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To: Kaslin

There is a certain kind of person who finds fault with everything you say. Anybody else know one of these?

And it’s because you’re a believer in Jesus. That’s the conclusion I’ve come to in my case, anyway. To agree you’re right about ANYTHING means you COULD be right about Jesus! Not everyone who disagrees with you now and then falls into this category, but some do. I try to nip these “friendships” in the bud when I recognize them. It can take a while to see them as what they are.

The great Kingsley Amis has a line about some character in one of novels “always looking for the first chance to go at cross purposes to me” in conversation—or somethng like that. Oh boy did that sound familiar. Of course in Kingley’s experience it probably had something to with contradicting the great Kingsley Amis.

I’ve also started coming to the conclusion that political differences are not fundamentally political differences—i.e., socialism versus free markets. They are basically atheist-versus-believer differences. After all, giving up atheism would mean you’d have to change your life in a very big, deep, meaningful way.

This is why we can’t abandon the social-conservative causes. Not in politics and not in our lives. They are the crux of the matter, not a tangential issue.


4 posted on 12/02/2012 4:11:03 AM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand
Leftists recoil from the image of Christ just as vampires metaphorically recoil from the cross because there is recognition of a mortal enemy, and one who is morally superior.

The leftist is a collectivist and the Christian is essentially an individualist. Salvation comes to us retail whereas acceptance by the group produces the this-worldly salvation for the collectivist. So the key to group acceptance is submission to the group and conformity. The great paradox of Christianity, its mystery, is that submission to Christ, the picking up of the cross and following, results in liberation and empowerment. So in Christianity the individual is liberated and empowered which is threatening to the group which seeks to empower the collective at the expense of the individual.

The miracle of individual liberation and empowerment in Christianity is not only anathema to the leftist but it is invisible to him. He believes that he alone is the master of his fate even though he is the victim of the greatest deception and is in a tragic and mortal bondage.

I could not agree with you more when you say:

I’ve also started coming to the conclusion that political differences are not fundamentally political differences—i.e., socialism versus free markets. They are basically atheist-versus-believer differences.


10 posted on 12/02/2012 4:39:07 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: firebrand
To agree you’re right about ANYTHING means you COULD be right about Jesus!

Wow! That might be it. That could explain some acquaintances of mine.

11 posted on 12/02/2012 4:46:02 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: firebrand
There is a certain kind of person who finds fault with everything you say. Anybody else know one of these?

Are you kidding? F.R. is infested with them.

12 posted on 12/02/2012 5:01:10 AM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: firebrand
I'm pro-America, pro-life, and pro-liberty and I've been an atheist all my days.

And you are welcome to believe as you choose. I'll never insult your faith and never have.

I don't have a problem with a nativity scene on the courthouse lawn, either. In Jefferson's great phrase, "It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg".

But when anyone says I can't be a conservative because I am not a Christian, that ticks me off big time and I will respond, sometimes (despite my best efforts) in anger.

26 posted on 12/02/2012 6:59:52 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Only liberals believe that people can be made virtuous via legislative enactment.)
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To: firebrand

You are absolutely correct. It all boils down to world-view.


29 posted on 12/02/2012 7:09:15 AM PST by Vor Lady (Everyone should read The Importance of the Electoral College by Geo. Grant)
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To: firebrand

I have seen that (even here) in exchanges with some who absolutely refuse to even allow any alternative and reasonable explanation of Scriptures which refutes their misconstrue which is used to justify their angry scorn and rage against God and the Bible.


42 posted on 12/02/2012 12:12:07 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: firebrand
After all, giving up atheism would mean you’d have to change your life in a very big, deep, meaningful way.

OK, I'm going to challenge you about that.

Suppose you were able to follow me around today in my daily routine with work and family.

And suppose that next week I were to give up atheism.

If you were to follow me around on a Monday sometime next month, what do you think you would observe about how my life had changed??

60 posted on 12/03/2012 5:10:13 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Only liberals believe that people can be made virtuous via legislative enactment.)
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