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Trayvon Martin Case Whoopsie – Scheme Team MEGA-Fail: “Dee Dee” is Keyser Soze – Motion to Compel
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | December 1, 2012 | Sundance

Posted on 12/01/2012 9:54:49 AM PST by Uncle Chip

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To: Uncle Chip
It was a complete ruse . . . . it was another example of NBC's cherry bomb journalism -- it was another reason why CNN is "the most busted news source" . . . it is the reason MSM employees are mere skid marks on Journalism's shorts.

I have not read this book but it has caused quite a stir among reviewers because the book details the author's many experiences fooling the MSM into published nonsense. Ryan Holiday, Author “Trust Me, I’m Lying” (Mr. Holiday was on the Andy Dean show)

Here's a Forbes article How This Guy Lied His Way Into MSNBC, ABC News, The New York Times and More

"He used Help a Reporter Out (HARO), a free service that puts sources in touch with reporters. Basically, a reporter sends a query, and a slew of people wanting to comment on the story email back."

Apparently as long as it is what the "reporter" wants to hear.. he publishes it without checking.

51 posted on 12/01/2012 11:19:31 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Scoutmaster

That’s possible. We’ll find out eventually.

All we know about this DeeDee is that she was 18 on April 2nd [according to her sworn statement] and hence could and should have been treated as an 18 year old — not a minor. But the State and Crump all carried on their charade.

According to her she knew Trayvon from kindergarten. How is that possible???

We may be dealing with multiple DeeDees.


52 posted on 12/01/2012 11:20:47 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: chris37

Republican has become a word with no real discernable definition.

However, I do believe that there is one word that essentially sums up what a republican actually is and what a republican is also portrayed to be.

Enemy.


Definitely so here in Florida

The GOP redistricted Alan West out of his seat...and another GOP House member suffered similar fate

And, of course, we have GOP in this state aiding Black Racists like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, New Black Panthers, Ben Crump, et al. The State Atty in my area was correct for not prosecuting this case


53 posted on 12/01/2012 11:21:17 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Illegal Aliens do not pay Social Security...Employers do)
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To: Lancey Howard
She was probably a customer of Trayvon’s, looking for some “lean”.

That's probably how it'll turn out. If she was really on the phone with him before and after the 7/11 trip then she knows all about the lean and the blunts transaction caught on the store's camera. That explains why she didn't contact the police that night. Of course, by now, the scheme team has manipulated her so that nothing she says will be anywhere close to the truth.

54 posted on 12/01/2012 11:22:47 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Eva

Check this out - - it’s a very good summary of Trayvon and “lean”:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/what_the_media_choose_not_to_know_about_trayvon.html


55 posted on 12/01/2012 11:24:45 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: FredZarguna

Being a Prosecutor of 25 years never, ever, ever is it all as simple as you think.

Actually, it’s pretty simple.

If the prosecutor shielded a witness from discovery under the false pretense that she was a minor that is prosecutorial misconduct.

Simple enough?


Yes it is quite simple. If you do not have the evidence, you do not prosecute

What sickens me is that it will be Seminole County, not Corey or the State, that will be paying Zimmerman for the malicious prosecution and the prosecutorial and judicial misconduct


56 posted on 12/01/2012 11:26:51 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Illegal Aliens do not pay Social Security...Employers do)
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To: Eva

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyser_S%C3%B6ze


57 posted on 12/01/2012 11:27:27 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: SeaHawkFan
Do you mean actual guilt or melanin-ascribed guilt?

Crackers, pay close attention to this case for it portends evil.

This administration not only wishes us to pick cotton for them but to partake in a little lynching of their own.

Voting was just the first part of the revenge.

58 posted on 12/01/2012 11:28:04 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: Eva
You're focusing too much on details, or the summary you read is not very good.

[Spoilers of The Usual Suspects ahead.]

Keyser Soze is essentially a "legend." And by that, I mean the kind of legend created by intgelligence/counterintelligence people: a character fiction or backstory containing sufficient elements of truth which make it appear to be factual, but which is, in fact, false.

In most books and films, we consider the narrator omniscient and truthful. The narrator in The Usual Suspects is an example of a technique referred to as "an unreliable narrator." [Christopher Nolan (of Batman fame) also explored this technique very thoroughly in his previous film, Memento.]

Because we cannot trust the narrator, by the end of The Usual Suspects, we do not really know if anything related to the policeman during the interrogation that forms the basis of the movie was truthful or not. This makes the ending -- which introduces the ONE verifiable FACT in the whole movie -- satisfying, and also makes repeated reviewing of the film interesting; to see if we can determine what parts of the story are true. The character of Keyser Soze himself may (or may not be) one of the reliable parts of the narrative.

The metaphor of Keyser Soze in the instant case is quite apt.

59 posted on 12/01/2012 11:28:22 AM PST by FredZarguna (Nothing against Paki's. Just paraphrasing Biden. Or Hillary. Or Both.)
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To: Uncle Chip

“After this will come the civil trials...”

By civil trials do you think Zimmerman sues, assuming he is not convicted, or Martin’s family sues Zimmerman?


60 posted on 12/01/2012 11:31:35 AM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: SeminoleCounty

I guess this case will be used as an example of a Trayvonisty: overcharge and push for a negotiated plea because the suspect (or in this case the real victim) does not have the funds to fight a bogus charge.


61 posted on 12/01/2012 11:34:12 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: saleman
By civil trials do you think Zimmerman sues ...

Absolutely. After securing immunity from prosecution from an immunity hearing, he will sue for what they have done to him and his family in the invention of this DeeDee narrative and this vicious prosecution.

Zimmerman will sue ABC, NBC, CNN, the State of Florida, Crump et al, Julison, the Martins and everyone involved. It will a target rich environment where the evidence being gathered here will be used there.

62 posted on 12/01/2012 11:39:38 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Scoutmaster

Read the article. It CLEARLY states she was 18 at the time of the incident.


63 posted on 12/01/2012 11:45:01 AM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: Uncle Chip

Angela Nifong Corey. Awaiting her just deserts.


64 posted on 12/01/2012 11:46:40 AM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Uncle Chip

That’s some horrible writing.


65 posted on 12/01/2012 11:48:11 AM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (I made a prank call...pretended I was a mime.)
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To: umgud

She charged by information rather than taking this to a Grand Jury I believe. What I do not know is what affect in Florida will that have upon any personal liability she might have in this matter.


66 posted on 12/01/2012 11:51:54 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

I had a hard time editing it to post it.


67 posted on 12/01/2012 11:55:05 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: umgud

She charged by information because she knew a grand jury would never return a murder II against him....manslaughter perhaps. She augmented that by leaving out exculpatory information from the affidavit which was brought out at prelim and which the Judge decided was not sufficient to kill the case (glad that POS was removed in favor of a fair judge). Now she has stonewalled the provision of evidence which was to be provided by statute to the defense in a timely fashion. Can one say removal is in order for her??


68 posted on 12/01/2012 11:57:00 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Uncle Chip

The sad part is that Seminole County and Sanford, who have spent at least $1 million prosecuting the case....will have to cough up more when Zimmerman sues....AND...this is when our own local State Attorney refused to prosecute it

Seminole County is struggling to fund its schools, and we have peed away $$$ on a case that is not winnable...because we have a Governor, Atty Gen, and out of town Prosecutor who want to pander to Black Racists


69 posted on 12/01/2012 12:01:19 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Illegal Aliens do not pay Social Security...Employers do)
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To: SeminoleCounty
Have the people in Seminole County woken up to the pathetic job the Whorelando Slantinel has done on this case and continues to do???

The whole point in this latest revelation is lost on Weenie there and he still has a job???

The star witness DeeDee was 18. That means that Weenie can actually do his job and find out who she is -- but no he has to do an article about how the Sanford PD might have bungled the case. What???? They are the only ones here who did their job and won't face civil action after this is over.

I guess Jeff Weenie thinks that the SPD bungled the case because they didn't think to invent a DeeDee as Crump and Corey and the State did.

70 posted on 12/01/2012 12:08:31 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: spacejunkie2001
Read the article. It CLEARLY states she was 18 at the time of the incident.

No.

Read footnote #2 in the Motion to Compel Production of Evidence from Third-Parties, on which the article's 'ah-hah!' moment is based, and which is underlined in the article.

"Witness is 18 years old and was 18 years old at the time of Crump's interview of her[.]"

Nothing in the source document for the article says the witness was 18 years old at the time of the incident.

Now read the article again. Where's this "CLEARLY" of which you write?.

71 posted on 12/01/2012 12:18:53 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: RIghtwardHo
Being a Prosecutor of 25 years never, ever, ever is it all as simple as you think.

Surprised you have the nerve to show your face on these threads after your earlier comments on the case. For example, you agreed with Santorum when he said:

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In remarks after President Obama made his first public comment on the matter, former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum said Friday that the handling by Florida law enforcement of the Trayvon Martin case has been “horrible” and that the state’s “Stand Your Ground” law should not apply to the shooter, George Zimmerman.

“Well, ‘Stand Your Ground’ is not doing what this man did,” Santorum said Friday morning at a campaign event in Monroe, La. “There’s a difference between ‘Stand Your Ground’ and doing what he did. And it’s a horrible case. It’s chilling to hear what happened, and of course the fact that law enforcement didn’t immediately go after and prosecute this case is another chilling example of horrible decisions made by people in this process.”

This former Prosecutor agrees with Rick.

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Why should you be given any credibility?

72 posted on 12/01/2012 12:19:01 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Lancey Howard
Check this out - - it’s a very good summary of Trayvon and “lean”:

I don't have the link from the autopsy summary, but there were some interesting findings. Trayvon was already experiencing liver damage which is consistent with his use of lean.
73 posted on 12/01/2012 12:20:05 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Yep, absolutely, the case of West is just shocking.

You know, it isn’t easy for me to say that republican = enemy, because I have identified myself as a republican since 1992, but it has become apparent to me that they are not who they say they are, and while the democrats describe them as enemies or antagonists for other reasons, that is in fact what they are.

They are wholly against conservatives and patriotic americans, they are the foil of democrats, their willing accomplices, they are the other hand needed for a successful shell game, they are the good cop to the bad cop, but both are bad cops.

I have often wondered how can a group of people who call themselves professional politicians possibly be as stupid as the republicans seem to be, but they are not that stupid. This is a game of deception being played for the detriment of its audience.

In the end, regardless of whomever was in power at any point in time, we are going to arrive at the same destination, and that destination is fallen.

As for Mister Zimmerman, he is a pawn about to be sacrificed to the tactic of divide and conquer. Perhaps he will prevail, but I would not want to have my life in the hands of twelve citizens from this state of Florida. I would not want that at all.


74 posted on 12/01/2012 12:21:50 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Uncle Chip

The attention here in Seminole has died down too.

Which actually will help Zimmerman if there is a trial. The local media here is awful in its coverage...pretty much omitting basic facts of the case

One thing about Seminole County is that it is unlike Sanford...most of he county is Conservative and supports gun ownership/self defense. Zim will get an impartial jury here.

The local media is based out of Orange County (Orlando) which is much more liberal


75 posted on 12/01/2012 12:23:25 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Illegal Aliens do not pay Social Security...Employers do)
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To: saleman
Unless they are very wealthy they are going to be ruined financially.

There has been a defense fund set up for him which was not listed by Zimmerman as assets when the judge first set bail. When the judge heard about it, she then reset his bail, saying he had lied and he then went back to jail.

76 posted on 12/01/2012 12:24:46 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: chris37

No doubt the GOP here in this state is just a few IQ points short of a Democrat.

But, I do have faith in the people of Seminole County...the county is not the Black Racists like in Sanford...most of the county is hard working middle class Americans who are conservative....Zimmerman’s potential jury pool


77 posted on 12/01/2012 12:27:39 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Illegal Aliens do not pay Social Security...Employers do)
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To: Uncle Chip
Now yesterday's "Motion to Compel Production of Evidence from a Third Party" reads accordingly:

"Witness Eight is 18 years old and was 18 at the time according to Crump's interview of her according to her sworn statement to the prosecutor on April 2, 2012.

That's not what the Motion to Compel Production says, and the misstatement of the Motion to Compel may lead people to believe Witness Eight was 18 years old at the time of the shooting.

What Footnote 2 to the Motion to Compel actually says is:

"Witness Eight is 18 years old and was 18 at the time of Crump's interview of her according to her sworn statement to the prosecutor on April 2, 2012.

See the difference?

78 posted on 12/01/2012 12:31:52 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Uncle Chip
Another thing that has had me riled up from the beginning is the fact that the "father" wasn't notified that his kid was killed until 8:00 a.m. the following morning.

So where was the father all this time, I thought he was home? And if he was home, how is it he never knew his kid wasn't home until 8:00 a.m. the following morning?????

You tell the cops your kid went out for skittles around 7:00 p.m. and have to wait till 8:00 a.m. the following morning to find out he's not home and never did come home from the evening before?

79 posted on 12/01/2012 12:34:34 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Scoutmaster; Uncle Chip

If DeeDee/Keyser Soze was 18 when Crump interviewed her...and she lied in the interview...she would be handled as an adult in civil and criminal matters

She may have witnessed the event before age 18...but her involvement in the case is after she turned 18. She is no longer a minor


80 posted on 12/01/2012 12:37:59 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Illegal Aliens do not pay Social Security...Employers do)
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To: Mears

bfl


81 posted on 12/01/2012 12:44:07 PM PST by Mears
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To: SeminoleCounty; Uncle Chip
She may have witnessed the event before age 18...but her involvement in the case is after she turned 18. She is no longer a minor.

I agree.

I'm simply trying to make certain people understand what has been disclosed and what hasn't. The facts here are damning enough. Do we need to encourage anyone to add to the facts (and I don't mean Uncle Chip)?

A little misinformation goes a long way. If you don't believe me, look at the Statutory Rape By Eighteen-Year-Old DeeDee Conspiracy comments on Conservative Treehouse.

82 posted on 12/01/2012 12:59:02 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Keyser Soze was the evil villain in the movie “The Usual Suspets” with Kevin Spacy. You heard about him, but really never saw him.


83 posted on 12/01/2012 1:01:39 PM PST by GoldenPup (Comrade "O" has got to GO!!)
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To: Scoutmaster
Thank you for the correction.

You are right. It does make a difference.

That is what happens when you don't have a paralegal transcribing from pdf for you.

84 posted on 12/01/2012 1:02:30 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Hot Tabasco

And Chad who was waiting for his Skittles all that time — and not a peep out of him.


85 posted on 12/01/2012 1:05:56 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Me? Use a paralegal?

You've seen enough typos in my posts to know I don't use a paralegal <*snicker*>

86 posted on 12/01/2012 1:07:30 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: dennisw

If you have a You Tube sign in, you can watch a Travon Martin “Fight Club,” Trayvon Martin Reffing a Interracial Street Fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC4eaaWJdFM&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3DTravon%2BMartin%2B%25E2%2580%259CFight%2BClub%25E2%2580%259D%2B%26oq%3DTravon%2BMartin%2B%25E2%2580%259CFight%2BClub%25E2%2580%259D%2B%26gs_l%3Dyoutube.12...3649.3649.0.5990.1.1.0.0.0.0.60.60.1.1.0...0.0...1ac.2.8R-yib5rAcE


87 posted on 12/01/2012 1:25:34 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of other people's money.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Mr Zimmerman is likely to be a rather wealthy man when this is all over.


88 posted on 12/01/2012 1:43:55 PM PST by lurk
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To: SeminoleCounty

Ah that is good to know about the potential jury pool. I am worried for this man. I know he is a liberal democrat, but still, no one deserves what is being done to him.

I’m not very familiar with Seminole County. I do appreciate the information regarding its make up. I am up here in Santa Rosa county, and I expect our make up here is very similar.


89 posted on 12/01/2012 2:06:38 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Thanks for that link, it really filled in a lot of blanks. I don’t know how I missed the part about the “lean”. I just never heard of it.


90 posted on 12/01/2012 2:49:17 PM PST by Eva
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To: Eva
I don’t know how I missed the part about the “lean”. I just never heard of it.

You mean you didn't hear all about it on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and NBC, or read all about it in the New York Times, and the Washington Post? Yeah, neither did I. Thank God for Free Republic. This is where I get the real news. I wish the useless, dinosaur Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms would hurry up and die already.

FRegards,
LH

91 posted on 12/01/2012 3:40:10 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: jonrick46

I went to the video link. Thanks.


92 posted on 12/01/2012 6:08:24 PM PST by dennisw ( The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Hulka

Medicines such as RobitussinnDM contain acetaminaphine, I.e. Tylenol. One side effect of Tylenol over use is liver damage, i.e. sorosis. According to the tox report/autopsy, Martin had signs of liver damage. Likely caused by Sizzurp a.k.a.Lean a.k.a. Purple Drank


93 posted on 12/01/2012 6:51:48 PM PST by representativerepublic (...loose lips, sink ships)
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To: Eva

The whole article was written extremely poorly. Sadly, it seems to be a style of writing that some people think is “hip”.


94 posted on 12/01/2012 9:18:33 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SeaHawkFan

Thats gone on forever. Its a game. A scoreboard. Justice turned on it’s head.


95 posted on 12/02/2012 1:11:14 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: representativerepublic

Cirrhosis is what you get from Tylenol. Sorosis is what you get from hanging out with George.


96 posted on 12/02/2012 2:59:23 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Uncle Chip; All

Correction: Footnote 2 should read:

“Witness Eight is 18 years old and was 18 at the time of Crump’s interview of her according to her sworn statement to the prosecutor on April 2, 2012. Her unedited statement to the prosecutor was not released to the defense until September and only after repeated requests. Her age was edited out of the interview in a previous disclosure.” [Pg 1, Footnote 2]

http://184.172.211.159/~gzdocs/documents/1112/motion_to_compel.pdf

So BDLR’s DeeDee was 18 on March 19th.

Does Crump have another DeeDee who was 16 on March 19th???

Does the State know about this other DeeDee???

Who was the “aunt and cousin” at the March 19th interview???

How do you think the State/BDLR/Corey will respond to the filing of this Motion???

Will the State get the recording device from Crump and turn it over to the Defense???

Will the State respond with a dissertation on why the device is private property beyond the reach of the Court in a criminal proceeding???

How will Judge Nelson respond to this Motion???


97 posted on 12/02/2012 6:14:13 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip; All

Benjamin Crump’s DeeDee: the Minor Child

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UupgJ4Un-Zo


98 posted on 12/02/2012 6:44:43 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip; All
Not that in Footnote #4, the Defense points out that Crump failed to do what the Judge ordered at the last court hearing. He was ordered to turn over to the State AND the Defense the names of who was present at the infamous interview. Crump did not turn them over to the Defense as ordered. He turned them over to the State and the State turned them over to the Defense.
99 posted on 12/02/2012 7:03:40 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: SeminoleCounty; chris37

No doubt the GOP here in this state is just a few IQ points short of a Democrat.


I think we are confusing stupid with evil. Republicans joining the Klan with a Tan for a good old fashioned lynching, is evil. They fully understand what they are doing in warping justice to feed black racism and it’s injustice.

The Florida GOP has to be tagged with this case as the party feeding black racism. Being a self hating race monger is no way to go through life. How would any of them feel if it was their son on the other end of this show trial that they have staged?


100 posted on 12/02/2012 7:07:16 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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