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(Cliff maker) Pelosi warns ‘clock is ticking,’ threatens House vote on tax rates
The Hill ^ | 12/02/12 | Molly K. Hooper

Posted on 12/02/2012 2:26:23 PM PST by Libloather

Pelosi warns ‘clock is ticking,’ threatens House vote on tax rates
By Molly K. Hooper - 12/02/12 12:37 PM ET

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) on Sunday repeated threats to file a “discharge petition” and force a House vote to extend current tax rates for households making under $250,000 a year.

The Senate has already approved extending those rates, but the House GOP objects to the measure, instead calling for all of the expiring Bush-era tax rates to be extended across-the-board.

In order to bypass the House majority party's right to schedule floor votes, the California Democrat would need to garner 218 signatures, including more than 20 Republicans, to overcome the legislative hurdle.

In a statement released Sunday morning, Pelosi threatened to do just that: “If Speaker Boehner refuses to schedule this widely-supported bill for a vote, Democrats will introduce a discharge petition to automatically bring to the floor the Senate-passed middle class tax cuts."

The Democratic leader warned that time was running out for Boehner to act. “We must find a bold, balanced and fair agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. The clock is ticking and stalemates are a luxury we cannot afford,” she said.

Pelosi first suggested the discharge-petition maneuver on Friday as Democrats looked to increase pressure on Republicans to allow tax rates on the wealthy to rise in a deficit-reduction deal.

Many Republicans believe that they will lose their leverage in negotiations with the Democratic-controlled Senate and President Obama to cut spending and enact an overhaul of the tax code, if they give in on the demand to support a bill extending tax cuts only for the middle class.

Last week, Boehner shot down an idea proffered by his colleague Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.) to extend the current tax rates for all but the top two percent of Americans who make more than $250,000 and negotiate on higher-income tax brackets later.

Lawmakers hope to agree to a deficit deal to avoid the automatic spending cuts and tax hikes set to take place on January 1st and Republicans see their tax stance as providing key leverage to push for steeper spending cuts and entitlement reforms.

On Thursday, Treasury Secretary Geithner presented lawmakers with the initial administration offer, which included $1.6 trillion in tax increases and $400 billion in cuts to entitlement spending.

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) quickly rejected the plan, saying he was “flabbergasted” when he saw the proposal.

Geithner on Sunday, though, defended the White House offer and said the GOP needed to make the next move. “I think right now, the best thing to do is for them to come to us and say, look, here's what we think makes sense,” said Geithner.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clock; house; pelosi; taxes
Is this idiot still in charge of something?
1 posted on 12/02/2012 2:26:27 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Hey Pelousy, check the scoreboard, you don’t have the votes...file all the petitions you want.


2 posted on 12/02/2012 2:27:34 PM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Mouton

Bring it, drumhead face.


3 posted on 12/02/2012 2:32:02 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Libloather

Nanny “thinks” she is in charge of something. Don’t blame her for the confusion...Boehner is such a whimp.


4 posted on 12/02/2012 2:32:56 PM PST by madison10 (“Obama’s fools and Stalin’s fools share the same drink of illusion.” ~~Pravda)
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To: Libloather

hasn’t Pelousy done America enough damage (ObamaCare, nobody allowed to read it until it is passed, etc.)

When will this nice lady retire?????? I mean, she could use the free time, lots of it, to reconcile herself with the Church, just for starters.....


5 posted on 12/02/2012 2:34:08 PM PST by faithhopecharity (--)
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To: Libloather

For 10 or more years since the 2003 tax cuts the Democrats claimed that the tax cuts were “only for the rich” while the Republicans said nothing in reponse. And now the dumbass Republicans have allowed the Democrats make it look as though it’s the Republicans who want to raise taxes on the low and middle income.

Good grief the GOP is frikin’ dumb.


6 posted on 12/02/2012 2:35:43 PM PST by avacado
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To: Libloather

“I want to be relevant, I want to be important.”


7 posted on 12/02/2012 2:37:05 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: faithhopecharity

She could take up a church mission clothing the naked on the streets in SF.


8 posted on 12/02/2012 2:37:34 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian
that would be a fine start for her, yes indeed! A fitting beginning at, we would hope, a genuine repentance and reconciliation...

She should, of course, use some of her OWN multi- millions of wealth ... for a change... perhaps she could sell her very valuable vineyard/home in the Wine Country to raise funds for the poor...(Matthew 19:21/Luke 18:22)

9 posted on 12/02/2012 2:42:31 PM PST by faithhopecharity (--)
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To: faithhopecharity

of course, not all the naked people in San Francisco WANT to be clothed,,,

http://blog.sfgate.com/cityinsider/2012/10/30/naked-guys-and-gals-stage-nude-in-at-city-hall/


10 posted on 12/02/2012 2:44:28 PM PST by faithhopecharity (--)
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To: Libloather

So how many votes do you have again, Nanny?


11 posted on 12/02/2012 2:45:23 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Libloather

Hey Nazi...stfu.


12 posted on 12/02/2012 2:48:58 PM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: Libloather

BIG GOVERNMENT IS CRONY SOCIALISM. “Socialism Is Legal Plunder” - Bastiat

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Questions?

FUNP


13 posted on 12/02/2012 3:02:50 PM PST by PGalt
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To: madison10
Boehner is such a whimp.

Hey. Hey. I know several whimps and it is totally unfair to lump them in with the idot Boehner. Oh, wait, I know several idiots also. Well, then let's call Bo-hoe what he is . . . . . . . . . There. That is better.

14 posted on 12/02/2012 3:06:28 PM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: Libloather; sickoflibs
ole nan is an evil bitch, but she sure knows how to push an agenda...

and realistically, she very well could get 20 'R' votes and make boner cry, and get all the credit for the middle class tax 'cuts' coming down the pipe...

15 posted on 12/02/2012 3:28:43 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Libloather

I think the House should absolutely give in and extend the rates for the middle class. How that loses leverage is beyond me, they are going to lose most constituent support making average families pay 2,000 more in taxes next year.


16 posted on 12/02/2012 3:33:39 PM PST by erlayman
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To: Libloather

This beyatch asserts that she is still driving the boat on a regular basis - and she may very well be, for all the opposition is worth.


17 posted on 12/02/2012 3:47:50 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: erlayman
I think the House should absolutely give in and extend the rates for the middle class. How that loses leverage is beyond me, they are going to lose most constituent support making average families pay 2,000 more in taxes next year.

Congratulations. One of the kookiest things I've read on Free Republic in the last 12 years, and that's saying something.

18 posted on 12/02/2012 3:51:45 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: morphing libertarian

She might do that but only if she didn’t have to spend any of her multi-millions to buy the clothes, but got them ‘free’ from the government.


19 posted on 12/02/2012 3:54:54 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Libloather

The Republicans have the majority. They should tell Mrs. P. to go away. They should never even consider negotiating with her nor her associates once they read what was in those democrat bills. The Media is the state controlled arm of Obama’s transformation lie and agenda. Let’s see how/if our team goes around Nancy to do the right thing for Americans. Will Nancy and her media win...Let’s see who has the most guts. ( the socialist or the ones who are suppose to be a patriot)


20 posted on 12/02/2012 3:58:58 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Libloather

I imagine this ditzy bimbo wants another one of those infamous ‘RAT bills that you have to pass before you can find out what is in it. A Box of Cracker Jack Bill, if you will.


21 posted on 12/02/2012 4:27:37 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't tax me bro! Tax that guy over there!)
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To: Libloather

Pass the Ryan bill again and shove it down their throats...


22 posted on 12/02/2012 4:28:14 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (Us and Them...)
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To: Libloather

I believe that the botox injections have finally settled in her brain.
The only thing crazier than Nancy is the constituants that have re-elected her.


23 posted on 12/02/2012 5:16:29 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt ("You never want a crisis to go to waste..."- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

She’s coming up 73 and looks all of it. Her brain is likely failing and she should let someone younger run for her seat.
Hopefully the public, even in SF, doesn’t want or need a 75 or 77 year old representing the people. She’s OLD!


24 posted on 12/02/2012 5:25:21 PM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: Libloather

Why would Nancy Pelosi care one bit about the middle class? She doesn’t. This is just theater to try and scare the Republicans. The Republicans should just say that the tax increases were demanded by the Democrats and while they hate going along with the Democrats, it’s obvious that the President and the Democrats truly want them. I’d even get all the Republicans out on the lawn and have them hold hands and sing WE ARE THE WORLD.
The Democrats are like 8 year old kids threatening to run away. Just look sad at them and say, “We’re going to miss you.”
The Democrat leaders know that all those Democrat government workers are middle class and they have screwed up and raised taxes on them coming into an election cycle where more Democrat Senators are up for re-election than Republican Senators.


25 posted on 12/02/2012 5:35:16 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: erlayman
The income tax is just another failed government program and should be abolished ~ that's the only correct Conservative position on the matter.

Now, it's unfortunate that it exists, but it does, so we have to NOT use it as a weapon in class warfare, or allow the Democrats to do that.

26 posted on 12/02/2012 5:54:10 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Libloather

What unrelated bill did the Senate commandeer in order to pass a revenue bill, in contradiction of the constitutional mandate that all such bills originate in the house.

And how did they get this senate bill past without a filibuster — which republicans went along with this extra-constitutional manuever?


27 posted on 12/02/2012 6:04:53 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Libloather

“The clock is ticking” and Botox has its limits.


28 posted on 12/02/2012 6:09:04 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: elkfersupper

Talk about a long game. The republicans essentially screwed themselves when they passed a bill in 2001 that expired.

Which it did because they were trying to show how they would be good stewards, unlike the democrats.

If they had simply passed a bill that didn’t pay for itself, like the democrats do all the time, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

Remember, this was a bill that was supported by all the anti-tax groups back in 2001. So frankly, I don’t see how anybody should be upset, this is what the bill they passed was designed to do.

We have two choices, in my opinion. Either we put our own proposal together, pass it, and then say “it is either this or the cliff”, and see what happens, or we completely give in, and pass exactly what the president has proposed, and then spend the next two years clearly articulating exactly what the negatives were in that bill, and how it is ALL THE DEMOCRATS FAULT.


29 posted on 12/02/2012 6:09:43 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Libloather

Hey Nancy (aka wicked witch of the west),

Do you realize that you are not in charge of the House? Did that little fact pass you by? Remember 2010? Remember handing over the gavel?


30 posted on 12/02/2012 6:10:43 PM PST by logic101.net (Was Orwell wrong about anything besides the date?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
What unrelated bill did the Senate commandeer in order to pass a revenue bill, in contradiction of the constitutional mandate that all such bills originate in the house.

And how did they get this senate bill past without a filibuster — which republicans went along with this extra-constitutional manuever?

It was HR 3590, the Service Members Home Ownership Tax Bill of 2009. This was not a new technique by the way -- it's not uncommon for a bill passed by the House to be commandeered to be commandeered by the Senate in this manner.

As to the filibuster, recall that Scott Brown -- "the 41st vote against Obamaqcare" -- had been elected, but not seated. The GOP only had 40 Senators at the time and was unable to mount a filibuster.

Indeed, the only Republican legislator to ever vote for Obamacare was Olympia Snowe -- who voted for it in Committee, because "an important piece of legislation like this needs to reach the floor and be debated". She voted against it on the floor -- but it was her vote that got it out of committee.

31 posted on 12/02/2012 6:17:34 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: Libloather

Watching the distracting dog and pony show that is our Congress creating and then solving this fiscal crisis would be most-amusing were it not real.

Please help the naive - an obamanation such as ObamaCare was literally shoved down the throats of the American people through Congressional procedural loopholes. How is it that the Democrats are not able to do exactly the same thing with these tax increases? Why are they not able to do anything that they please using the same procedures?

Tin foil hat alert - I am postulating that most of these debates center around job justification for politicians, along with a run out the clock strategy designed to keep the ignorant population lost and confused. Things that are major that both parties want, but have to maintain appearances on, such as ObamaCare, are rammed through the system against the rules/law/Constitution. Things that are important, but not so major, such as the fiscal cliff, get debated ad naseum drawing people’s minds to mush before a compromise is reached that further removes freedom from the people.

My concern for our Nation is at an all-time high. The heart of Freedom is barely breathing.


32 posted on 12/02/2012 8:40:42 PM PST by cliniclinical (space for rent)
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To: Libloather

Communist Obamanation File.


33 posted on 12/02/2012 8:45:27 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Hotlanta Mike
"Pass the Ryan bill again and shove it down their throats..."

Ding ding ding ding......We have a winner!!!

34 posted on 12/03/2012 5:21:18 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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