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(Cops & Robbers Agree!) California Police Wish Gun Owners Would Just Comply with Robbers
GUNS.com ^ | 11/27/2012 | dabneybailey

Posted on 11/30/2012 2:24:58 PM PST by DogByte6RER

Nanny State Thought Police

California Police Wish Gun Owners Would Just Comply with Robbers

If a couple of thugs break into your place of business and point a gun in your face, then you would be perfectly justified in opening fire on them, right? Well, maybe not. San Jose police are giving one gun owner a stern tsk-tsk after she defended her property from a pair of armed thieves.

According to ABC Local 7 News, a pair of thieves wearing masks and hooded sweatshirts burst into a San Jose jewelry store at 10:15 a.m. on Monday. At least one of the would-be thieves was armed.

The thieves probably thought that they were going to make off with a bag full of bling, but instead they nearly caught a bullet. The store owner, who was reportedly a woman, drew a pistol and leveled it at the two would-be thieves. She fired at least one shot but did not strike either of them – it is unclear whether that was a warning shot or if she simply missed.

Either way, the bullet did its job. The two thieves quickly fled the store and made their escape in an SUV. Cops are currently looking for leads on the two suspects. According to Yahoo News, they are examining video surveillance and other tapes for clues.

In the meantime, the police are giving gun owners a piece of their mind. Albert Morales, the San Jose Police spokesman, said, "We don't recommend (drawing a gun or firing). We would have preferred that they just go ahead and comply with the request or demands of the robbers. Again they were after material items that could be replaced and again our biggest fear is that somebody would have gotten hurt, injured and possibly even died."

You know who else would have preferred that the jewelry store owner had just complied? The thieves. Who would’ve thought that cops and robbers would ever be able to agree on something?

Despite this, the police have not pressed charges against the gun owner – probably because all she did was exercise a perfectly legal Constitutional right. The police agree that it's OK to open fire, but they're just expressing how much they dislike it. That isn't a big deal, right?

The problem is that when a statement like that comes from police, the subtle implication is that there’s something inherently immoral or illegal about using a gun in self-defense. It could give people the wrong impression about firearms -- whether that’s intentional or accidental is an entirely different debate.

If Morales should be scolding anybody, it should be the pair of thieves who threatened that woman. The fact of the matter is that there's nothing wrong with using a gun in self-defense as long as you comply with the laws in your locality. The opinion of the San Jose police is simply that -- an opinion.

Why don't you weigh in with your opinion? Did the store owner do the right thing, or should people across America put up their hands and do whatever robbers say? We know that thieves could get behind that slogan, but what do you think?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; copsandrobbers; gunsandammo; leftcoast; policestate; secondamendment; thearmedcitizen
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Well at least the police and criminals can finally agree on something ... if a citizen is faced by a robber, just give up the loot.

That way the crook gets the goods, and the police department can enjoy lots of job security by opening yet another case for the detective bureau.

1 posted on 11/30/2012 2:25:13 PM PST by DogByte6RER
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More coverage of the robbery in San Jose in which an armed citizen fired back at robbers ...

“Jewelry store owner shoots at robbers in San Jose”

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/south_bay&id=8899010


2 posted on 11/30/2012 2:27:32 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

I knew there was a good reason we have cops.....thanks for the reminder!


3 posted on 11/30/2012 2:27:56 PM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Again they were after material items that could be replaced and again our biggest fear is that somebody would have gotten hurt, injured and possibly even died."

That's easy to say when they're not your "material items."

More evidence that cops are just gang-bangers with badges.

4 posted on 11/30/2012 2:27:59 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: DogByte6RER
This just reduces the police to the level of Security Officers where there is only a “Observe and Report” action. The police should realize that they no longer can “protect and Serve”. You as a citizen are responsible for yourself until the arrival of the authorities.
5 posted on 11/30/2012 2:30:42 PM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: DogByte6RER

A genuine cop would never say that. Corrupt administrations tell the cops what to say, and being trained to obey, they comply.

In reality, the politicians want the crooks to just waltz in and take whatever they want - kind of “redistribution of wealth.”


6 posted on 11/30/2012 2:31:00 PM PST by I want the USA back (The right to defend oneself is inherent in our nature. It can't be given or taken away by government)
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To: DogByte6RER

Why should we expect the police to remain unstained by the corruption overtaking government in general?


7 posted on 11/30/2012 2:32:24 PM PST by skeeter
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To: DogByte6RER; Morgana

ugh


8 posted on 11/30/2012 2:32:24 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: DogByte6RER

” “We don’t recommend (drawing a gun or firing). We would have preferred that they just go ahead and comply with the request or demands of the robbers.”

Fine. The next time you cops come up against an armed criminal, why don’t you practice what you preach.


9 posted on 11/30/2012 2:34:45 PM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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Donate here!

It’s nearly Turkey destruction time ,again.
Let’s give Jim an early CHRISTmas and finish this thing! Eh?

10 posted on 11/30/2012 2:35:17 PM PST by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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You have to understand that San Jose's police chief is a candy-a$$ liberal. Notes from his bio:

"In 1999, Chief Moore was selected as a White House Fellow and served one year as Counsel to U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno. In 2004, Moore was awarded a Fulbright Police Research Fellowship to study police accountability at the London School of Economics and New Scotland Yard. He is a member of the Police Executive Research Forum (PERF) and the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP). "Chief Moore holds a B.A. from the University of California at Berkeley."

11 posted on 11/30/2012 2:35:56 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: DogByte6RER

Well...after all the government has decided the real business its in is redistribution of wealth....the robbers are merely the active partners.


12 posted on 11/30/2012 2:38:29 PM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Gag me. The only downside to shooting the scum is the cleanup and you are left with the liquid waste removal.


13 posted on 11/30/2012 2:39:01 PM PST by soycd
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To: DogByte6RER

Because you can trust a robber to just take material things, right? I wonder if they think victims should submit to rapists as well. Heck, its just sex.


14 posted on 11/30/2012 2:39:01 PM PST by stop_fascism (Love your country, but never trust its government - R.A. Heinlein)
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To: DogByte6RER

I realise I’m probably going to be in a minority of one here, but did anyone consider what the fact that if your aim is flawed, blasting out bullets into a busy street through the store window might possibly end in tears?


15 posted on 11/30/2012 2:39:52 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: DogByte6RER

This is a very bad message, and one that’s on track with the statism found in the UK.

Lawful citizens deserve the unimpeded right to defend themselves in any reasonable manner.


16 posted on 11/30/2012 2:43:13 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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Did the store owner do the right thing...?

No! She missed and she didn't fire enough rounds. Duh!

17 posted on 11/30/2012 2:44:38 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: DogByte6RER
The fact of the matter is that there's nothing wrong with using a gun in self-defense as long as you comply with the laws in your locality The fact of the matter is that there's nothing wrong with using a gun in self-defense as long as you comply with the laws in your locality laws be damn'd
18 posted on 11/30/2012 2:45:08 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

>> blasting out bullets into a busy street

So instead of issuing guidelines on weapons management, the citizens should be told to submit?

Don’t be a statist.


19 posted on 11/30/2012 2:46:17 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
I realise I’m probably going to be in a minority of one here

That's because this is a Conservative site.

Is the reason you think you're a minority here because you are not a Conservative?

Self defense is a God Given right, and btw, where did it say she was shooting out the storefront into the street?

20 posted on 11/30/2012 2:49:27 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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