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(Cops & Robbers Agree!) California Police Wish Gun Owners Would Just Comply with Robbers
GUNS.com ^ | 11/27/2012 | dabneybailey

Posted on 11/30/2012 2:24:58 PM PST by DogByte6RER

Nanny State Thought Police

California Police Wish Gun Owners Would Just Comply with Robbers

If a couple of thugs break into your place of business and point a gun in your face, then you would be perfectly justified in opening fire on them, right? Well, maybe not. San Jose police are giving one gun owner a stern tsk-tsk after she defended her property from a pair of armed thieves.

According to ABC Local 7 News, a pair of thieves wearing masks and hooded sweatshirts burst into a San Jose jewelry store at 10:15 a.m. on Monday. At least one of the would-be thieves was armed.

The thieves probably thought that they were going to make off with a bag full of bling, but instead they nearly caught a bullet. The store owner, who was reportedly a woman, drew a pistol and leveled it at the two would-be thieves. She fired at least one shot but did not strike either of them – it is unclear whether that was a warning shot or if she simply missed.

Either way, the bullet did its job. The two thieves quickly fled the store and made their escape in an SUV. Cops are currently looking for leads on the two suspects. According to Yahoo News, they are examining video surveillance and other tapes for clues.

In the meantime, the police are giving gun owners a piece of their mind. Albert Morales, the San Jose Police spokesman, said, "We don't recommend (drawing a gun or firing). We would have preferred that they just go ahead and comply with the request or demands of the robbers. Again they were after material items that could be replaced and again our biggest fear is that somebody would have gotten hurt, injured and possibly even died."

You know who else would have preferred that the jewelry store owner had just complied? The thieves. Who would’ve thought that cops and robbers would ever be able to agree on something?

Despite this, the police have not pressed charges against the gun owner – probably because all she did was exercise a perfectly legal Constitutional right. The police agree that it's OK to open fire, but they're just expressing how much they dislike it. That isn't a big deal, right?

The problem is that when a statement like that comes from police, the subtle implication is that there’s something inherently immoral or illegal about using a gun in self-defense. It could give people the wrong impression about firearms -- whether that’s intentional or accidental is an entirely different debate.

If Morales should be scolding anybody, it should be the pair of thieves who threatened that woman. The fact of the matter is that there's nothing wrong with using a gun in self-defense as long as you comply with the laws in your locality. The opinion of the San Jose police is simply that -- an opinion.

Why don't you weigh in with your opinion? Did the store owner do the right thing, or should people across America put up their hands and do whatever robbers say? We know that thieves could get behind that slogan, but what do you think?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; copsandrobbers; gunsandammo; leftcoast; policestate; secondamendment; thearmedcitizen
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

And what if you comply with their demands, and then they kill you anyway?

Translation from the top cop: “STOP IT!! You’re making us look bad!!!!”


21 posted on 11/30/2012 2:50:53 PM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: DogByte6RER

DogBite,

Can’t help myself, gotta boost that poster! If you have don’t want I should do that, please let me know.


22 posted on 11/30/2012 2:51:15 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: DogByte6RER

I think it’s for liability reasons the cops caution citizens against armed resistance. If the cops advocated firing upon criminals, it would be the basis for a large lawsuit.


23 posted on 11/30/2012 2:52:41 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Bernard Marx
Your post explains it all very well.

BTW, London School of Economics is famous for turning out Socialist zombies....I know it for a fact as we have one of them in the family.

24 posted on 11/30/2012 2:53:17 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

If that’s what you’re worried about as a store owner with a gun...

1. Get more range time. Lots more. Consistent shooting and firearm handling teaches confidence. You are less likely to screw up with your firearm if you are comfortable with it.

OR

2. Don’t have a gun and let the thug-of-the-month use your store as his personal ATM.

Either way, the cops really don’t care. They get the same paycheck whether you hit the bad guy or the bad guy hits you.


25 posted on 11/30/2012 2:54:00 PM PST by LadyBuck (Some day very soon, Life's little Twinkie gauge is gonna go......empty.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

I have two words for you then that should calm your fears....hollow points.


26 posted on 11/30/2012 2:54:31 PM PST by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby!)
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To: DogByte6RER

Isn’t that the way Britain does it. Victims get the raw end of the stick. Come to think about it, so do the women in the moslim world.


27 posted on 11/30/2012 2:55:03 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

The person is a store owner not an NYPD Cop.


28 posted on 11/30/2012 2:55:34 PM PST by fudimo
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To: DogByte6RER

“...our biggest fear is that somebody would have gotten hurt, injured and possibly even died.”

If the store owner had been a better shot, it could have been one of the thieves.


29 posted on 11/30/2012 2:56:10 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Democrats are evil. Republicans are stupid.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Looky here:

This ain’t nothing new or unusual. The cops in this case are just confused. I mean, the irs does this stuff every day, and good citizens don’t flash heat at them.

“Just stand still and let us fleece you, if you don’t, you’ll get shot!”

So, robbers in the street or irs agents in your cash register. What the hell is the difference?

Its easy to see why the cops would be confused.


30 posted on 11/30/2012 2:58:01 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Gene Eric

Weapons management? She was being robbed by armed robbers, which is going to make most people’s aim shaky any way. Unless you are very well trained and very accustomed to being in violent situations, I don’t think there is any way of guaranteeing that all your shots will be on target when you open fire.
Good weapons management would be to brandish it only, or only open fire when there was a direct threat to her life, not her property.

Like I say, there was a lot of potential for this whole incident to have ended in tears by recklessly blasting away in the general direction of the robbers. I’m not being ‘statist’ here, I’m just pointing out to all you gung-ho gunslingers out there that you’d better think very carefully about when you pull the trigger. Except you won’t, because your mind will be occupied by other things at that particular moment, which is where the potential danger is...


31 posted on 11/30/2012 2:58:55 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
but did anyone consider what the fact that if your aim is flawed, blasting out bullets into a busy street through the store window might possibly end in tears?

Clearly a question posed by someone who knows nothing about carrying a gun.

In other words it is a very stupid question.

Very, VERY stupid.

32 posted on 11/30/2012 2:59:39 PM PST by Eaker ( If a soldier demands that you carry his gear for a mile, carry it two miles.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

YOu’re right, only cops and government officials are quailified to carry and use guns.

YOu’re on the wrong site, besides Conservative, yes we’re gun ho....and trained better than most of your government overlords.


33 posted on 11/30/2012 3:03:39 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: 50mm

bump


34 posted on 11/30/2012 3:04:23 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: DogByte6RER

I blame part of it on the advent of no-knock “dynamic entry” tactics. When people exercise their right to keep and bear arms in defense of their homes and families, kicking someone’s door down in the middle of the night becomes a high-risk proposition.


35 posted on 11/30/2012 3:04:40 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

If the store owner was a better shot she should get a commission check.


In California in 2009, it cost an average of $47,102 a year to incarcerate an inmate in state prison. From 2001 to 2009, the average annual cost increased by about $19,500.[92]


36 posted on 11/30/2012 3:04:58 PM PST by fudimo
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Good weapons management would be to brandish it

Another stupid statement.

I’m just pointing out to all you gung-ho gunslingers out there that you’d better think very carefully about when you pull the trigger.

As if we gun owners haven't thought of that. If you knew a single damn thing about guns or had actually ever held one in your hand you would not have ever made such an overwhelming stupid STUPID statement.

Did I mention that everything you have posted on this thread is stupid?

37 posted on 11/30/2012 3:05:05 PM PST by Eaker ( If a soldier demands that you carry his gear for a mile, carry it two miles.)
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To: DogByte6RER

http://www.amazon.com/Victim-Other-Murder-Gary-Kinder/dp/0871137356

A must read book; never submit.


38 posted on 11/30/2012 3:05:18 PM PST by mountaineer1997
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Have you ever actually fired a real gun, in the real world, in real life?

Have you ever even touched a real gun, in the real world, in real life?

Go back to your computer strategy games ... let the adults deal with reality.

39 posted on 11/30/2012 3:07:19 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Eaker

You reckon?


40 posted on 11/30/2012 3:07:19 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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