Skip to comments.Kansas City Chiefs’ Jovan Belcher kills girlfriend, then self
Posted on 12/01/2012 8:54:51 AM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage
Just horrific news out of Kansas City this morning.
According to multiple reports, Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher shot and killed his girlfriend, and then drove to the teams facility and killed himself.
The team confirmed the incident in a statement.
We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning. We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation.
The 25-year-old Belcher, who started 10 games this season, reportedly fired the first gunshots around 8 a.m., and then drove to the facility a short time later. Making matters worse, Belcher and his girlfriend had a baby less than three months ago.
Several Chiefs coaches confronted Belcher, urging him not to take his own life, police say.
Police: #Chiefs player, 25, was met by coaches in the parking lot of the practice facility and then took his own life.
Kansas City Star (@KCStar) December 1, 2012
Head coach Romeo Crennel and general manager Scott Pioli supposedly witnessed the suicide.
There was some speculation that team officials are pushing for the NFL to postpone Sundays game between the Chiefs and Panthers at Arrowhead Stadium.
The league, unfortunately, isnt listening.
The devil was inside him.
I KNOW FOR A FACT that a concussion made him do it. BAN FOOTBALL NOW! (and any other successful American endeavor) (SARC)
You maybe more right than you think
Such a horrible tragedy for their child. I can’t imagine what type of trauma his coaches must be going through. To see someone you know commit suicide right in front of you has to be one of those life events that never ever fully leaves you.
I meant it with no irony or sarcasm, but quite literally.
I’ll go along with banning football if we could ban soccer first.
If soccer were banned I would then ask for a do-over like libs do & keep football.
If I was a cruel,rude,kind of guy I'd respond to your statement by saying "I've *worked* for a neuropathologist (which is true,BTW),do you even know what a neuropathologist *is*?"
But I won't say it because I'm neither of those things.What I *will* say is that I've never been to medical school and,assuming you haven't either,neither of us are qualified to make medical judgments.Neurologists,neurosurgeons and neuropathologists are researching repetitive brain injuries and have been doing so for some time.Let's wait to see what *they* might have to say on the subject.
Yep. Demons look for any opportunity to get in your head.
"It's nod a toooma!"
I doubt this happened because guns are illegal.
One can certainly put that forth as one possibility.Another possibility is that he had some sort of serious brain disorder...a major chemical imbalance of some sort.Chemical imbalances can occur in *any* organ of the body...heart...lungs...liver...kidneys...brain.
I was thinking the same exact thing. We are given each day, a choice between a blessing and a curse.
People really don’t comprehend the power of evil in our lives.
Praying for peace and comfort for these families. How very sad. :(
Rush made a comment a few weeks back that they’d look for a reason to ban football, and he wasn’t joking.
Being a POS person made him do it.
No brains,no class,and no sense of responsibility are a bad mix.
Worse is the fact that so many of us don’t recognize the power to choose
If you want to see sterling examples of reprobate minds; check out the comments at ESPN...bring a barf bucket.
The fact that choices can sometimes be difficult is what make some say “it’s not really a choice”. How we deal with evil in the world and the way it affects us is a choice, regardless of the difficulties involved.
That or "bath salts" would be my guess. Be interesting to see what the toxicology panel reveals.
That makes sense.
My life is far from perfect and I choose mild irritation and acceptance over the rages of my youth.
That’s exactly the human element ESPN cultivates.
Maybe somebody told him Romney won?
One of the reasons I don't pay much attention to sports anymore...too many reprobates. Way too many.
I wonder if we will ever be privy to the history and details of this POS leading up to his actions. You can be sure this dirtbag had shown threatening signs to the female victim.
As a survivor and executioner of this kind of nutjob, there is very little the “law” will do until they act out their sickness.
Prayers for everyone involved except for the filth himself.
All sorts of things can make a person snap. Maybe his ‘girlfriend’ was badgering him with something like getting married to give his son a traditional family.
This world is ruled by the spirit world in alot of ways. I believe in a “spirit of suicide” and “spirit of murder” just as much as a “spirit of fear,” etc.
I’ve encountered this spirit of suicide a few times in the last year. Unless you get what I’m talking about, you can’t imagine how strong it is.
My God, man! Did you not see the (sarc) tag? Wasn’t it obvious I was attacking libs who want to ban football?
I don't know this player, but its clear from what he did - He likely led a very confused, unhappy, and violent life - but it is also clear that by killing himself, he also had deep sorrow, regret and sadness. At some level, he realized he was on the wrong path, but didn't know how to resolve it.
God has put the seeds of redemption within all men's souls, but pride, ignorance and the devil are strong enemies.
Do not overlook that the murderer has a 3 month old baby that is now an orphan
Describe it to me. Seriously, I’m dealing with a coworker who has had an apparently terminal diagnosis and I’m concerned she’s going to kill herself. The hopelessness in her eyes is like the pits of hell. She’s very distraught about her daughter but emotionally flat about most everything else. Except offers to pray for her. She becomes irate. I had believed her to be Christian. Is she in shock? I’ve been acquainted with a couple of people over the years who killed themselves. They just went and did it, leaving everyone to wonder why, wracking their brains for what they’d failed to recognize.
Yes, true, it could be entirely organic. Like the Texas Tower sniper Charles Whitman. If I have the history correct, he went from normal to incredibly disturbed as a tumor was growing inside his skull.
Just wait until (not when) the power goes out, people are hungry, and all of the “meds” have run out.
A lot of people are only maintaining a semblance of normalcy due to the wonders of modern chemistry.
A lot of people will totally “act out” in insane ways when they suddenly have no food, no power, no fuel for their car, no job to go to, and no anti-psychotic meds to hold them together.
It will get seriously ugly out there, when millions of folks “go off their meds” at roughly the same time.
How utterly tragic on so many levels. Incomprehensible.
What a beautiful little baby.
>>Head coach Romeo Crennel and general manager Scott Pioli supposedly witnessed the suicide.
The word is he thanked the both of them, then shot himself. Both used to work for NE Patriots and Crennel used to coach the Browns.
They will have to. The entire team facility is now a crime scene, and though it's probably going to be a prefunctory investigation, given the witnesses, there will nonetheless be some sort of investigation. That will take at least a day, and completely disrupt preparations - never mind the emotional aspects.
The NFL will have to postpone - perhaps until Monday or Tuesday at least. To do otherwise would be... well, like the NFL.
I knew what u meant
Ive seen my share if it and unfortunately done his bidding myself at times
Its our struggle
The lefts new man they hope to create won’t fix that
In fact...it greases his skids
Lighten up Francis.
(SARC) is short for (SARCASM). Look it up. Perhaps your neuropathologist employer can help with that.
The NFL postpones games for lots of stuff. And probably will this one. Notice the first part of that para was that there was speculation team officials were asking to postpone, then it declares as fat the league isn’t listening. How can there be a fact of somebody not listening to requests that are only speculated? Just bad reporting wanting to make the league look bad. Right now the league is probably just staying out of the way of investigators, waiting until they pause to get an estimate of how long the investigation will be so they know when to postpone to.
Why don’t these guys ever kill THEMSELVES first? Why do they always take put others?
Such acts are assertions of power. The perp asserts his power, then kills himself to avoid retribution. It's like getting the last word in an argument.
In Ephesians 6:12 St Paul describes what we battle against and it’s not flesh and blood, it’s the spiritual realm. The devil and his demons work to steal, kill, and destroy. What I have learned through going through hell in the past year is that these spirits will come upon you when you are weak ( suffering from depression for example) and they manipulate you in such a powerful way that you feel suicidal even though it’s not your feelings but the spirits or demons projecting that into you so you will kill yourself. The pain feels like it’s your own when it isn’t. When I’ve made it through, I marvel at how I could have even entertained the idea knowing I would never want to hurt my family or endanger my soul.
In Daniel 10, you see that when he prayed God sent an angel to answer his prayer and even though the Prince of Persia, a demon, tried to hold him up the angel was able to get to Daniel. You also see this evidence when Christ was praying in the wilderness the angels were sent to Him. He also defeated the demons with the Word of God. St Paul also said to pray and use the Word to defeat the evil spirits.
You pray for your friend and ask God to release angels to defeat the demons that are oppressing your friend. Even if she seems angry about it your don’t have to tell her just do it. While your praying, read scriptures that talk about Christ victory over the evil of this world.
The reason I know this works, beyond the Bible, is I have a friend who had been praying for me and through that prayer I realized what was going on and was able to pray and fight as well. Before that, I was like your friend being very angry with God and feeling abandoned by Him. He showed me through my friend that He had never left me or forsaken me. :) The same can happen for your friend, too.
Im sure the guy killed himself because he didn’t want to spend life in prison.
“They just went and did it, leaving everyone to wonder why, wracking their brains for what theyd failed to recognize.”
After much research on the topic I have come to the conclusion that every human has a ‘life-wish’ and a ‘death-wish’. Under normal circumstances the ‘life-wish’ is more powerful than the ‘death-wish’. It is believed that a chemical imbalance that can occur at any time during one’s life, causes the ‘death-wish’ to become more powerful than the ‘life-wish’.
There is still extensive, ongoing research to try to find out why it happens. It seems to happen randomly in people from all walks of life.
Yes,I know *exactly* what you were doing and I responded.The simple fact is that regardless of how much the NFL (and,perhaps,the NHL) want to preserve their sports "as is" science...*medical* science...just might make that an unwise plan.Boston University School of Medicine,for example,is conducting a research study right now with the cooperation of former NFL players (and their heirs) regarding the effect that head injuries had on these players.The preliminary report I read suggested that there's evidence of subtle...and not so subtle...effects,ADVERSE effects,having been found.My understanding is that this study is ongoing.It's hard to imagine that similar studies aren't taking place at other top medical schools both here and abroad.
Science is science.If researchers found that 20 Twinkies in a lifetime caused cancer in 90% of research subjects then,regardless of how important a part of American culture they might have been,a reasonable person would abstain from eating them.And if 50...or 20...or 5 concussions are found to have severe consequences in 90% of research subjects then one could conclude that preventing these concussions would be a very wise idea.Even if that means substantial rule changes...or worse.
Isn’t this just a fancy way of saying “the devil made him do it”.
Very true.Who knows? The guy could have just been a scumbag,on drugs,severely depressed and/or psychotic (which could be chemically based) or,as I noted in Post #48,he could have been brain damaged.The human brain is,in reality,just a mass of cells...just like every other organ of the body.If your liver is damaged,either through injury or a biological process,you turn yellow.If your heart is diseased you have pain,or become weak,etc.If your brain is diseased either through injury or a biological process then,in some cases at least,you can do very bad things that aren't part of your true nature.