut it down.


3 posted on 11/30/2012 1:38:23 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: GVnana

While conservative legislators are busily pointing out what Obama budgets really are the new media should start blasting away at the new EPA regs and the effects of the Demo-coms energy policys To pick up some ideas checkout
http://www.theusmat.com/


4 posted on 11/30/2012 1:41:43 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: GVnana

THE ELITE MEDIA WILL BLAME THE REPUBLICANS UNLESS THE REPUBLICANS GIVES THE DEOMOCRATS EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANT AND GIVE NOTHING IN RETURN!!!!!

THE ELITE MEDIA WILL THEN SAY THAT THE REPUBLICANS CAVED ON SPENDING CUTS AND NOW WE ARE DOOMED BECAUSE OF THEIR RAISING TAXES!!!

GET OVER IT. IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT IS DONE. THE REP[UBLICANS WILL BE BLAMED AND BE HELD REPSONSIBLE FOR ANY AND ALL OUTCOMES!!!!!


5 posted on 11/30/2012 1:48:54 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: GVnana; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; SeekAndFind; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; ...
First, consider how we got here. The fiscal cliff is a creation of the Budget Control Act of 2011, one of the most remarkably one-sided deals ever cut in Washington. Discretionary spending represents only 35 percent of the federal budget, yet the agreement calls exclusively for cuts to discretionary programs, half in the defense sector. Entitlements, the undisputed drivers of the budget crisis, remain untouched.
For the Obama campaign, the deal was a godsend. What might have been a vigorous debate over government’s growth all but disappeared until after the election. Obama was free to spend a full year attacking Romney as a handmaiden to the rich. Congressional Republicans had virtually nothing to say.
You’d think the people responsible for signing off on a deal like this would have fled to Paraguay in shame. But no. They’re still on Capitol Hill, cowering and outmaneuvered by their counterparts at the White House.
In a normal year, Republicans might be able to negotiate a deal to keep the current top tax rates in place and shift some of the cuts slated for defense to entitlements and wasteful discretionary programs. (Sayonara, Obama phone.) This is not a normal year. Republican leadership isn’t just weak in this negotiation; it’s submissive. This is Fifty Shades of Grey, the Congressional edition. Leaping off the cliff is probably the best deal Republicans are capable of getting.”

Idiot congressional Republicans gave Obama a loaded weapon to use against them with this Act that Bohner rammed though the house after a deal with O, Reid and Pelosi.

If Bohner and McConnell are not replaced then Republicans deserve everything they get.

6 posted on 11/30/2012 1:49:22 PM PST by sickoflibs (Has Bohner caved to Obama again yet?)
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To: GVnana

Either way the Republicans are screwed politically. Americans are planning to lay the blame for any repercussions on them. So, at least make it count. Just tell them those tax cuts were from the eeeeeevviiiillll Bush Administration. The sheep should be thrillef to be rid of them. But someone in the “media” will have to direct them to be happy.


7 posted on 11/30/2012 1:53:40 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: sickoflibs

” If Bohner and McConnell are not replaced then Republicans deserve everything they get. “

Unfortunately, you and I will be the recipients of their incompetence.


8 posted on 11/30/2012 2:00:24 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: sickoflibs
If Bohner and McConnell are not replaced then Republicans deserve everything they get.

I would advise every Republican in this nation to vacate their Republican registration if this comes to pass.

We need to make that known up front too. Then when it happens, the RNC will know exactly why.

With 2% of the national registrations in March, perhaps the ears of the Republican party will perk up a little.

9 posted on 11/30/2012 2:07:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: GVnana

I couldn’t agree more. Better to take the pain and blame now than to go into national bankruptcy. This spending must be stopped in its tracks. And this is the best way to do it. Otherwise we will just be like the frog in the boiling water who will realize too late it can’t crawl out. We are that frog.


10 posted on 11/30/2012 2:38:26 PM PST by RichardW
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To: GVnana
Everyone in Washington fears the fiscal cliff. The White House has no interest in going over.

Don't kid yourself. Its exactly what they want to happen. (See Cloward-Piven) Financial chaos will bring out the "Government Save Us" calls and the Marxists will jump right in all the while blaming the Republicans 'cause they wouldn't cooperate.

11 posted on 11/30/2012 2:38:34 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: GVnana
The GOP needs to make a counter proposqal to the ridiculus opening Obama position:

Tax the rich for cost cuts now.

Entitlement reform now.

No cuts--no taxes!

12 posted on 11/30/2012 2:57:02 PM PST by Pietro
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To: dirtymac

Then Boner should just announce that 0bama will get his way on everything HE wants and HE’LL own it. Unfortunately, this will trigger MORE small business UNCERTAINTY on top of the OBAMACARE UNCERTAINTY which is exactly what 0bama is striving for so as to make his Cloward-Piven dream come true of getting even MORE people on the government dole for MORE dependency so 0bama can proclaim himself president for MORE than just four MORE years.


13 posted on 11/30/2012 3:17:33 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

No! just on power plants, run by unions and used by everyone alike. very visible and obvious. and anywy I should have used a sarcasm tag. I am very sarcastic all of the time


14 posted on 11/30/2012 3:23:44 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: Pietro

FR has some math experts.. What is the total revenue generated by 0bama’s ‘tax hit on the rich’ and how much does it offset the national debt? I know it’s barely a dent, if even a scratch.


15 posted on 11/30/2012 3:34:35 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: GVnana
Propose a tax rate of 100% on all income over $1,000,000 per year and then stand back and watch the rats argue against it because of the damage it will do.
16 posted on 11/30/2012 3:45:21 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: stephenjohnbanker
They have managed to back themselves into a corner where whatever the outcome the fault will be theirs. Good work idiots! You lose an election twice, Romney then has lunch with the fraud and chief and now you have made yourselves irrelevant and the laughing stock. Third party where are you Im ready to come aboard
17 posted on 11/30/2012 3:47:12 PM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: GVnana

The Republicans should not fear at all. The mid-term elections are close to two years away, and that is a very long time in politics.

Remember how, after Gulf War I, H.W. Bush was in the polling stratosphere. Ridiculously high approval ratings. But in a short period of time he lost his reelection.

The public is fickle. If the Republicans go all in right now and refuse to play along with the Democrats, they will indeed feel the heat for a month or two. But then the heat will shift and intensify on the Democrats, big time.

The 47%, the unions, Wall Street, etc., will be screaming at the Democrats to “do something”, and from that point, the Republicans will be in the cat bird seat.


18 posted on 11/30/2012 3:57:23 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: GVnana
That's why all, and I mean all, of the Repubs need to be talking in unison to the "media" that the Dems need to come up with an acceptable plan for the country. Push it all on Obama. Then nit-pick apart anything the Dems actually come up with and blame them for the delay (smoke-and-mirrors, etc.).

Ahhh, what am I saying. The Repubs will fold like yesterday's laundry.

19 posted on 11/30/2012 3:57:23 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: GVnana
To paraphrase Bristol Palin:

"GOP, you're gonna get blamed anyway so you might as well dance."

20 posted on 11/30/2012 4:05:27 PM PST by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: musicman

We need to go over Obama’s Fiscal Cliff to see what permanent damage it does to Americans.

The majority of voters want to go over Obama’s Fiscal Cliff, and Obama wants financial Revenge.

It is a guaranteed lose-lose BiPartisan Compromise.

FORWARD !


21 posted on 11/30/2012 7:44:50 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Raising taxes on the “rich” is estimated by the CBO to bring in somewhere between $80B and $100B per year. The deficit next year is currently projected to be about $1300B. As Greta keeps saying, that runs the government for 7 to 10 days.

Conclusion: raising taxes on the “rich” is not about reducing the deficit, it is about class warfare.

Note - Geithner’s proposal to the Republican leadership was to raise taxes on the rich by $160B per year, but then to increasing spending by over $100B for “stimulus” and the extension of unemployment payments. I saw that on Fox News, but nowhere in the MSM.


22 posted on 11/30/2012 8:58:04 PM PST by Mack the knife
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To: Mack the knife

Class warfare and to slowly topple small businesses one after another so no one directly correlates it to the Democrat’s policies. Killing America without triggering revolt takes time.


23 posted on 11/30/2012 11:00:17 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Paladin2

I agree - and my paycheck is one of those that would stop until they sorted it out.


24 posted on 12/01/2012 3:42:57 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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