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To: A_perfect_lady

I certainly see atheism as far more in tune ideologically with small-government libertarianism than Catholicism can claim to be.

I’m more dubious of Catholics who claim to be conservatives than atheists.

*cough* Michael Pfleger *cough*


36 posted on 12/02/2012 7:45:38 AM PST by RugerMini14
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To: RugerMini14

I do too. I mean, in a sense, Christianity is like a spiritual socialism. Instead of the rich man’s taxes paying for the poor man’s social services, it’s the spiritually rich man’s death that pays for the spiritually poor man’s sins. A really “conservative” religion would posit that you’ll burn in hell until your sins are paid for, and then when you deserve to go to heaven, you do. Pay your own way, you know? But... whatever. Humans are inconsistent creatures, by and large.


37 posted on 12/02/2012 8:31:19 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean. -Will Durant)
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To: RugerMini14
I found this book:
The Theme is Freedom:
Religion, Politics, and the American Tradition
by M. Stanton Evans
to be highly informative. It cites voluminous evidence in support of the proposition that John Locke, who anticipated the Declaration of Independence, in fact had much written Catholic thought to draw support from. Very interesting and impressive.
At the same time, the Catholic Church has plenty of history as an established religion used to a cozy relationship with the state.
But in reality socialism is a self-centered religion which promotes conceit and is a direct attack on, of all things, charity. Socialism claims to be charity, but it is a strange sort of “love” which puffs itself up and has the effect of denigrating the efforts which it does not control.

38 posted on 12/02/2012 9:13:01 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: RugerMini14

I was not aware that Michael Pfleger claimed to be a conservative.


46 posted on 12/02/2012 1:26:57 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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