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National Review Online ^ | December 1, 2012 | Michael Barone

Posted on 12/01/2012 5:34:52 PM PST by Hojczyk

Americans are very generous to people with disabilities. Since passage of the Americans with Disabilities Act in 1990, millions of public and private dollars have been spent on curb cuts, bus lifts, and special elevators.

The idea has been to enable people with disabilities to live and work with the same ease as others as they make their way forward in life. I feel sure the large majority of Americans are pleased that we are doing this.

But there is another federal program for people with disabilities that has had an unhappier effect. This is the disability-insurance (DI) program, which is part of Social Security.

The idea is to provide income for those whose health makes them unable to work. For many years, it was a small and inexpensive program that few people or politicians paid much attention to.

In his recent book, A Nation of Takers: America’s Entitlement Epidemic, my American Enterprise Institute colleague Nicholas Eberstadt has shown how DI has grown in recent years.

In 1960, some 455,000 workers were receiving disability payments. In 2011, the number was 8,600,000. In 1960, the percentage of the economically active population aged 18 to 64 years old receiving disability benefits was 0.65 percent. In 2010, it was 5.6 percent.

“It is exceptionally difficult — for all practical purposes, impossible,” writes Eberstadt, “for a medical professional to disprove a patient’s claim that he or she is suffering from sad feelings or back pain.”

In 2011, 15 percent of disability recipients were in their 30s or early 40s. Concludes Eberstadt, “Collecting disability is an increasingly important profession in America these days.”

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1 posted on 12/01/2012 5:34:55 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

BALONEY!! I have heart disease, edema, diabetes, high blood pressure, hearing loss, PAD and more and have been turned down flat three times!!


2 posted on 12/01/2012 5:41:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Hojczyk
Could be because crap like this is now an accepted "disability"? And the list of "disabilities" never gets shorter, only longer.

Impeach the kenyan or secession.


3 posted on 12/01/2012 5:47:50 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you are in a wheel chair, you can start a good career suing hotels and others with pools. Obama extended the Americans with Disabilities act to include swimming pool access, and it is in effect now. Check into a hotel and ask to use the pool. If they don’t have a lift, ka-ching, its payday.


4 posted on 12/01/2012 5:49:01 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BALONEY!! I have heart disease, edema, diabetes, high blood pressure, hearing loss, PAD and more and have been turned down flat three times!!


Unfortunately, many who get the DI benefits are well lawyered up

One of the most common billboards seen in Appalachia are those of Disability Lawyers who seek “those who want to go on disability”. It is a big racket in many parts of this country

Your situation does not surprise me


5 posted on 12/01/2012 5:49:15 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Illegal Aliens do not pay Social Security...Employers do)
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To: Vince Ferrer

A two decade long scam. America would be a better place if we could round up all the lawyers and put them on a calving glacier.


6 posted on 12/01/2012 5:55:28 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Vince Ferrer

Indeed, the ADA is a travesty as implemented and I suspect the cost is in the billions, not millions.


7 posted on 12/01/2012 6:03:26 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Happy 10th FR birthday to meeeeeeeeee)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was told when I applied, I would most likely be turned down, but I was accepted almost immediately. I can’t prove it, but I think it was because I was collecting from a private disability policy. SS may have assumed that if I was already collecting from a private carrier, I must be disabled. The private carrier scrutinized my medical records thoroughly and even sent me to its own doctor. SS supposedly will also send me to its doctor if warranted, but so far, it hasn’t.

It might also be a random thing. I also had a private company do all the application paperwork. Was told I would be more likely to be approved if I had professionals complete the application than if I did it on my own.

It bugs me that there is no consistency in the process. People who can work are granted benefits. Those who can’t may be turned down. Especially bad if you’ve paid into the system and can’t collect, while some slouched can


8 posted on 12/01/2012 6:05:51 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

My cousin is one of those-a loser who is also a know-it-all.


9 posted on 12/01/2012 6:09:20 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Your ailments aren’t as important as where you apply at.


10 posted on 12/01/2012 6:09:20 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Hojczyk

” Since passage of the Americans with Disabilities Act in 1990, millions of public and private dollars have been spent on curb cuts, bus lifts, and special elevators.”

Millions? It has to be in the tens of billions!


11 posted on 12/01/2012 6:12:39 PM PST by aquila48
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To: fatnotlazy
People who can work are granted benefits

I know one of those. He's a truck driver (or was) and can't drive a truck because of "brain injury". Doesn't seem to have any problem driving a car or doing anything else. I should also mention, before he was injured he spent time in jail for a "violent sex offense" according to the registry.

12 posted on 12/01/2012 6:17:59 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: ex91B10

It is also because private disability insurance companies push people onto SSDI.


13 posted on 12/01/2012 6:20:32 PM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Silly white man, tricks are for minorities.


14 posted on 12/01/2012 6:21:52 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: aquila48

Not to mention the thousands of hospitals and ambulances that had to upgrade equipment to accommodate the quarter ton crowd.


15 posted on 12/01/2012 6:26:52 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: driftdiver

Not necessarily so...I’m watching a family member go through divorce and the dude is an absolute ZERO. She is a minority working nurse with two special needs kids (also his). He gets SSI, about $800/mo for the kids and she has to pay him $400/mo. He blew their savings day trading and even took out a second mortgage and blew that too. They had to file for bankruptcy. He’s a 60 yo white frickin ba$tard, she is a mid-40s asian hottie. Still is. He was a real skirt chaser as long as I’ve known him. Playboy type who is all used up.


16 posted on 12/01/2012 6:32:37 PM PST by fuente
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To: driftdiver

Not necessarily so...I’m watching a family member go through divorce and the dude is an absolute ZERO. She is a minority working nurse with two special needs kids (also his). He gets SSI, about $800/mo for the kids and she has to pay him $400/mo. He blew their savings day trading and even took out a second mortgage and blew that too. They had to file for bankruptcy. He’s a 60 yo white frickin ba$tard, she is a mid-40s asian hottie. Still is. He was a real skirt chaser as long as I’ve known him. Playboy type who is all used up.


17 posted on 12/01/2012 6:32:47 PM PST by fuente
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To: fuente

I’ve heard that applications for some classes of people are almost always denied the first time around. I am not an expert on it.


18 posted on 12/01/2012 6:34:57 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I interview lots of people on DI. Apparently the trick is to hire a lawyer who specializes in getting folks on DI.

I’ve been told it takes up to two years for the process.


19 posted on 12/01/2012 6:36:18 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Hojczyk

I have MS, I’ve never tried to apply because I have a job that accommodates my MS and I’m able to work from home. If I had to go into an office, then I probably would have to apply for disability (my work involves sitting in a recliner with a laptop.) I could not physically make it into an office each day.

But lots of folks in the MS community are denied. Seems to me that when they get a lawyer, they do get approved, but then the lawyer gets some huge percentage of the payback from SS.

I will say this, I know folks in the MS community, on disability, who would love to be able to work. They are only on disability because they can’t hold down a job due to their disability. I, personally, find my job a distraction from my disease, and I like that about it. It fills up my day, keeps my mind active, and I think that being on disability would make my life pretty boring. So I plan to work, Lord willing, until I absolutely can’t do it anymore.


20 posted on 12/01/2012 6:39:30 PM PST by memyselfandi59
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kinda in the same place myself. I have a bad back, bad shoulders, and lost the use of my vocal chords over a year ago. But even when my back trouble had me in a wheelchair I still was turned down. I’m trying to get help from the Department of Vocational Rehabilitation right now, but I don’t hold out much hope for that.

One of my doctors told me the story of a patient of his who had been in a car accident and was paralyzed, he could pretty much only move his eyes and eyebrows. It took 2 years of appeals before he got approved for disability.

Which is why I get doubly steamed when I see people doing nothing but partying and getting high while drawing SSI.


21 posted on 12/01/2012 7:10:11 PM PST by Ellendra (http://www.ustrendy.com/ellendra-nauriel/portfolio/18423/concealed-couture/)
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To: aquila48; potlatch

In a far corner of the women’s room in the interstate service area was a pull-down shelf for changing a baby. Instructions were in Braille. It baffles me how the disabled Mom ever got to that location. If she was accompanied, you’d think the helper could pull down the shelf, too.
I have a disabled grandson who uses a wheelchair, and appreciate accessibility, but some things do puzzle me.


22 posted on 12/01/2012 7:13:52 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: Ellendra

At my last apartment complex in Biloxi, MS they were cheek-to-jowl and all younger than me. Of course, they belonged to a different ethnic group than I do.


23 posted on 12/01/2012 7:19:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Have you tried one of those lawyers?


24 posted on 12/01/2012 7:28:18 PM PST by tiki
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To: Hojczyk

My wife is a pharmacy tech for Rite Aide and is furious about the moochers who get disability while the truly needy get denied. Some days she is so upset that I can’t stand to be around her.

The moochers are destroying this country faster than the providers can provide. I would guess we have less than 10 years before we have a total break down of our society altogether.


25 posted on 12/01/2012 7:48:32 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Get a lawyer and claim a drug dependency, you can get it. You probably won’t get it on any grounds without a lawyer


26 posted on 12/01/2012 11:06:55 PM PST by Figment
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To: Hojczyk
our local charities along with the local rag run a "Christmas fund" every year...

the other day ....front page...they featured this slob who is 34 and can't work and is on disability for degenerative disc disease....she stated that she's used the "fund" of 11 years now....and she just had another baby 11 months ago!

I'VE GOT DEGENERATIVE DISC DISEASE and why am I still working like a dog in a hospital?.....

wth is going on!

I'm going to be particularly uncharitable this year except to my family or friends that I know need help....the rest of this organized thievery can just bite my arse.

27 posted on 12/02/2012 11:52:35 AM PST by cherry
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To: Randy Larsen; All

Can you say “Cloward-Piven”?


28 posted on 12/02/2012 3:17:01 PM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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