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Kansas City Chiefs’ Jovan Belcher kills girlfriend, then self
Helmet2Helmet ^ | December 1, 2012 | Zack Kelberman

Posted on 12/01/2012 8:54:51 AM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

Just horrific news out of Kansas City this morning.

According to multiple reports, Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher shot and killed his girlfriend, and then drove to the team’s facility and killed himself.

The team confirmed the incident in a statement.

“We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning. We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation.”

The 25-year-old Belcher, who started 10 games this season, reportedly fired the first gunshots around 8 a.m., and then drove to the facility a short time later. Making matters worse, Belcher and his girlfriend had a baby less than three months ago.

Several Chiefs coaches confronted Belcher, urging him not to take his own life, police say.

Police: #Chiefs player, 25, was met by coaches in the parking lot of the practice facility and then took his own life.

— Kansas City Star (@KCStar) December 1, 2012

Head coach Romeo Crennel and general manager Scott Pioli supposedly witnessed the suicide.

There was some speculation that team officials are pushing for the NFL to postpone Sunday’s game between the Chiefs and Panthers at Arrowhead Stadium.

The league, unfortunately, isn’t listening.


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Do not overlook that the murderer has a 3 month old baby that is now an orphan and that he committed suicide in front of 2 people who knew him well.
1 posted on 12/01/2012 8:54:56 AM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

The devil was inside him.


2 posted on 12/01/2012 8:57:09 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

I KNOW FOR A FACT that a concussion made him do it. BAN FOOTBALL NOW! (and any other successful American endeavor) (SARC)


3 posted on 12/01/2012 8:58:05 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: Travis McGee

You maybe more right than you think


4 posted on 12/01/2012 9:00:18 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

Such a horrible tragedy for their child. I can’t imagine what type of trauma his coaches must be going through. To see someone you know commit suicide right in front of you has to be one of those life events that never ever fully leaves you.


5 posted on 12/01/2012 9:05:32 AM PST by momtothree
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To: svcw

I meant it with no irony or sarcasm, but quite literally.


6 posted on 12/01/2012 9:05:56 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

I’ll go along with banning football if we could ban soccer first.
If soccer were banned I would then ask for a do-over like libs do & keep football.


7 posted on 12/01/2012 9:07:57 AM PST by certrtwngnut (He shrugs!)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
I KNOW FOR A FACT that a concussion made him do it.

If I was a cruel,rude,kind of guy I'd respond to your statement by saying "I've *worked* for a neuropathologist (which is true,BTW),do you even know what a neuropathologist *is*?"

But I won't say it because I'm neither of those things.What I *will* say is that I've never been to medical school and,assuming you haven't either,neither of us are qualified to make medical judgments.Neurologists,neurosurgeons and neuropathologists are researching repetitive brain injuries and have been doing so for some time.Let's wait to see what *they* might have to say on the subject.

8 posted on 12/01/2012 9:08:19 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: Travis McGee

Yep. Demons look for any opportunity to get in your head.


9 posted on 12/01/2012 9:08:24 AM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
He's probably a 'roid head. A leaf falls from a tree and he goes on a rampage.

"It's nod a toooma!"


10 posted on 12/01/2012 9:09:22 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

I doubt this happened because guns are illegal.


11 posted on 12/01/2012 9:11:05 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Travis McGee
The devil was inside him.

One can certainly put that forth as one possibility.Another possibility is that he had some sort of serious brain disorder...a major chemical imbalance of some sort.Chemical imbalances can occur in *any* organ of the body...heart...lungs...liver...kidneys...brain.

12 posted on 12/01/2012 9:11:54 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: Travis McGee

I was thinking the same exact thing. We are given each day, a choice between a blessing and a curse.

People really don’t comprehend the power of evil in our lives.

Praying for peace and comfort for these families. How very sad. :(


13 posted on 12/01/2012 9:12:02 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Rush made a comment a few weeks back that they’d look for a reason to ban football, and he wasn’t joking.


14 posted on 12/01/2012 9:12:45 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Being a POS person made him do it.
No brains,no class,and no sense of responsibility are a bad mix.


15 posted on 12/01/2012 9:15:21 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Truth2012

Worse is the fact that so many of us don’t recognize the power to choose


16 posted on 12/01/2012 9:15:53 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Travis McGee

If you want to see sterling examples of reprobate minds; check out the comments at ESPN...bring a barf bucket.


17 posted on 12/01/2012 9:19:41 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: cripplecreek

The fact that choices can sometimes be difficult is what make some say “it’s not really a choice”. How we deal with evil in the world and the way it affects us is a choice, regardless of the difficulties involved.


18 posted on 12/01/2012 9:24:49 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
He's probably a 'roid head.

That or "bath salts" would be my guess. Be interesting to see what the toxicology panel reveals.

19 posted on 12/01/2012 9:25:52 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

That makes sense.

My life is far from perfect and I choose mild irritation and acceptance over the rages of my youth.


20 posted on 12/01/2012 9:28:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: who knows what evil?

That’s exactly the human element ESPN cultivates.


21 posted on 12/01/2012 9:31:42 AM PST by Fair Paul
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

Maybe somebody told him Romney won?


22 posted on 12/01/2012 9:32:29 AM PST by albie
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To: Fair Paul
That’s exactly the human element ESPN cultivates.

One of the reasons I don't pay much attention to sports anymore...too many reprobates. Way too many.

23 posted on 12/01/2012 9:36:02 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

I wonder if we will ever be privy to the history and details of this POS leading up to his actions. You can be sure this dirtbag had shown threatening signs to the female victim.

As a survivor and executioner of this kind of nutjob, there is very little the “law” will do until they act out their sickness.

Prayers for everyone involved except for the filth himself.


24 posted on 12/01/2012 9:36:28 AM PST by soycd
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25 posted on 12/01/2012 9:38:17 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Farmer Dean; Gay State Conservative

All sorts of things can make a person snap. Maybe his ‘girlfriend’ was badgering him with something like getting married to give his son a traditional family.


26 posted on 12/01/2012 9:39:03 AM PST by Baynative
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To: Travis McGee

This world is ruled by the spirit world in alot of ways. I believe in a “spirit of suicide” and “spirit of murder” just as much as a “spirit of fear,” etc.

I’ve encountered this spirit of suicide a few times in the last year. Unless you get what I’m talking about, you can’t imagine how strong it is.


27 posted on 12/01/2012 9:40:40 AM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

My God, man! Did you not see the (sarc) tag? Wasn’t it obvious I was attacking libs who want to ban football?


28 posted on 12/01/2012 9:42:12 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: Farmer Dean
Being a POS person made him do it. No brains,no class,and no sense of responsibility are a bad mix.

I don't know this player, but its clear from what he did - He likely led a very confused, unhappy, and violent life - but it is also clear that by killing himself, he also had deep sorrow, regret and sadness. At some level, he realized he was on the wrong path, but didn't know how to resolve it.

God has put the seeds of redemption within all men's souls, but pride, ignorance and the devil are strong enemies.

29 posted on 12/01/2012 9:46:35 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Robert DeLong

30 posted on 12/01/2012 9:47:09 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

Do not overlook that the murderer has a 3 month old baby that is now an orphan


Maybe he just found out the baby wasn’t his.


31 posted on 12/01/2012 9:48:25 AM PST by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Romney did in 2012)
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To: Lil Flower

Describe it to me. Seriously, I’m dealing with a coworker who has had an apparently terminal diagnosis and I’m concerned she’s going to kill herself. The hopelessness in her eyes is like the pits of hell. She’s very distraught about her daughter but emotionally flat about most everything else. Except offers to pray for her. She becomes irate. I had believed her to be Christian. Is she in shock? I’ve been acquainted with a couple of people over the years who killed themselves. They just went and did it, leaving everyone to wonder why, wracking their brains for what they’d failed to recognize.


32 posted on 12/01/2012 9:49:10 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yes, true, it could be entirely organic. Like the Texas Tower sniper Charles Whitman. If I have the history correct, he went from normal to incredibly disturbed as a tumor was growing inside his skull.


33 posted on 12/01/2012 9:52:01 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Lil Flower

Just wait until (not when) the power goes out, people are hungry, and all of the “meds” have run out.

A lot of people are only maintaining a semblance of normalcy due to the wonders of modern chemistry.

A lot of people will totally “act out” in insane ways when they suddenly have no food, no power, no fuel for their car, no job to go to, and no anti-psychotic meds to hold them together.

It will get seriously ugly out there, when millions of folks “go off their meds” at roughly the same time.


34 posted on 12/01/2012 9:55:26 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: jimbo123

How utterly tragic on so many levels. Incomprehensible.

What a beautiful little baby.


35 posted on 12/01/2012 9:57:06 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

>>Head coach Romeo Crennel and general manager Scott Pioli supposedly witnessed the suicide.

The word is he thanked the both of them, then shot himself. Both used to work for NE Patriots and Crennel used to coach the Browns.


36 posted on 12/01/2012 9:59:09 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage
"The league, unfortunately, isn’t listening [about a postponement of the game]."

They will have to. The entire team facility is now a crime scene, and though it's probably going to be a prefunctory investigation, given the witnesses, there will nonetheless be some sort of investigation. That will take at least a day, and completely disrupt preparations - never mind the emotional aspects.

The NFL will have to postpone - perhaps until Monday or Tuesday at least. To do otherwise would be... well, like the NFL.

37 posted on 12/01/2012 9:59:28 AM PST by alancarp (Liberals: making promises that no one's wallet can keep,)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Sarcasm is wasted on the illiterate.
38 posted on 12/01/2012 10:02:38 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: Travis McGee

I knew what u meant

Ive seen my share if it and unfortunately done his bidding myself at times

Its our struggle

The lefts new man they hope to create won’t fix that

In fact...it greases his skids


39 posted on 12/01/2012 10:05:26 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Lighten up Francis.

(SARC) is short for (SARCASM). Look it up. Perhaps your neuropathologist employer can help with that.


40 posted on 12/01/2012 10:06:01 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: alancarp

The NFL postpones games for lots of stuff. And probably will this one. Notice the first part of that para was that there was speculation team officials were asking to postpone, then it declares as fat the league isn’t listening. How can there be a fact of somebody not listening to requests that are only speculated? Just bad reporting wanting to make the league look bad. Right now the league is probably just staying out of the way of investigators, waiting until they pause to get an estimate of how long the investigation will be so they know when to postpone to.


41 posted on 12/01/2012 10:08:47 AM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

Why don’t these guys ever kill THEMSELVES first? Why do they always take put others?


42 posted on 12/01/2012 10:11:00 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: certrtwngnut
http://atdhenet.tv/56143/watch-bayern-munich-vs-borussia-dortmund LIVE
43 posted on 12/01/2012 10:17:21 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: LS
Why don’t these guys ever kill THEMSELVES first? Why do they always take put others?

Such acts are assertions of power. The perp asserts his power, then kills himself to avoid retribution. It's like getting the last word in an argument.

44 posted on 12/01/2012 10:17:53 AM PST by matt1234
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To: RegulatorCountry

In Ephesians 6:12 St Paul describes what we battle against and it’s not flesh and blood, it’s the spiritual realm. The devil and his demons work to steal, kill, and destroy. What I have learned through going through hell in the past year is that these spirits will come upon you when you are weak ( suffering from depression for example) and they manipulate you in such a powerful way that you feel suicidal even though it’s not your feelings but the spirits or demons projecting that into you so you will kill yourself. The pain feels like it’s your own when it isn’t. When I’ve made it through, I marvel at how I could have even entertained the idea knowing I would never want to hurt my family or endanger my soul.

In Daniel 10, you see that when he prayed God sent an angel to answer his prayer and even though the Prince of Persia, a demon, tried to hold him up the angel was able to get to Daniel. You also see this evidence when Christ was praying in the wilderness the angels were sent to Him. He also defeated the demons with the Word of God. St Paul also said to pray and use the Word to defeat the evil spirits.

You pray for your friend and ask God to release angels to defeat the demons that are oppressing your friend. Even if she seems angry about it your don’t have to tell her just do it. While your praying, read scriptures that talk about Christ victory over the evil of this world.

The reason I know this works, beyond the Bible, is I have a friend who had been praying for me and through that prayer I realized what was going on and was able to pray and fight as well. Before that, I was like your friend being very angry with God and feeling abandoned by Him. He showed me through my friend that He had never left me or forsaken me. :) The same can happen for your friend, too.


45 posted on 12/01/2012 10:19:07 AM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

Im sure the guy killed himself because he didn’t want to spend life in prison.


46 posted on 12/01/2012 10:19:12 AM PST by Husker24
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To: RegulatorCountry

“They just went and did it, leaving everyone to wonder why, wracking their brains for what they’d failed to recognize.”

After much research on the topic I have come to the conclusion that every human has a ‘life-wish’ and a ‘death-wish’. Under normal circumstances the ‘life-wish’ is more powerful than the ‘death-wish’. It is believed that a chemical imbalance that can occur at any time during one’s life, causes the ‘death-wish’ to become more powerful than the ‘life-wish’.

There is still extensive, ongoing research to try to find out why it happens. It seems to happen randomly in people from all walks of life.


47 posted on 12/01/2012 10:37:03 AM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; Bryanw92; Doctor 2Brains
My God, man! Did you not see the (sarc) tag? Wasn’t it obvious I was attacking libs who want to ban football?

Yes,I know *exactly* what you were doing and I responded.The simple fact is that regardless of how much the NFL (and,perhaps,the NHL) want to preserve their sports "as is" science...*medical* science...just might make that an unwise plan.Boston University School of Medicine,for example,is conducting a research study right now with the cooperation of former NFL players (and their heirs) regarding the effect that head injuries had on these players.The preliminary report I read suggested that there's evidence of subtle...and not so subtle...effects,ADVERSE effects,having been found.My understanding is that this study is ongoing.It's hard to imagine that similar studies aren't taking place at other top medical schools both here and abroad.

Science is science.If researchers found that 20 Twinkies in a lifetime caused cancer in 90% of research subjects then,regardless of how important a part of American culture they might have been,a reasonable person would abstain from eating them.And if 50...or 20...or 5 concussions are found to have severe consequences in 90% of research subjects then one could conclude that preventing these concussions would be a very wise idea.Even if that means substantial rule changes...or worse.

48 posted on 12/01/2012 10:53:10 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

Isn’t this just a fancy way of saying “the devil made him do it”.


49 posted on 12/01/2012 11:02:10 AM PST by maro (what did the President know and when did he know it?)
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To: Travis McGee
Yes, true, it could be entirely organic. Like the Texas Tower sniper Charles Whitman.

Very true.Who knows? The guy could have just been a scumbag,on drugs,severely depressed and/or psychotic (which could be chemically based) or,as I noted in Post #48,he could have been brain damaged.The human brain is,in reality,just a mass of cells...just like every other organ of the body.If your liver is damaged,either through injury or a biological process,you turn yellow.If your heart is diseased you have pain,or become weak,etc.If your brain is diseased either through injury or a biological process then,in some cases at least,you can do very bad things that aren't part of your true nature.

50 posted on 12/01/2012 11:09:17 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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