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EPA tells judge it will impose stricter water pollution standards on Florida
St. Petersburg - Tampa Bay Times ^ | December 1, 2012 | Craig Pittman

Posted on 12/01/2012 6:15:14 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

........Late Friday night, the EPA said in a news release that it had approved the state rules for part of the state's waterways, but would still impose the federal rules for the rest. According to David Guest of Earthjustice, that means the state rules cover only 15 percent while the new federal rules cover 85 percent — about 100,000 miles of waterways.

State DEP officials said they were disappointed the EPA would impose federal rules on any part of the state and vowed to "work with them to craft solutions" to put the state in charge of all pollution rules.

The move signals the end of a lengthy court and political battle over the new pollution standards, and the environmental activists involved hailed the decision........

...The EPA decision, which sets a nationwide precedent, also marks a first step toward changing many aspects of current Florida life, including how suburban lawns are fertilized and the way stormwater runoff and sewage are treated by local governments.

The next step will be for EPA officials to draw up guidelines for Florida's counties and cities on how they should implement the new rules, said Frank Jackalone of the Sierra Club, one of the plaintiffs in the suit. One example he cited that counties and cities may choose to follow: Pinellas County's ban on the sale of fertilizer during the rainy summer season.......

(Excerpt) Read more at tampabay.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: environment; epa; epaoutofcontrol; fertilizer; fl; florida; floridawater; fridaynewsdump; pollution; water

1 posted on 12/01/2012 6:15:22 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I hope Rick Scott tells them...pound sand...


2 posted on 12/01/2012 6:22:21 AM PST by JZoback
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To: JZoback

This is Valerie Jarrett payback, plain and simple, nevermind pound sand, up-yours is better...


3 posted on 12/01/2012 6:26:07 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They missed something in this. The new EPA regulations were only going to affect the northern part of Florida. South Florida didn’t have to worry about them. Brain teaser for Saturday morning, which part of the state is predominately Democrat and which part is predominately Republican?


4 posted on 12/01/2012 6:27:11 AM PST by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Obama Federal octopus will keep tightening in a thousand different ways which will impoverish and subjugate the populace. Ultimately, the people will become serfs dependent on the largess of a benevolent despot with a ruling hierarchy who will be insulated from the oppression directed at the rest of us. The solution is there for all to see, but few are willing to seriously consider it.


5 posted on 12/01/2012 6:37:15 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Traveler59

Which part is BIG sugar and BIG citrus in? South
What is by far the largest pollutor in all of Florida?
That and the paper industry in the north.


6 posted on 12/01/2012 6:40:50 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: taildragger
This is Valerie Jarrett payback, plain and simple

From Article:
The EPA had told Florida and all the other states in 1998 to set numeric nutrient standards

This is long running issue, but the EPA now feels empowered now to step on all...

Scott should tell them...you want to enforce this? ...come on down to the sunshine state and do it yourself..

7 posted on 12/01/2012 6:41:07 AM PST by Popman
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To: Traveler59

Time for an other battle of Olustee. We halted the army of northern aggrestion there and can do it again.


8 posted on 12/01/2012 6:42:03 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Mouton
We = the democRATs.
9 posted on 12/01/2012 6:47:43 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

>>also marks a first step toward changing many aspects of current Florida life, including how suburban lawns are fertilized and the way stormwater runoff and sewage are treated by local governments.

When the sewer rates skyrocket (and they will), the people will blame the utility. The saddest part is that the liberals in town blame the “fat cats who are getting rich” off the increases (yeah, most sewer utilities are non-profit municipals, but reality has no effect on these people) and the conservatives blame the “lazy workers who drive around in their trucks all day and do nothing”.

No one has the guts to shake a fist (then to organize and rattle a saber and finally pull back a bolt) at the government and its army of bureaucrats and demand that they go back to DC and let us live our lives.


10 posted on 12/01/2012 6:49:58 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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>>What is by far the largest pollutor in all of Florida?

The biggest polluter of waterways in Florida is St Augustine grass and the idea of the perfect, uniform lawn along with all the HOA rules that require it. Industries have really cleaned up their acts in the last 40 years since the Clean Water Act passed. But the demand for the perfect lawn has gone up and up. The amount of fertiizer and water that is used to create a non-productive crop like St Augustine grass is mind-boggling.

If the government cared about the water more than it cares about punishing industry, it would pass laws removing all yard restrictions from HOA rules and mandate that natural-growing grasses be used for lawns (all of them, including golf courses).


11 posted on 12/01/2012 6:57:50 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Traveler59

You know what else they missed? The fact the Sierra Club never bothers to make a big stink about all the sand its benefactors truck in and dump on their precious Palm Beach coastline to keep their mega mansions from washing away. Funny how certain environmental molestations are overlooked....


12 posted on 12/01/2012 7:00:35 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Too much cash in the bank and not enough brains to properly manage it.

The Sierra club continues to bludgeon America. Would that America might return the favor.


13 posted on 12/01/2012 7:24:20 AM PST by wita
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
........Late Friday night

Always the favoirte time for scoundrels and thieves to make thier plans.

And this is the basis for judgment: The light has come into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light because their actions were evil. John 3:19 (ISV)

14 posted on 12/01/2012 7:24:27 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“said Frank Jackalone of the Sierra Club,”

Related to Barney and Antony no doubt.

15 posted on 12/01/2012 7:47:59 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I may haul my boat out to Pensacola this Christmas to be oppressed by the EPA.


16 posted on 12/01/2012 7:49:10 AM PST by pallis
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“We fought every polluting industry in Florida for four years to get to this result,” said Guest, who represented environmental groups [Sierra Club, Florida Wildlife Federation and other environmental groups] in pursuing a lawsuit based on a 1998 EPA finding.

The EPA decision, which sets a nationwide precedent...


17 posted on 12/01/2012 9:43:10 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Truth29

Ultimately, the people will become serfs

Is that future tense?

If you haven’t noticed there are a whole lot of serfs slaving for the government so the government can justify taking from your labor to support those with no skin in the game, or very little in comparison to the serfs.


18 posted on 12/01/2012 11:14:36 AM PST by wita
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"I may haul my boat out to Pensacola this Christmas to be oppressed by the EPA."

It may be time for the Conch Republic for real, but that is a little further south.

19 posted on 12/01/2012 11:30:50 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Florida voted for obama, so they can suck it. They stuck us with this crap so enjoy!


20 posted on 12/01/2012 3:18:03 PM PST by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I thought the power of the purse is with the House of Representatives. How come the Republicans don’t just defund the EPA? If they can’t but they don’t, shouldn’t they be partly to blame?


21 posted on 12/02/2012 10:31:48 AM PST by winner3000
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I thought the power of the purse is with the House of Representatives. How come the Republicans don’t just defund the EPA? If they can’t but they don’t, shouldn’t they be partly to blame?


22 posted on 12/02/2012 10:32:08 AM PST by winner3000
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Welcome to 0bama hell round two. Bathhouse Barry(JugEars) can play golf all day and shoot hoops with Reggie Love the rest. Why should he work or govern when he has millions of Federale parasites with an axe to grind? He has turned them loose to (biblical cloud of locusts) to oppress (over-regulate) and overtax the productive private sector so he can give this money to the gimme sector. His constituents.

Beam me up Scotty.


23 posted on 12/02/2012 10:41:22 AM PST by dennisw (With age comes wisdom.)
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