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New legislative push for open carry gun law in Texas stirs emotions
news-journal.com ^ | 1 December, 2012 | Richard Yeakley

Posted on 12/01/2012 8:17:11 PM PST by marktwain

A sophomore Texarkana state representative caused a stir this week when he announced he would once again push for an open carry gun law when the legislative session convenes in January.

Rep. George Lavender hopes to spearhead legislation that would allow residents who have been approved for concealed-weapon carrying to carry holstered pistols in the open.

He was behind similar legislation that was not passed in the 2011 legislative session.

Texas is one of six states that forbids open carry in all forms.

“I definitely support open carry. The concealed handgun law to me is ridiculous... I am still carrying a gun on me, even if you don’t know. I honestly think open carry would be better because potential criminals could see right off ... Just the mere sight of a gun on a guy’s belt is a deterrent,” said Bob Godell, owner of The Gun Doctor in Longview.

Godell said firearms have been an important part of his life — so much that when he retired, he purchased the shop.

He said he has little tolerance for people who were more afraid if a gun was visible than concealed.

“It seems silly to me. Someone who has a weapon concealed is the same person with the same gun as someone who is open carrying. I see no purpose in hiding the fact that you are carrying the gun,” Godell said. “I would say, ‘Get over it.’ ”

Community activist Wray Wade said he was “100 percent against any type of open carry law.”

“An open carry law would only create more confusion in the gun control battle that exists now in this country,” Wade said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; lavender; opencarry; tx
Open carry for Texas is a step toward constitutional carry.
1 posted on 12/01/2012 8:17:18 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Gotta get rid of Dewhurst, first, or have someone put him in a political headlock.

/johnny

2 posted on 12/01/2012 8:19:16 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: marktwain

It’ll never happen until we depose the RINO speaker Straus the Louse.


3 posted on 12/01/2012 8:21:24 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

bump


4 posted on 12/01/2012 8:30:12 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: marktwain; All

“...create more confusion...” ???

What???

Is this Wade guy some sort of idiot??? Stoopid??? Or...Is he just skeered of those of us who do know what real situation is in this country...

Typical poster boy of the Hoplophobic community...

I’ve always been a supporter of Texas growing up, and eliminating the restrictions against carrying in this manner in this state...We’ve had the CHL system in place now for over 15 years...Most Texans have become accustomed to the idea of carrying a firearm for lawful, self-defensive purposes...


5 posted on 12/01/2012 8:36:09 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: fwdude
Amen, preach it brother.

We've got too many weak sisters in Austin.

Straus and Dewhurst need to ride off into the sunset in the general direction of their ranches.

/johnny

6 posted on 12/01/2012 8:40:19 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
It would be nice to have the option to carry either way. As it is, you have to worry about KEEPING it concealed.Not that it is difficult, but if the wrong person sees it, you may have a problem.

I would rather keep things as they are, than have them come back later and say only open carry will be allowed. I don't want to lose the option to carry "concealed".

7 posted on 12/01/2012 8:41:01 PM PST by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
I don't see even a faint possibility of the option of concealed carry going away, too many lawmakers are CCW holders.

Don't be afraid. Push for Constitutional Carry.

/johnny

8 posted on 12/01/2012 8:44:54 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: marktwain

Geez, enough with the irrational fear of firearms already.


9 posted on 12/01/2012 8:53:29 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Don't be afraid.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have something else hanging down to my knee.


10 posted on 12/01/2012 8:56:13 PM PST by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
Carrying open in New Mexico saved my life. It just grates on my soul like a washboard that Texas can't let me do the same without paperwork.

BTW, open carry didn't bother the State Trooper that was my neighbor when I was in NM. He borrowed it once, because he knew I had snake shot in it, and he didn't want to use his issue piece.

/johnny

11 posted on 12/01/2012 9:01:17 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
Oh, in case you don't know, open carry isn't always a hogleg. I'm certainly not going to lug that kind of weight around. ;)

When I open carry, it may or may not be observable, depending on what I'm wearing, and what kind of work I'm doing.

I shouldn't have to worry about it, given the second amendment.

/johnny

12 posted on 12/01/2012 9:05:37 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: marktwain

Good for Rep. George Lavender. I’m all for folks seeing big iron on my hip ;)


13 posted on 12/01/2012 9:10:03 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Oh, in case you don't know, open carry isn't always a hogleg. I'm certainly not going to lug that kind of weight around. ;)

I hear ya! It would be nice to carry without having to be concerned with keeping it hidden.

14 posted on 12/01/2012 9:16:57 PM PST by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: JRandomFreeper

Who is Dewhurst?


15 posted on 12/01/2012 9:23:51 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: DeepInTheHeartOfTexas

I agree whole-heartedly with you! I would like to have the option to carry either way. After all, some of our pretty dresses just wouldn’t look right with a holster strapped on.....know what I mean—LOL!


16 posted on 12/01/2012 9:35:46 PM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: DeepInTheHeartOfTexas

I agree whole-heartedly with you! I would like to have the option to carry either way. After all, some of our pretty dresses just wouldn’t look right with a holster strapped on.....know what I mean—LOL!


17 posted on 12/01/2012 9:36:07 PM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: marktwain

If,....if, I had a gun, I’d be all for this!!


18 posted on 12/01/2012 9:44:53 PM PST by FishinTX (Barak Obama HATES you.)
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To: marktwain
Texas should go the way of Vermont.

As it is, ya can carry a long gun in the open. There is some debate on 'how' the carry is so that 'alarm' is not raised. A simple sling should work and over the shoulder.

19 posted on 12/01/2012 9:47:06 PM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: Theoria

Its already legal to carry a long gun in the open in Texas


20 posted on 12/01/2012 9:54:28 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

I know, thats why I brought it up.


21 posted on 12/01/2012 9:56:56 PM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: Theoria

I must have misunderstood it, sorry


22 posted on 12/01/2012 10:14:16 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: marktwain

“Wait a minute. Wait a minute. No one’s saying you can’t carry a gun. All we’re saying is that you just can’t carry a gun in town. Is that so bad?” —Tombstone


23 posted on 12/01/2012 11:08:32 PM PST by onedoug
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To: marktwain

Idaho has open carry without a permit needed. Concealed carry needs a permit.


24 posted on 12/01/2012 11:46:39 PM PST by Smorgasbord
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To: marktwain

Sorry Mark, but it’s already DOA and everyone from the speaker to the lt. gov, and the gov have admitted as much. Got three minutes of news time though.


25 posted on 12/02/2012 1:04:10 AM PST by Melas (u)
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To: marktwain

I am sooooo tired of buying little guns.....


26 posted on 12/02/2012 3:21:13 AM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: marktwain
Open carry for Texas is a step toward constitutional carry.

Okay...I STILL don't get why everyone thinks open carry doesn't exist in Texas. The Texas Constitution already says 'open carry' is legal in section 23 of the Bill of Rights.

The declaratory clause:
Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the State;

The restrictive clause;
but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.

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The thing about the Law is that it cannot negate itself, so the restrictive clause only means the legislature can regulate HOW arms can be worn......not if they CAN BE worn.

To assume the restrictive clause can cancel the declaratory clause makes every written Constitution pointless!

27 posted on 12/02/2012 3:34:28 AM PST by MamaTexan (It is impossible to follow the Original Intent of the Constitution and NOT acknowledge secession)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

He is the Lieutenant Governor in TX.


28 posted on 12/02/2012 5:12:26 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: marktwain

With liberals common sense simply does not exist.

For example: If a thug was intent on robbing a store by violent means would he:

1. Walk in the store, look around for any signs of armed personnel and if none were seen, violently rob the store?

2. Walk in the store, look around for any signs of armed personnel and if one was seen, leave the store and find another one that fit rule #1?

The only way the thug could be sure of his decision would be by seeing a customer wearing a holder and a gun. Under concealed carry there would be no way for the thug to know and consequently, the robbery would go on.


29 posted on 12/02/2012 6:44:57 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Virginia is considered a “Gold State” for open carry.

I really like it because I can carry either way and if my jacket or shirt moves and my pistol is uncovered I can’t get arrested.

I carry open or concealed as my mood and circumstances dictate.


30 posted on 12/02/2012 7:50:14 AM PST by OldMissileer
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To: OldMissileer
I'm working toward Constitutional carry in Texas. No permit, open or concealed.

When I'm working outside in some places, I want my .38 with snake-shot on my hip, near to hand without running afoul of the law.

Moving to what Virginia has would be a step forward for Texas. But Constitutional Carry is my end game goal.

/johnny

31 posted on 12/02/2012 8:05:21 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Constitutional Carry is my end game goal.

I would like Constitutional Carry also, but I want it for every state so we do not run afoul of stupid laws while traveling/visiting.

Writing that, I do not want the Federal Government involved in any way. Having a Federal law would allow them to insinuate themselves even more into the situation and then they could start dictating terms. To the point where they could start narrowing the actual right into oblivion.

32 posted on 12/02/2012 8:20:44 AM PST by OldMissileer
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To: marktwain
I supported George Lavender based on his promise to deliver an open carry bill. George even e-mailed me on Thanksgiving day about it. And, he delivered on his promise.

This morning, I talked FTF with TX Sen Kevin Eltife's local aide and asked him to convey to Eltife that we, his constituents, want him to sponsor Lavender's bill in the Senate.

I prefer to carry concealed for tactical and social reasons -- but I don't accept being considered a criminal should I choose to reveal my weapon.

It's that simple.

33 posted on 12/02/2012 10:04:07 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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