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South African farmers fearing for their lives
Telegraph ^ | 12/2/20112 | Telegraph

Posted on 12/02/2012 1:48:44 PM PST by Dallas59

Since the attack on Attie Potgieter and his family, the simple stone farmhouse where they lived has stood empty and crumbling, with nobody wanting to live in the home where one of South Africa's most disturbingly brutal crimes took place.

Mr Potgieter, a farm caretaker, was stabbed and hacked 151 times with a garden fork, a knife and a machete near Lindley in the Free State - the agricultural heart of the country.

His wife, Wilna, and two-year-old daughter, Willemien, were both made to watch him die, before being shot in the head, execution style.

All for pocket money, and possessions of relatively little value – a too-common story in South Africa's rural areas, where mostly white Afrikaner farmers feel they are being targeted in gratuitously violent attacks on their remote farms and smallholdings. They accuse police and government of failing to make these crimes a priority. And as the horrifying murders continue, they are growing increasingly angry.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: black; racism; safarmers; southafrica; white
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1 posted on 12/02/2012 1:48:57 PM PST by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

Aren’t these people allowed to carry guns? I’d rather kill a few of the literal ba$stards before being killed or watching my family die. As for kangaroo courts, again, I suppose I’d rather kill a $hitload of them, and die in the process rather than face their brand of justice. Just sayin’


2 posted on 12/02/2012 1:51:43 PM PST by john drake
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To: Dallas59

Because they were WHITE!


3 posted on 12/02/2012 1:52:43 PM PST by Salvey
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To: john drake

Just sayin’ quite well.
In SA whites now probably are not allowed guns.

For those who don’t or can’t defend themselves against holder’s people taking hints from the indo-kenyan, this could come here too.


4 posted on 12/02/2012 1:56:05 PM PST by X-spurt (Ted Cruz for President of the Republic of Texas)
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To: Dallas59

There is an occasional story about this, usually in the British press and almost never in the American press.

Compare that with the firestorm of publicity and anger at Apartheid.

Whites live separately from blacks—the whole world is angry.

Blacks murder whites—the world ignores it.

These problems will not be corrected until people recognize that ALL men are created equal, and should have equal opportunities, not special rights and privileges because they belong to a politically correct group.


5 posted on 12/02/2012 1:59:23 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Dallas59

It’s tough to have much sypathy for the farmers at this point. They had to see what happened to the former “bread basket of Africa” when the thugs took over and turned Rhodesia into Zimbabwe. They didn’t know the communist thugs who took over South Africa were likewise going to turn South Africa into Zimbabwe?

Those farmers should have run through the door without opening it first.

/perplexed head shake


6 posted on 12/02/2012 1:59:46 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Dallas59

It wasn’t for pocket money it was because they were white


7 posted on 12/02/2012 2:00:26 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Dallas59

Reparations by another name...coming soon to Amerika.


8 posted on 12/02/2012 2:03:37 PM PST by exPBRrat
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To: john drake

>>Aren’t these people allowed to carry guns?

Technically, yes, but it takes more than 2 years to get a license to own one. It won’t matter anyway. When the white farmers in Zimbabwe, under the same conditions, armed themselves, Mugabe sent in the army to disarm them so none of HIS people got hurt while killing the farmers.


9 posted on 12/02/2012 2:04:31 PM PST by vikingd00d (chown -R us ./base)
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To: john drake

No guns allowed in the Land of Mandela. Whites best learn to suck it up, take their hacking like a man, and pray the end is swift.


10 posted on 12/02/2012 2:07:34 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: john drake

No guns allowed in the Land of Mandela. Whites best learn to suck it up, take their hacking like a man, and pray the end is swift.


11 posted on 12/02/2012 2:07:34 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: john drake

No guns allowed in the Land of Mandela. Whites best learn to suck it up, take their hacking like a man, and pray the end is swift.


12 posted on 12/02/2012 2:07:54 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: john drake

No guns allowed in the Land of Mandela. Whites best learn to suck it up, take their hacking like a man, and pray the end is swift.


13 posted on 12/02/2012 2:08:12 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: Dallas59

bookmark


14 posted on 12/02/2012 2:09:32 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: JonPreston

I’m so sorry. Once is enough.


15 posted on 12/02/2012 2:09:42 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: Lancey Howard

these white farmers are trying to run to the U.S.
so are some Christian church workers that I know who are white AND OBAMA will not allow them in the U.S. even though middle eastern muslims, black Somali muslims, Mexicans, and South Americans are allowed in here in droves.


16 posted on 12/02/2012 2:12:04 PM PST by doc maverick
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To: john drake

“Just sayin’

Nah, you said it correctly and should not be ashamed of it. I thought you were one of these limp-wrist Freepers with a hint of liberal white guilt. F these animal bastards and I would shoot them in the face with gusto. This is happening in America as we speak anyways.


17 posted on 12/02/2012 2:12:57 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Dallas59
Africa Wins Again...
18 posted on 12/02/2012 2:16:17 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: doc maverick

two of my frat brothers in university were S A. One of them even told me he witnessed a black scum machete a white dude for not giving him a job. He also told me he could count in two hands how many white people actually like Mandela as he was the lead perp in allowing this racist sh*t to go on. He’s very active in NRA circles in his area..


19 posted on 12/02/2012 2:17:33 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: exPBRrat

Exactly. When I learned of the demographic shifts taking place in America several years ago, I began prepping accordingly(aggressively excercising my 2nd Ammendment rights) and did so long before the run on guns started during the run up to 2008 election. I’m convinced anyone unarmed in this coming society in America is as good as dead. Lock and load while you still can.


20 posted on 12/02/2012 2:24:11 PM PST by MachIV
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To: X-spurt

“For those who don’t or can’t defend themselves against holder’s people taking hints from the indo-kenyan, this could come here too....”

The media does not report it....There are whites being targeted here already because they are white.....Blacks always attack in packs like dogs....The victim is always grossly outnumbered.......In Melbourne, FL just walking down the street, a car stops and FIVE black men jump out, attack ONE white man and said it was for Trayvon.....Alabama, an estimated over FIFTY blacks attack a man on his own front porch.....Both ended up in intensive care from what I heard.....There are tons of instances, but they do not make the news......The media will not cover black on white crime.....I never felt comfortable with the idea of armed protection, but feeling helpless at the hands of crud like what is running around in America now, I had no choice but to arm myself.....I hate I am listed as having a gun now though......


21 posted on 12/02/2012 2:26:55 PM PST by 3722535r
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To: Lancey Howard
Lancey,

It's tough to walk away from your home, your work, your friends, your country, and the life your family has had for decades, or even generations.

And rebuilding your life, probably with limited money, in a new country, with perhaps a new language, well, that's about as daunting as it gets to any family man over 35 years old.

In hindsight, sure, you're 100% right.

But the “liberation” of SA was accompanied by international optimism and mixed race jubilees where whites and Blacks vowed to work together for a free and prosperous South Africa.

It was a complete fraud, but it's easy to understand why so many whites drank the Kool Aid.

22 posted on 12/02/2012 2:51:50 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: MachIV
If you notice the elites demand population diversity in Europe and North America until whites become a minority in their own countries. You don't see a demand for ethnic diversity in say Nigeria,Kenya,China or Saudi Arabia. In South Africa whites are considered colonial invaders who ideally need to disappear to make South Africa 100% black that is acceptable population diversity.
I can't help but notice that every white majority country is expected to import and support enough "immigrants" to overwhelm the native population or they are considered racist. One can't help but conclude that there is a war on white people. Reminds me of the world elite's hatred for a certain middle eastern country and their demand that they commit national suicide.
23 posted on 12/02/2012 2:53:16 PM PST by bonehead4freedom
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To: bonehead4freedom

“One can’t help but conclude that there is a war on white people.”

Yes, and the sad part is that it is being waged by white people, the black thugs who do the actually violence are basically foot soldiers.

It disgusts me. I hope I live to see it end, but I doubt I will. But believe me, one day it will end.


24 posted on 12/02/2012 3:41:28 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Dallas59

those poor down trodden blacks have been killing white familys since they took over the country with the assistance of the rest of the world. The land is then given to a black south african who doesn’t know jack about farming and they are having a food problem...I remember when the rest of the countries boycotted anything from whites not even buying their gold coins....This is not news, but no one cares that whites are being pushed off their land and butchered....4 generations ago when the (I think Dutch) landed there, there was nothing, they built up the country...


25 posted on 12/02/2012 3:59:18 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Dallas59

An illustration of the fate of a people that abdicate their right to govern.


26 posted on 12/02/2012 4:13:44 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: 3722535r

I hate I am listed as having a gun now though......

I hate that I couldn’t have one before I was 8!!!!!
I hate I can’t afford to have a hundred now.


27 posted on 12/02/2012 4:20:09 PM PST by X-spurt (Ted Cruz for President of the Republic of Texas)
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To: exPBRrat

“Reparations by another name...coming soon to Amerika.’

It is already here.


28 posted on 12/02/2012 4:47:12 PM PST by Soul of the South
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To: Salvey

Democrats have their ‘pet’ illegal groups - we should have ours. Texas could be a ‘sancuary’ state for white African farmers - the fact that they’ll vote Republican is only something a ‘hater’ would notice... We’ll call them ‘immigrants’ rather than illegals. I wonder if liberals will support our great tolerance for diversity?


29 posted on 12/02/2012 4:52:21 PM PST by GOPJ (The economy is so bad MSNBC had to lay off 300 Obama spokesmen - Leno)
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To: doc maverick

This is why a growing number of South African farmers are moving to Belarus.


30 posted on 12/02/2012 4:57:34 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Lancey Howard

At least some of them have been denied residence here. One was the wife of a conservative opinion journalist. They became angry afterward, and it showed in some of their articles after that. I don’t know any other details and withhold their names due to controversies and their desire for privacy on the matter.


31 posted on 12/02/2012 5:11:03 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: john drake
“Aren’t these people allowed to carry guns?”

No. The Marxist ANC disarmed the white farmers some time ago.

32 posted on 12/02/2012 5:13:00 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: X-spurt

No, Whites are not allowed guns legally and if a gun is used in self defense, a long prison jag can be expected. Take a wild guess at the jury makeup.

I work with a bunch of folks from SA and southern Africa...the place is out of control.


34 posted on 12/02/2012 5:29:10 PM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: Chode

Chode, you must have spent some time in Africa...when I worked in eastern Africa for two years, AWA was the most used descriptive phrase.


35 posted on 12/02/2012 5:31:17 PM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: Cuttnhorse
i first heard it from a guy i used to work with from SA... and later from an essay by Kim DuToit
36 posted on 12/02/2012 5:42:21 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Cicero

Blacks in Africa are the most racist of all. And they are proud of their culture and heritage.

They have traditions in their cultures that exist today.
One is genocide.
If we look around Africa, some where there is one going on today, right now.

Are you suggesting that we should be equal and have genocides here in America?


37 posted on 12/02/2012 5:46:22 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Dallas59

“Freeeeeeeeee Nelson Mandela........Freeeeeeeeee Nelson Mandela.”


38 posted on 12/02/2012 5:47:23 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Cicero

and voodoo.

pass me some kidney pie, will ya?


39 posted on 12/02/2012 5:47:23 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Lancey Howard

Esay to say and harder to do. Imagine if a race riot broke out here-where would you expect the older white people to flee to in time to save their lives?


40 posted on 12/02/2012 5:48:46 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Lancey Howard

Easy to say and harder to do. Imagine if a race riot broke out here-where would you expect the older white people to flee to in time to save their lives?


41 posted on 12/02/2012 5:49:06 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: john drake

Sounds like the white farmers need to be massively armed, legal or not. There’s bound to be a way to get guns to them; maybe we could convince our esteemed Justice Department that arming the farmers of South Africa will help “gun control” in the USA.


42 posted on 12/02/2012 6:20:18 PM PST by Nellie Wilkerson
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To: X-spurt
You better believe it ,, Holders people do whatever they want ,,, even against their own with impunity ... Hey you may even get a Nobel Peace Prize (may Muhammads grace be upon you) for burning your own people to death with a diesel filled tire around their shoulders Like Nelson and Winnie Mandella were so fond of ...


43 posted on 12/02/2012 6:36:37 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Amberdawn
Easy to say and harder to do. Imagine if a race riot broke out here-where would you expect the older white people to flee to in time to save their lives?

???

They've only had 18 freaking years to cash out and get out.

44 posted on 12/02/2012 7:18:45 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Neither the Dutch nor British will take them. They prefer to import Muslims.


45 posted on 12/02/2012 8:53:08 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Dallas59

There are 5 million whites in South Africa. If the Dutch and British wont take them, we should. Then let South Africa collapse into Zimbabwe on the cape.


46 posted on 12/02/2012 8:58:03 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Lancey Howard

O.K. LH, YOU’VE been warned after 4 years of Obama, so why are you still here?


47 posted on 12/02/2012 9:25:44 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

Good question.
But I AM armed to the teeth.


48 posted on 12/02/2012 10:21:40 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Dallas59
South African farmers fearing for their lives

The savages have been on their killing spree since 1994. That's 18 years of practice, and their descent into barbarism continues.

In only 18 years they have managed to undo a couple of hundred years of civilization.

But they are all free. In the same sense as worms and armadillos are free.
After all, that's paramount.

49 posted on 12/02/2012 10:32:13 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Lancey Howard

I’m working on it myself. Best of luck to you and your’s.


50 posted on 12/02/2012 10:40:00 PM PST by Amberdawn
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