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Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah: Now, we have a state
Jerusalem Post ^ | 12/02/2012 17:2 | By KHALED ABU TOAMEH

Posted on 12/02/2012 2:14:28 PM PST by F15Eagle

PA president vows to pursue efforts to end the split between Gaza, West Bank, dedicates UN "victory" to late PA president Arafat.

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas Sunday vowed to pursue efforts to end the split between the West Bank and Gaza and thanked Hamas and all Palestinian groups for supporting his statehood bid at the UN.

Abbas, who was speaking to thousands of supporters in Ramallah during a rally organized by the PA to celebrate the UN General Assembly's vote in favor of upgrading the status of the Palestinians to non-member observer state, said he would focus his efforts now on "restoring unity of the Palestinians and their lands and institutions."

The crowd, which consisted mostly of PA civil servants and Fatah activists, responded by chanting, "We want national unity!" and "With blood and soul, we redeem Abu Mazen [Abbas]."

In the coming days, Abbas said, "We will study accelerating moves to achieve reconciliation [with Hamas]."

Abbas hailed the outcome of the UN vote as an "historic achievement," adding that November 29 has become a "decisive turning point in our national struggle."

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abbas; hamas; israel; palestinestatehood; unitednations; waronterror
Just hang loose, Abbas.

The Antichrist will come along and confirm a seven-year covenant of 'peace' which you will hail, too.

Then the False Prophet will require the world to take 666 to buy and sell, damning many souls forever.

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I don't know what the timetable is folks, but this seems a teensy step towards the conclusion of this thing.

1 posted on 12/02/2012 2:14:32 PM PST by F15Eagle
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2 posted on 12/02/2012 2:16:57 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

With a State comes responsibility, I would not want to be responsible for shelling civilians in their homes like Abbas is guilty of.


3 posted on 12/02/2012 2:32:51 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: F15Eagle

Just think, now a rocket fired from Gaza is no longer an act of a “freedom fighter” but an act of War.

Stupid Muslims, had it made in the shade as an “occupied people”. Now, they have to act like adults, or suffer the consequences.


4 posted on 12/02/2012 2:34:51 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: F15Eagle

Now that they are a “state”...the next rocket attack from the pals and Israel can declare war on Palestine.


5 posted on 12/02/2012 2:35:37 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: American in Israel

I don’t disagree, but to put a precise link on it —— did they include Gaza in this?

I must admit I didn’t see that specifically but I wasn’t looking for it -— was only thinking of the West Bank.

I mean I know they want “contiguous” and all that.

TIA for any info.


6 posted on 12/02/2012 2:38:40 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: American in Israel

While technically true, rockets fired in the same manner as before the Palestinians “achieved statehood” will never be considered acts of war except by Israel and US conservatives - most of whom already do so. It’ll be a distinction without a different for that reason.


7 posted on 12/02/2012 2:39:22 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: American in Israel
Since the Pali’s now have a state, can Israel declare full war on the state with the next attack? Or could they just cut all power to the Gaza Strip?

Israel-Provides 125 MW to the Gaza Strip based on 10 electricity lines (12.5 MW each line). Total constitutes is 62% of the electricity supplied in the Gaza Strip.

8 posted on 12/02/2012 2:44:52 PM PST by SledgeCS (Good Men Died. Obama Lied. Impeach the LYING COWARD!!!)
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To: F15Eagle
Now, we have a state

Good, now Israel can protect itself from acts of war, blow up your capitol, armories, power and communications utilities, and conquer your military.

Then as a further measure of protection, they can annex your territory.

9 posted on 12/02/2012 2:47:00 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: F15Eagle

Abbas is a “state” like I’m the King of Prussia

(it is amazing how delusional these murderous thugs are...)


10 posted on 12/02/2012 2:49:37 PM PST by faithhopecharity (--)
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To: F15Eagle

Hussein told us in 2011 that a return to the 1967 border was his goal ?


11 posted on 12/02/2012 3:19:00 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: F15Eagle

Neato. I guess this means if I shove a rainbow flagpole up my ass, I can get the UN to declare me Fudgepackervania.


12 posted on 12/02/2012 3:29:38 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: george76

Hessein received the Nobel Peace Prize for “future middle east peace” among other things. Whether he can “achieve” that remains to be seen but of note ....


I don’t think the AC is a sitting US Prez because of the Scripture - but fwiw, lot of odd stuff surrounding this guy. Weird - just follow the links. I can’t link directly to the lottery results so you have to select 2008. Just odd stuff.


Abbas was the first foreign leader Obama called from the WH after taking office - for a Pali state, dividing Israel.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2169189/posts

http://tinyurl.com/86689ls - Obama’s Curious Support for Palestinian Statehood

Obama spending $300 million for ‘Palestinian state’

http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/obama-spending-300-million-for-palestinian-state/


Illinois lottery hit 666 the exact same day CNN called Obama, the junior senator from Illinois, “president of the world”. Bizarre coincidences.

11/05/2008: CNN: Barack Obama is ‘President of the world’

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/05/international.press.reaction/

11/05/2008: Illinois Evening Pick 3 6-6-6

http://www.illinoislottery.com/en-us/winning-number-search-year.html


Obama’s armored Cadillac is called “The Beast”

The same name the Bible gives the Antichrist

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45376000/jpg/_45376603_cadillac_466.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1389825/Obamas-Beast-Cadillac-flown-US-London-drive-Mall.html

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2013:4&version=KJV


Antichrist will confirm a seven-year false peace with Israel which divides the land of Israel

http://youtu.be/e6HF_8axllQ?t=38s

(The video is titled “End Times in the Words of Jesus” and you can find it at Amazon in VHS and DVD format).

http://www.amazon.com/The-End-Times-Words-Jesus/dp/B0000CBXYN


13 posted on 12/02/2012 3:30:09 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

type s/b Hussein


14 posted on 12/02/2012 3:31:16 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

A little take-off on the old you say potato, I say potato verse.

You say state, and I say s-hole, never the twain shall meet.

The Arabs on the West Bank and Gaza are a real hoot. They act this way as if their plight is going to increase one iota under their draconian leadership.

They can reference the areas they inhabit as an interstellar worm-hole for all I care. It’s still going to remain a pit, until they change their personal world view and start acting like civilized people on the global stage.


15 posted on 12/02/2012 4:03:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: F15Eagle
Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah: Now, we have a state

Finally, something to declare war on. /s

16 posted on 12/02/2012 4:10:42 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: F15Eagle

What Abbas has is a piece of paper,not a State.A piece of paper from the UN,for what it’s worth.


17 posted on 12/02/2012 5:03:44 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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“What Abbas has is a piece of paper,not a State.A piece of paper from the UN,for what it’s worth.”

Precious, PRECIOUS piece of paper, for with statehood comes responsibilities.

That UN “Statehood” paper is really a Palisimian Hunting License - with no season, bag limit, or minimum. It is also a Hunting License of all Muslims who participate in or aid the Palsimians in their attacks on Israel.

Que up: “A hunting we shall go, a hunting we shall go, ....”


18 posted on 12/02/2012 6:15:52 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Personal Responsibility
The Palestinian Liberation Organization has been hiding under the Geneva Convention laws protecting an “occupied people”. They under that law are not a valid military targets. But now, they are their own state. They have their own territory, and just like Mexico firing artillery into the USA, Israel would have NO restrictions to response, including full scale war.

Least, that's how I understood it back when I lived there. Perhaps they came up with some convoluted reasoning that says its OK to kill civilians with military rockets, as long as they are not Muslims and are Jews.

19 posted on 12/02/2012 6:37:10 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: F15Eagle
My solution for the Palestinian state problem is to round up these idiots in Gaza and the West Bank and deport them to Antarctica where they can form their new state. Of course, the living conditions in Antarctica are a bit of an issue but I'm sure the UN will be happy to help them adjust by supplying ice picks and shovels.
20 posted on 12/03/2012 12:12:52 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: F15Eagle
Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah: Now, we have a state

Or a stationary target.

21 posted on 12/03/2012 4:30:07 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: American in Israel

Like I said in my original post: The distinction is definitely true but there will not be a functional difference.
If the palestinians keep raining down rockets and bombs, logic would dictate the UN / world opinion call it an act of war and respond accordingly / encourage Israel to respond accordingly.

The world will not suddenly jump to Israel’s side of the argument. They will ignore that portion of “statehood” and continue to blame the Israelis for being aggressive.


22 posted on 12/03/2012 6:29:28 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: F15Eagle

what is interesting is that Hamas and Gaza may break off and be absorbed by Egypt. That would be a good outcome


23 posted on 12/03/2012 7:22:47 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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