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Why Asian Americans Voted So Overwhelmingly For Obama
TBI ^ | 12-1-2012 | Menzie Chinn

Posted on 12/01/2012 6:50:41 AM PST by blam

Why Asian Americans Voted So Overwhelmingly For Obama

Menzie Chinn, Econbrowser
Dec. 1, 2012, 7:18 AM

Menzie Chinn is a professor at Robert M. La Follette School of Public Affairs

Noahpinion asks: “[W]hy did Asian-Americans break so strongly for Obama? I provide my (slightly different) answer.

As Noahpinion observes, given Asian American’s higher than average income, the Romney-esque argument that the group is one of “takers” not “makers” cannot be correct (of course, there is little empirical content to this particular thesis, anyway). 2012 was not an isolated event, by the way.

I am not a political scientist, and so am not particularly well-qualified to provide a proper quantitative analysis. But I can at least relay some thoughts based upon my own experiences on why some Chinese-Americans of a certain background might not feel comfortable with the Republican party. First, consider the composition of the party leadership, as represented by the new House Committee Chairmen:

Source: DailyKos.

Of course, it’s the policies that matter more. And here, I think the key factor of importance to Chinese-Americans is pragmatism (the generation of my parents -- who came from China -- saw enough rigid, dogmatic ideology run amok, thank you very much), and a belief in progress by way of science and technology. In this vein, Richard Posner speculates that Asian-Americans lean toward the Democratic party, despite the low-tax rate stance of the Republican party, because:

... being well educated as a group, Asian Americans may be disturbed by the hostility to science, particularly evolutionary biology, which Republican supporters and politicians have exhibited of late.

Charles Murray tries to explain Asian-American voting as pure mis-apprehension, to wit:

(snip)

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


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KEYWORDS: asians; election; romney
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To: blam

I already regret this quip, but what the hey: They have a slanted way of looking at things.


41 posted on 12/01/2012 8:10:01 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: blam

demographics bump for later.........


42 posted on 12/01/2012 8:12:24 AM PST by indthkr
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To: blam

Asians believe in Santa Claus too! Everybody loves freebies and they knew Barry would give them plenty of freebies.


43 posted on 12/01/2012 8:14:22 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't tax me bro! Tax that guy over there!)
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To: blam

It was because Obama was born in Hawaii, which is in Asia.


44 posted on 12/01/2012 8:16:07 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: momincombatboots

” Like attracts like” is so applicable. Look at the chart and see that the three non-Caucasian ethnic groups charted, including the orientals joining the other two, each have a different historical societal base than the USA. These groups for the most part today with extreme immigration do not fathom or want to live under a government intended by our Founders. They come/came to the USA to get in on the ‘milk and honey’. I also am suspicious that the Muslim population has much the same propensity.


45 posted on 12/01/2012 8:19:05 AM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Right Brother
If this is true, then Asians are not nearly as smart as assumed. When the government robs you of most of your money and your freedom, creation vs. evolution will be the last thing on your mind.

I'm Not too sure I buy this nonsense about Republicans being anti-science. Having worked with a few Chinese nationals I have noticed that they are very smart and good technicians, until something out of the ordinary happens. Then they need to be told exactly how to proceed. IMHO it comes from living under an authoritarian system (I noticed the same thing with many of the Russian nationals). You never want to think outside of the box lest the authorities notice you. Let's translate that to the election. If you have the mindset of the government telling you what to do , who will you vote for? The guy who says "free markets", and "you can make it on your own or possibly fail" OR the party of "I'll take care of you no matter what , you just need to support me"?

I have no statistical proof for this , just my own observation for what it's worth.

46 posted on 12/01/2012 8:19:56 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: blam

In the early 90s, Asians had first-generation and fresh first-hand memories of communist rule in Viet Nam and China. I personally know Viet Namese people who have shared their incredible tales of fleeing communist tyranny. Many Asians in American also had relatives living under tyranny.

Now we are 1-1/2 generations away from those first-hand experiences. Americans are now one to two generations away from the Cold War experiences of living under the communist threat.

Is it really a surprise that young people today, who have no life experiences with tyranny, are beginning to embrace communism as “just another lifestyle”?


47 posted on 12/01/2012 8:21:58 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: blam
My neighbor may well be an exception to the norm but she is originally from China and is as conservative as I am, if not more so. She is an American citizen and very proud of that fact, she's about 55-60 years old and came here with her husband about 30 years ago.

He died and with his insurance money she bought a Chinese restaurant. She employs 35 people and you don't want to get her started about democrats and how they are choking the life out of small businesses and especially her small business.

Her employees already have insurance through her business, not the best but she has no idea what obamacare is going to do or require.

She also wonders why I haven't been to her restaurant, which is not that far away, my wife and kids have been and they love it, I just don't have the heart to tell her that I detest even the smell of Chinese food, I think it may be the smell of soy sauce that permeates everything, even the parking lot.

48 posted on 12/01/2012 8:25:49 AM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: Drew68

The Daily Koz a radical gay left wing website is propaganda and the source for this crap !
I am saying the exit polls are pure statistical crap and meaningless but if the left likes the results they spin it non stop .
Which is exactly what is going on!
How many people were interviewed and in what cities ?
No data there !
Do you see any analysis of Asians in San Frn vote different than those in Houston ? No data there !
Do Chinese vote different than Japanese ??
No data there !

It’s far left wing propaganda using a broad brush with no reliable source!


49 posted on 12/01/2012 8:26:38 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Yeah, and only about 36% of the republicans got out and voted for Romney...what does that tell you.

It tells me 2 things.

1) We need to stop having these knock down drag out primaries where the losers only halfheartedly support the winner. That doesn't happen on the left. After the Hilderbeast lost in '08 there wasn't this mass of liberals who stayed home, on the contrary they were as united as the Nazis in the Reichstag back in the 30s.

2) The GOP establishment needs to stop treating small government conservatives like red headed step children. Maybe start talking up the fundamental principles of our founding such as freedom, small government, home rule (state control of programs). Stop trying to play the "progressive lite" game. Romney didn't help himself when he refused to admit that Romney care was a mistake, yet still said he wanted to "repeal and replace" 0bamacare (talk about a mixed message)

50 posted on 12/01/2012 8:34:47 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: RIghtwardHo
Asian-Americans are VERY socially liberal. This isn’t an economic issue so much as a social one. They overwhelmingly favor gay marriage and abortion. This isn’t a demographic we are going to get ... or want.

Sad but very very true.

Not very very true, but very sad that you think that way.

Most Asians in America have very traditional values regarding religion, families, economics, etc. They should be on our side (and some of them are).

Problem is, many have been brainwashed by the liberal establishment in America.

While they were busy studying mathematics and science in high school and college, Asians were also getting a "liberal" dose of Anti-Americanism in their social studies and history classes.

Since they were taught never to question teachers, Asian kids swallowed the poison and refocused on classes that they were interested in.

A lot of Asians don't care so much about politics, and they can be easily influenced in these matters. Someone just needs to let them know that liberal Democrat policies (that they heard from academia) are wrong and against their self-interest.

Don't count them out so easily.

51 posted on 12/01/2012 8:37:37 AM PST by wai-ming
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To: blam
Comments from the article:

...Republicans are seen by Asians—as they are by Latinos, blacks, and some large proportion of whites—as the party of Bible-thumping, anti-gay, anti-abortion creationists. Factually, that’s ludicrously inaccurate.

In other words, for the Republican party to make inroads into the Asian-American voting bloc (which split 73-26 in favor of Obama), they will need to do more than make some vague noises about greater ethnic inclusion. They will need to think more deeply about whether the age of the earth is closer to 4000 or 4 billion years, whether females can negate unwanted pregnancies merely by willing it, and whether statistical theory and/or the central limit theorem is bunk.

Simple explanation for voting:

1. People who do not have a Biblical background tend to vote liberal (other non-Biblical religion, or pretend believers).

1. People who do have a Biblical foundation and are faithful or making an attempt to live by values tend to vote conservatively.

As more people from the rest of the world which has little to do with the Bible move here, the result is obvious. So, we are being told that to win politically, we have to bow down to Baal. They can have it, I will not bow down. And, God will rescue me and those who follow him. And even if he does not, we will still not bow down to Baal.

52 posted on 12/01/2012 8:38:01 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: blam

A lot of these are second-generation Americans, and are part of the Jon Stewart voter block. They are also not original thinkers and would tend to follow the authority of the Cool Guy.


53 posted on 12/01/2012 8:39:36 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: ilgipper
There is no hostility to science in the Republican Party this is such a blatant lie.

Um...have you ever read any thread remotely having to do with science or scientists on FR?

54 posted on 12/01/2012 8:41:55 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Drew68

That’s because we don’t wallow in lies, but you do, obviously.


55 posted on 12/01/2012 8:52:09 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: blam
Question: "Why Asian Americans Voted So Overwhelmingly For Obama"

Answer: They are members of the Third World and as such resent the European and will join with other Third World people to conquer the West.

The Asian example for this recent election demonstrates the fallacy of thinking that just because a group is productive therefor they share the same ideology.

"Those who think only in economic terms are forever victims of those who don't."

56 posted on 12/01/2012 8:54:09 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: blam

Menzie Chinn of TBI (I never link lefty sources) would probably deny Mao’s murder of millions or consider it necessary to “break a few eggs”.
This is krap ...Doesn’t anyone know who LaFollette was ? A leading socialist from Wisconsin. When socialists get to the podium black becomes white but white may remain white only as long as it supports their idea of the universe..

This empahsis on global warming only lays credance to the master plan on oil/coal/gas policies being being implemented by the Obama regime brought out by even by Romney and the reason why energy costs are and where they’re at ..by design


57 posted on 12/01/2012 8:58:53 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: trebb
They have a slanted way of looking at things.

I'm sure this is what you had in mind, when you wrote that:

Hope you can fix your slanted perception problem soon!

Wai-ming

58 posted on 12/01/2012 8:59:08 AM PST by wai-ming
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Perception is everything, and right now Asians perceive Republicans as racist, nativist, and anti-science. The GOP has done exactly nothing to counter this largely false Democrat caricature, so the party is reaping the rewards of its inaction.

Perfectly stated.

59 posted on 12/01/2012 8:59:58 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: blam
Anybody but the white guy.
60 posted on 12/01/2012 9:01:16 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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