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Krauthammer To Bill Kristol: You're "Turning Into A Socialist"
RealClearPolitics ^ | November 30, 2012 | RealClearPolitics

Posted on 11/30/2012 4:56:07 PM PST by i88schwartz

Syndicated columnist and FOX News contributor Charles Krauthammer, in his trademark deadpan way, tells Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol he is turning into a socialist.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billkristol; charleskrauthammer
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1 posted on 11/30/2012 4:56:12 PM PST by i88schwartz
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To: i88schwartz

They both are!


2 posted on 11/30/2012 4:57:35 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: Randy Larsen
socialism-illustrated-300x201-1
3 posted on 11/30/2012 4:58:38 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Randy Larsen

Understatement of the decade!


4 posted on 11/30/2012 4:58:38 PM PST by stormhill
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To: Randy Larsen

Yes, right on!


5 posted on 11/30/2012 5:00:56 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: i88schwartz

Takes one to know one.


6 posted on 11/30/2012 5:01:05 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: i88schwartz

And Kristol laughed and admitted it.

But did you hear what K said about Boener? That was mortifying.


7 posted on 11/30/2012 5:01:45 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

And Kristol laughed and admitted it.

>>>But did you hear what K said about Boener? That was mortifying.

What did he say?


8 posted on 11/30/2012 5:03:19 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: i88schwartz

I agree —I don’t think Kristol is really one of us, and I don’t think he likes the Tea Party.


9 posted on 11/30/2012 5:03:55 PM PST by gaijin
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To: i88schwartz

Krauthammer lost all credibility when he became an apologist for John Roberts and his Obamacare ruling.


10 posted on 11/30/2012 5:04:15 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Ken H

CK is a Dem isn’t he ? He was Mondale’s speechwriter


11 posted on 11/30/2012 5:10:16 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: i88schwartz

Kristol—just another fauxcon. Always has been, always will be.


12 posted on 11/30/2012 5:10:34 PM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: SharpRightTurn; All

Yep, he goes way back blurring Conservatism so folks don’t know what the heck it stands for, as he passes himself off as our voice.

I’ve more or less despised the guy for several decades now. Kristol

As for Krauthammer, he’s not one of us either, but he is far more capable of stringing a decent thought together and sounding like one of us from time to time. Kristol, not so much.

They both take slots that a really good Conservative should be positioned in. And in this manner, they actually silence our voices. It’s a real shame.


13 posted on 11/30/2012 5:17:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

I hated Bill Kristol in “When Harry Met Sally”.

Thanks i88schwartz.


14 posted on 11/30/2012 5:20:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: gorush
This is a pretty good Socialism-Illustrated view as well, you-tube style (Denish D'Sousa).
15 posted on 11/30/2012 5:26:05 PM PST by C210N (In favor of private rights and public happiness)
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To: Randy Larsen

Exactly.

They’re both “neo-conservatives.”

While the left likes to hurl around the term “neo-con” very loosely, what they don’t know and don’t admit is that there are real neo-conservatives, and what they really are.

Neo-conservatives are left-wing American Jews who figured out in the early 70’s that their Democratic party buddies are soft on Israel and really don’t like Jews. So these red diaper Jews cuddled up to the Republican party on the subject of Israel.

This has produced strange bedfellows such as Kristol for years - Kristol is no conservative on domestic issues, and certainly not on domestic social issues. Come to think of it, neo-conservatives don’t give a rat’s ass is the US goes broke on military mis-adventures in the middle east trying to triangulate the defense of Israel.

It’s long since past time for the Republican party to eject these clowns and send them packing and get down to what conservatives need to address in the US today - cutting the federal budget, defending the value of the dollar, getting fiscal and monetary policies under control.

If Jews want to defend Israel, then they can pony up the money to do it themselves. It isn’t the problem of the US taxpayer.


16 posted on 11/30/2012 5:27:29 PM PST by NVDave
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To: i88schwartz

Come on folks, think about it. What does Obama mean when he says he doesn’t want to raise taxes on the middle class? It means he doesn’t want to raise taxes on government employees. Who here thinks Obama gives a rat’s behind about an auto repair business or a florist or a C-Store? He doesn’t. Raising taxes on the middle class to him means that a big block of Democrat voters will be going into the 2014 with less money, and they’ll have the Democrats to thank. Don’t even talk to Obama. It’s time his side took a sock in the mouth for voting so stupid. And yes, I’m middle class.


17 posted on 11/30/2012 5:28:03 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ncalburt

I don’t think so.


18 posted on 11/30/2012 5:28:45 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: gaijin
I don’t think Kristol is really one of us, and I don’t think he likes the Tea Party.

I don't think Krauthammer likes the Tea Party, either.

In fact, I think everybody in Washington hates the Tea Party.

That's fair. I hate them, too.

19 posted on 11/30/2012 5:29:53 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: DoughtyOne
->As for Krauthammer, he’s not one of us either, but he is f-ar more capable of stringing a decent thought together and sounding like one of us from time to time. Kristol, not so much.

They both take slots that a really good Conservative should be positioned in. And in this manner, they actually silence our voices. It’s a real shame.

You are so right. Thanks for saying this. I cannot watch Kristol and CK any longer. They really have misrepresented their intentions. CK is the GOP-e sneaky guy out front, to pull the people the way they want; so clever.

20 posted on 11/30/2012 5:30:26 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: blueunicorn6

You make a great point but who else would they vote for if Obama made them pay higher taxes. They won’t vote republican so Obama knows he has them trapped into voting dem too!


21 posted on 11/30/2012 5:38:58 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: Randy Larsen
No, Kraut strikes me as more of an elitist snot.
22 posted on 11/30/2012 5:45:06 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: i88schwartz

I always though he was a fag and a Commie.


23 posted on 11/30/2012 5:47:17 PM PST by blam
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To: gorush

Hilarious!

Saved for future emails to “liberal” friends


24 posted on 11/30/2012 5:47:26 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Elections do have consequences, young people of America)
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To: i88schwartz

Krauthammer is one of the most intelligent commentators out there. I don’t agree with some of his more libertarian positions, and I bet that in a one-on-one debate I could corner him on some of those points. But give him credit: he has some of the best though-out assessments of Obama, and he is willing to come out and make these public. The left hates him, which is a good sign that he is hitting home.

Some of the posters here are far too wild in attacking imperfections in allies. You take support where you can find it. Few public figures are perfect, after all.


25 posted on 11/30/2012 5:47:57 PM PST by docbnj
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To: NVDave

You forgot a rather important one:

WE MAKE THINGS IN AMERICA.


26 posted on 11/30/2012 5:48:04 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Randy Larsen

Nope. They can stay home. They can not contribute to the Democrat party. We don’t have to turn them all into Republicans. We just have to show once, just once, that there’s a cost for voting Democrat. Take her over the cliff! Happy landings SEIU!


27 posted on 11/30/2012 5:48:19 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Ken H

He, also, said if anyone doesn’t approve of the TSA they should stay home. FUKraut


28 posted on 11/30/2012 5:48:41 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Christie at the beach

All too often he is. It’s a real shame.

I’m not sure what selection process is employed to pick these talking heads, but I wish Fox would consult with some true Conservatives, to get someone that will provide some real Conservative viewpoints. I am talking about the exact format those two are involved in though.

There are actually some fairly good people on Fox at other times. Sadly, Fox passes too many people off as the Conservative voice, when they really aren’t.

I don’t think it’s by design (and of course I could be wrong), but I don’t think the management truly understands the Conservative message enough to know they’re blowing it big-time.


29 posted on 11/30/2012 5:53:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: okie01

Yes, I remember Krauthammer being downright appalled at the “town hall protests,” basically saying how undignified it was and how it would backfire on the Republicans. Ditto for the “tea party.”

Krauthammer can offer some interesting insight sometimes on certain issues, but when it comes to grassroots/populism/mid-America, he has a massive blind-spot. I’m also reminded of when Palin made her famous “death panel” Facebook posting, and Krauthammer condescendingly said she should ‘leave the room’... and then he himself pretty much repeated all the anti-Obamacare points she had just made in her post!


30 posted on 11/30/2012 5:54:25 PM PST by greene66
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To: okie01

Why do you hate the Tea Party?


31 posted on 11/30/2012 5:57:49 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: greene66

When you boil it all down, it’s not so much left vs right, nor liberal vs conservative, nor even Democrat vs Republican, it’s Washington vs the rest of us.


32 posted on 11/30/2012 5:59:32 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: docbnj

Good post. Rational, not emotional.


33 posted on 11/30/2012 6:00:26 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Mortrey
Why do you hate the Tea Party?

You misread my comment. I hate "them" is everybody in Washington, too.

34 posted on 11/30/2012 6:05:33 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: EEGator; docbnj

The complacent don’t have ‘fire in the belly’.


35 posted on 11/30/2012 6:07:05 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: greene66
Krauthammer condescendingly said she should ‘leave the room’... and then he himself pretty much repeated all the anti-Obamacare points she had just made in her post!

A condesending pr*ck, who displays a 'there is no one smarter than me' attitude and then steals from them.

36 posted on 11/30/2012 6:13:02 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: okie01
In fact, I think everybody in Washington hates the Tea Party. That's fair. I hate them, too.

Do you hate everybody in Washington OR the Tea Party?
38 posted on 11/30/2012 6:17:53 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: i88schwartz; All

Kinda precious that Kraut, who is Amnesty Liberal (and Liberal on some other things), is calling Bill Kristol a “Socialist”

Can’t Fox News hire some Real Conservative talking heads?


39 posted on 11/30/2012 6:19:28 PM PST by SeminoleCounty
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To: okie01
"...nor even Democrat vs Republican, it’s Washington vs the rest of us.

"Yes. It is the Potomac Swamp Fever that eventually grabs all of them.

With the generous compensation and ego stroking they automatically receive, they also come to realize that there are several hundred million Americans and a $20+ billion economy either working for them via taxes, or offering support commiserate to the handouts they grant, I have come to believe that few if any can survive that Potomac Swamp Fever.

I am convinced that no one in the Washington establishment wants to see the government contracted --- to get smaller. It is not in their interests even if it is to the greater good.

Unless we can control and restrain the growth of government, we are lost.

40 posted on 11/30/2012 6:21:28 PM PST by Ditto
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To: Cheerio
Do you hate everybody in Washington OR the Tea Party?

Unclear antecedant. My animus is directed toward Washington, D.C. -- not the Tea Party.

41 posted on 11/30/2012 6:21:43 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: i88schwartz

I can’t watch Fox News much anymore, largely because of the talking heads it employs. It’s time the channel sheds the usual pundits and contributors and brings in some new blood. A few real conservatives would be preferable.

However, given who owns Fox, I doubt any change will ever happen.


42 posted on 11/30/2012 6:23:08 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: i88schwartz

They are both neo-conservatives. In other words, they are old school Democrats.

They, old school Democrats, were supplanted in their party by Marxists. The old school Democrats who couldn’t put up with Marxists are now called Republicans.

Old fashioned conservative Republicans are an endangered species. There is Rand Paul, Jim Demint, Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, and that’s about it. Oh, and a few Freepers. And that is definitely it.


43 posted on 11/30/2012 6:28:50 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: docbnj
Some of the posters here are far too wild in attacking imperfections in allies.

Understatement of the year. Too many folks here spend too much ammo shooting at allies instead of the enemy.

44 posted on 11/30/2012 6:35:48 PM PST by Ditto
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To: Ditto
I am convinced that no one in the Washington establishment wants to see the government contracted --- to get smaller. It is not in their interests even if it is to the greater good.

I am convinced you are absolutely correct.

45 posted on 11/30/2012 6:37:56 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: NVDave
If Jews want to defend Israel, then they can pony up the money to do it themselves. It isn’t the problem of the US taxpayer.

I'm not a Jew, (or a Fundamentalist Christian for that matter looking for Armageddon) but I'll gladly pony up my money to defend Israel. They are the only outpost of civilization in that hell hole of a region, and I think it is important to all people who love civilization they they survive.

In a sense, Israel today is on the front line between civilization and barbarism.

Think about it.

46 posted on 11/30/2012 6:47:23 PM PST by Ditto
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To: blueunicorn6
Not just government "workers", Obama defines the middle class as all unionized (overpaid & readily controlled) labor.
He sees the historic middle class of people who actually create jobs, take risks, and make decisions, as the evil rich or at least the evil "wealthy enough".
47 posted on 11/30/2012 6:59:19 PM PST by norton
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To: greene66
Yes, I remember Krauthammer being downright appalled at the “town hall protests,” basically saying how undignified it was and how it would backfire on the Republicans. Ditto for the “tea party.”

I don't remember this. I do, however, remember reading Krauthammer's columns on how the Tea Party had brought so much energy to the GOP that it had opened up an "enthusiasm gap" over the Democrats. I also remember Krauthammer praising the fact that huge Tea Party gatherings were filled with well-behaved, informed citizens who didn't engage in violence or vandalize buildings, unlike the "Occupy" types.

I'm not sure why there's so much hostility toward Krauthammer - the fact is that he's presented the conservative cause to the American public and argued for limited government far more effectively than either of the last two GOP nominees.
48 posted on 11/30/2012 7:16:55 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: i88schwartz

Krautpusher vs. Krystal..

“No you are”.. “No you are”.. “No you are”.. “No you are”.. “No you are”..


49 posted on 11/30/2012 7:21:43 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: okie01
When you boil it all down, it’s not so much left vs right, nor liberal vs conservative, nor even Democrat vs Republican, it’s Washington vs the rest of us

Yes exactly. It is sort of a elitist east coast style thing. We need some conservatives who can put on airs, act sort of snooty and refined and preach our message but on the surface look like a DC insider. Getting on these shows is another question. Whether it makes us puke is irrelevant. Play their game and infiltrate in a sneaky less direct way.

50 posted on 11/30/2012 7:25:53 PM PST by plain talk
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