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The Sadistic Brutality of Englandís Government-Run Healthcare
Townhall.com ^ | December 2, 2012 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 12/02/2012 7:23:18 AM PST by Kaslin

I’m not easily grossed out or nauseated. Heck, I’m on email lists for a half-dozen softball teams and you can only imagine the strange/filthy/nasty things that guys send to each other.

But I read a story about the death panels in the United Kingdom that left me discombobulated. I can’t even begin to describe how I feel.

Here’s the intro of a disturbing report in the Daily Mail.

Sick children are being discharged from NHS hospitals to die at home or in hospices on controversial ‘death pathways’. Until now, end of life regime the Liverpool Care Pathway was thought to have involved only elderly and terminally-ill adults. But the Mail can reveal the practice of withdrawing food and fluid by tube is being used on young patients as well as severely disabled newborn babies.

And here are some of the horrifying details. Read at your own risk.

One doctor has admitted starving and dehydrating ten babies to death in the neonatal unit of one hospital alone. Writing in a leading medical journal, the physician revealed the process can take an average of ten days during which a  baby becomes ‘smaller and shrunken’. The LCP – on which 130,000 elderly and terminally-ill adult patients die each year – is now the subject of an independent inquiry ordered by ministers. …Earlier this month, an un-named doctor wrote of the agony of watching the protracted deaths of babies. …‘I know, as they cannot, the unique horror of witnessing a child become smaller and shrunken, as the only route out of a life that has become

 Grim Reaper with Kid

excruciating to the patient or to the parents who love their baby.’ …Bernadette Lloyd, a hospice paediatric nurse, has written to the Cabinet Office and the Department of Health to criticise the use of death pathways for children. She said: ‘The parents feel coerced, at a very traumatic time, into agreeing that this is correct for their child whom they are told by doctors has only has a few days to live. It is very difficult to predict death. I have seen a “reasonable” number of children recover after being taken off the pathway. …‘I have also seen children die in terrible thirst because fluids are withdrawn from them until they die. ‘I witnessed a 14 year-old boy with cancer die with his tongue stuck to the roof of his mouth when doctors refused to give him liquids by tube. His death was agonising for him, and for us nurses to watch. This is euthanasia by the backdoor.’

My first reaction is to hope that this story is wildly wrong, filled with exaggerations and lies.

My second reaction (and this is why I got so agitated) is to imagine what it must be like for the parents. They get talked into letting their kids die, which must be agonizing, and then (assuming they stick around) they have to watch them slowly starve to death or die of thirst. Wouldn’t it be better to just give your kid a fatal injection? Setting aside the moral issue of deciding to let a kid die because he’s disabled or something like that, doesn’t simple decency mean that death should be painless rather than agonizing?

My final reaction is to wonder what Paul Krugman would say about this scandalous neglect and mistreatment. During the Obamacare debate, he told us we could ignore stories about what was happening across the ocean, writing that “In Britain, the government itself runs the hospitals and employs the doctors. We’ve all heard scare stories about how that works in practice; these stories are false.” So I guess starving children don’t qualify as a scare story.

P.S. If you want more horror stories about government-run healthcare in the United Kingdom click here, here, here, here, herehereherehereherehereherehere, here and here.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; futureobamacare; greatbritain; healthcare; nhs; obamacare; obamacarefuture; socialism; uk; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 12/02/2012 7:23:21 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

ping


2 posted on 12/02/2012 7:29:25 AM PST by Taggart_D
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To: Kaslin

>>Wouldn’t it be better to just give your kid a fatal injection?

That is the plan. First, they offer the most horrible way to let people die “naturally” (as if withholding fluids is natural), then they offer the easy way out. But they let the family make the decision—once the system has decreed that death is going to happen one way or the other—so the system gets to keep its hands clean.

Its basically like the end of “Old Yeller” except that Old Yeller is your grandma or newborn baby.


3 posted on 12/02/2012 7:30:11 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Kaslin

Step one, come to grips with the fact that a socialist state does not concern itself with human suffering, for a number of reasons.


4 posted on 12/02/2012 7:36:59 AM PST by lurk
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To: Kaslin
Coming soon! Government-Run Healthcare!

With hit songs.. Old People Never Die, They Just Get In The Way, Never Hit Your Grandma In The Head With A Shovel, It Leaves A Bad Impression On Her Mind. Use Obamacare Instead, and Here Pelosi, Pelosi, Pelosi. Doctor, I lost my PELOSI (Palliative End of Life Optimum Serenity Initiative)

5 posted on 12/02/2012 7:39:13 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: All

“One death or two is a tragedy.. millions of dead is a statistic.” Obamacare.


6 posted on 12/02/2012 7:41:00 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Kaslin

bump


7 posted on 12/02/2012 7:41:42 AM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Kaslin

8 posted on 12/02/2012 7:41:56 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin
A lot of people paid no attention to Terri Schiavo. They seemed to think it didn't matter. It does. We will all have Terri Schiavo as a close relative, if not become Terri ourselves.

We've gone very, very wrong.

9 posted on 12/02/2012 7:42:19 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: Kaslin
I showed this to two of my friends who are both doctors in the UK.

They say that not only is the article accurate but only touches on a sick and depraved system. They went on to say that we better get ready for it here and that we are total idiots for not rejecting ANY form of goverment run "universal" health care.

That was verified by another doctor friend I have that now practices in Tenn. He is a former Soviet Army member who escaped to the USA. He says he escaped from the USSR to get away from what we are bringing here e.i. Government run health care and socialism / communism in general. He says we are absolute fools to let socialism creep into our society. BTW he HATES Obama and is ilk.

10 posted on 12/02/2012 7:44:34 AM PST by clamper1797 (I mourn for the America I grew up in ..fought for ..and loved ..July 4 1776- June 28 2012)
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To: Kaslin

bump


11 posted on 12/02/2012 7:44:53 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Kaslin
Stories like this put me in many minds

I have come too Close to Death
To be Afraid of It
It was more Fascinating than anything else.

I have Seen Too Many People Pass to
Not be Aware of the Suffering
Primarily, IMHO, due to struggling against what is

I am Convinced it is a God Thing
I Cannot Cause It without Great Harm
You Cannot Cause It without Great Harm

This Life is not Ours to Give or Take
For a time, We Have Stewardship

There will be an Accounting...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_talents_or_minas

12 posted on 12/02/2012 7:51:25 AM PST by HangnJudge
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I’m retired military and on TriCare. I have been sick for 8 weeks and until I went in a third time to tell them that my body was not winning the battle, they finally gave me a Z-Pak of antibiotics. The doctor actually had to go and get permission to do it. You should probably watch at how the retired military are going to get necessary medications/treatment more and more grudgingly to get a good idea of where we will be once Obomination Care is full implenmented...


13 posted on 12/02/2012 7:54:43 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: trebb
they finally gave me a Z-Pak of antibiotics.
The doctor actually had to go and get permission to do it.

Cipro is $4 at Walmart, and generally quite effective
Amoxicillin, Doxycycline, Bactrim
all good Antibiotics and 4$

14 posted on 12/02/2012 8:02:25 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Kaslin

Unfortunately, I’m not surprised.


15 posted on 12/02/2012 8:02:39 AM PST by Richard from IL
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To: Kaslin

This is what happens when people lose their courage. My God, if you are afraid to fight for your own baby’s life, then you have lost your humanity. This is why I hate illegal drugs. If you have to use illegal drugs to escape reality, then you are a coward. And one thing this country doesn’t need more of is cowards.


16 posted on 12/02/2012 8:03:11 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Travis McGee

That is SOOO stolen!!!

Thanks! :)


17 posted on 12/02/2012 8:10:53 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: Kaslin

We were watching “Undercover Boss” the other night. The UB went to Los Cabos and was talking with a native from there. She had a 2-YO and was working 2 jobs, as was her husband, to put together 2,000 USD to get an operation on the kid’s double hernia.

Mexico has a EU-style Socialized Medicine plan. We can see how that is working.


18 posted on 12/02/2012 8:14:39 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: Kaslin

thanks for posting


19 posted on 12/02/2012 8:20:07 AM PST by rotundusmaximus (1Kings19:18 Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baa)
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To: Kaslin

thanks for posting


20 posted on 12/02/2012 8:20:18 AM PST by rotundusmaximus (1Kings19:18 Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baa)
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