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Huntsman: GOP Should Avoid Social, 'Fringe' Issues (angling for sec of state job?)
The ^ | - 11/30/12 09:54 ET | By Justin Sink

Posted on 11/30/2012 2:16:36 PM PST by drewh

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To: driftless2

Try to avoid saying stupid things like “self-deportation.” That’s code for the Mexican illegals. Romney dug himself a hole right then and there and probably lost the election trying to get to the right of Perry.

This whole issue is so easily handled if we just had a guest worker program where people could come and go as necessary. These are the people work the produce fields, restaurants, yard work and all the crap work Americans won’t do.

61 posted on 12/02/2012 1:25:24 PM PST by RichardW
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To: RichardW

we have a work visa system

we have existing methods of gaining legal citizenship and legal residency

These people simply refuse to obey the law.

62 posted on 12/02/2012 1:27:15 PM PST by GeronL (
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To: Boogieman

That’s a tougher one. But it should and will have to be handled through the courts since it is now embedded in law per the Supreme Court. This why it is VITAL AND ESSENTIAL to get Republicans elected. Now we have Obozo in there for another four years and you can be sure that all of his appointments will be flaming liberals. Abortion probably won’t be argued for another 100 years at this rate.

Republicans prove every election they are truly the “stupid party.”

63 posted on 12/02/2012 1:29:10 PM PST by RichardW
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To: drewh
Fringe issues? Like teleportation, spontaneous human combustion, and parallel universes?

64 posted on 12/02/2012 1:31:05 PM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: GeronL

And they will continue to do so just as water seeks its own level. Hard to believe but there is almost no new illegal immigration into the U.S. recently and a marked reduction of illegal mother’s new born since our economy has gone into the toilet under Obama. Mexico is on fire with a faster GDP than Obozo’s economy and likely to remain so. We are more likely than not going into another deep recession next year due to his Marxist policies.

65 posted on 12/02/2012 1:32:46 PM PST by RichardW
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To: OKRA2012
History shows that the Republican Party only loses elections when we do not have a solid social conservative at the top of the ticket, and only wins elections when there is a Bush or Nixon on the ticket.

Or it could be the other way around: that Republicans nominate social conservatives when the party is likely to win.

In any case, Nixon wasn't quite a social conservative in today's sense, nor was Bush I. It's also not clear that Dole was that different from Nixon or Bush I on social issues: he just happened to lose.

I guess if Democrats oblige us by nominating a McGovern or a Dukakis, the Republican candidate can't help but look like a social conservative, but one can't count on them doing that every time.

That's not to say that Huntsman is right and the GOP ought to drop the social issues, but I'm not sure that a lot of the things we tell ourselves are actually true -- especially in today's very different America.

66 posted on 12/02/2012 1:43:13 PM PST by x
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Very sensible and logical post. We need to stop with this circular firing squad mindlessness and stick to economic issues and follow the constitution. On those issues we are solid ground.

This election should have been a walk over to winning. The economy was horrible. We had a Marxist ideologue in the WH and we lost????? That really takes some skill to pull off the impossible even with a lockstep mainstream media pulling Obama’s wagon.

How could anyone with half a brain vote against a Republican who sticks to the economy and rails against national bankruptcy which we will sure have at the rate we are going? If the voting public is this stupid then we are surely doomed as a republic and deserve what we will reap.

67 posted on 12/02/2012 2:09:35 PM PST by RichardW
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To: RichardW
That presumes that a sizable percentage of Hispanics, especially those of Mexican descent, even knew Romney said those words. I seriously doubt many of them did. To get a lot of Hispanic votes, the Republicans would almost have to be to the left of Obama on immigration. Even then I don't if it would work if they didn't offer the freebies the Dems do. Remember when Reagan legalized 3 million illegals in the eighties, the Pubbies received a smaller percentage of the Hispanic vote in the next election than they did in the previous.

Some people are always saying that if Republicans don't say the wrong things that supposedly offend all these winnable Hispanics, they'll start voting for Pubbies. I seriously doubt that. The simple fact is: many Hispanics like the idea of Big Government.

68 posted on 12/03/2012 3:37:35 AM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2

I’m just dealing with reality. We need these folks for the jobs most Americans will not do. How many Hispanics stand on the corner waiting for a hand-out?

A lot of us need to have our houses cleaned, lawns mowed and restaurants and farms need their labor. They are willing to do these jobs. So why not “legalize” them by providing a temporary work permit so they don’t have to continuously fly under the radar? We’ve had many here for decades, illegal all the time worrying about being deported. They own homes, buy autos, and contribute to the economy. Let’s stop this nuttiness. We can’t deport them, nor should we.

69 posted on 12/03/2012 12:01:10 PM PST by RichardW
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