LA SINK HOLE: 3 MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS

You Tube Channel ^ | 11/29/12 | Idaho Picker

[Blogger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJieuo-PssQ&feature=g-u

[DH]

A butane well???????????????

What the hell is that?

I know there are natural gas wells but I didn’t know that there were butane refineries buried deep underground.

Wow! Slap me silly!

[Blogger]

I believe that the Bayou Corne sinkhole has enough worrisome stuff surrounding it that it needs to be watched.

[The Cajun]

I know there are natural gas wells but I didn’t know that there were butane refineries buried deep underground.

Gas storage cavern in a salt dome to be specific.
They're trying to draw it down, said it would take months.
Lots of ill informed reports and flat out enviro lies floating around on what's really going on.
I live approx 20-25 miles away as the crow flies and worked in the oil industry 30 years and I'm not really sure on what's going on except there's a salt dome collapsing next to one that is used for liquefied gas storage.
There also appears to be naturally formed shallow gas pockets around the area *perking* to the surface due to the dome collapsing, some of which contain H2S.

[editor-surveyor]

“disappointing.”

Truly!

[editor-surveyor]

I’ve always believed that storing anything in a salt dome was insane.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “Slap me silly! <<

.
Someone should!

[Blogger]

Fracking doesn’t sound all that great either.

[Blogger]

Not sure the enviros are far off base on this one. Sounds like there is a lot of high pressure gas creating a really bad situation down there. Appears that Texas Brine is getting fined by the state. Interesting info in document.

http://www.edsuite.com/proposals/proposals_280/dnr_order,_office_of_conservation_fines_texas_brine_fi_531.pdf

[Blogger]

Part of that doc:
It is further declared that Texas Brine Company LLC (1149) is specifically directed and is hereby ordered to undertake the necessary actions to address the potential danger to human life associated with the gas pressures...

[Lancey Howard]

Said well has over a million barrels of butane in it .

That's a lot of Bic lighters!

[okie01]

Fracking doesn’t sound all that great either.

There are two reasons for such an opinion.

a. Radical environmentalism

b. Ignorance

[woofie]

a sink hole? we’re sunk

[The Cajun]

The liquefied gas in the storage well is not under high pressure, the danger occurs if the salt dome holding it collapses and it's released to the surface all at once.
It actually needs to be pumped out.
Don't know the pressures from the small naturally occurring gas pockets in the area or parts per million of H2S involved.
An area 10-12 miles away has lots of H2S gas pockets.
Hindsight says this wasn't the best place for Texas Brine to be working in or for damn sure the storage outfit that was storing liquefied gas in the dome next to it.

[Blogger]

The well that contains the butane had some unusual seismic activity around the 28th, as if something was falling.

Hopefully that is not indicative of any sort of a faillure. But I agree, they need to pump the butane out of that well.

http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/heli_temp/

[Blogger]

c. By virtue of destabilization of the earth around it along with the release of more than just the gas it is going after - it doesn’t sound that great.

[okie01]

c. By virtue of destabilization of the earth around it along with the release of more than just the gas it is going after - it doesn’t sound that great.

I live in the middle of the Barnett shale -- the place where horizontal drilling in concert with fracking was first conducted on a large scale.

There has been no adverse impact on the environment whatsoever.

All the fearmongering conducted by the enviro-whackos is just that -- fear-mongering. It has no basis in actual fact.

[Blogger]

Logic dictates that fracturing the earth in a gazillion spots would be destabilizing. On the other hand it could release tension. Also, one piece of anecdotal evidence from one location doesn’t a case make.

[FreedomPoster]

Here’s an old story about a sinkhole disaster in LA:

Lake Peigneur sinkhole disaster
http://youtu.be/ddlrGkeOzsI

Very much worth the 10m to watch.

[Smokin' Joe]

Thanks for a sane answer to what’s going on down there. I figured salt was involved somewhere.

[Blogger]

Also, the impact is not zero. That is misleading. http://energy.utexas.edu/index.php?Itemid=160&id=151&option=com_content&view=article

Key Findings:

Researchers found no evidence of aquifer contamination from hydraulic fracturing chemicals in the subsurface by fracturing operations, and observed no leakage from hydraulic fracturing at depth.

Many reports of groundwater contamination occur in conventional oil and gas operations (e.g., failure of well-bore casing and cementing) and are not unique to hydraulic fracturing.

Methane found in water wells within some shale gas areas (e.g., Marcellus) can most likely be traced to natural sources, and likely was present before the onset of shale gas operations.

Surface spills of fracturing fluids appear to pose greater risks to groundwater sources than from hydraulic fracturing itself.

Blowouts — uncontrolled fluid releases during construction or operation — are a rare occurrence, but subsurface blowouts appear to be under-reported.

Also, horizontal fracking has drawn some concern from non enviro whackos.

“Hydraulic fracturing has been around for decades, but with horizontal drilling now coming into play, people are increasingly questioning and scrutinizing the risks involved,” said Andrew Maynard, professor of environmental health sciences and director of U-M’s Risk Science Center. “Areas of concern include perceived lack of transparency, potential chemical contamination, water availability, waste water disposal, and impacts on ecosystems, human health and surrounding areas.”

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2012-11-fracking-michigan-potential-impact-health.html#jCp