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Web access battles brew before UN conference
Google ^ | 11/27/12 | AP

Posted on 12/02/2012 4:58:02 PM PST by Ron C.

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — An upcoming U.N. gathering about Internet oversight is raising alarms from a broad coalition of critics, including the U.S., tech giants such as Google and rights groups, concerned that changes could lead to greater efforts to censor Web content and stifle innovation in cyberspace.

Among the issues on the agenda at next month's meeting in Dubai are ideas to battle Internet spam and fraud. But also tucked into more than 1,300 proposals are potential hot-button items that opponents believe could be used by in places such as Iran and China to justify their crackdowns on bloggers and other Web restrictions.

Another likely battle when the meeting begins Dec. 3 is over European-backed suggestions to change the pay structure of the Web to force content providers — such as Google Inc., Facebook Inc. and others — to kick in an extra fee to reach users across borders.

It's unclear what proposals will emerge from the 11-day meeting of the U.N.'s 193-nation International Telecommunications Union, or ITU. The preliminary jockeying highlights the tensions of the Internet age between what to regulate and what to leave alone. The outcome could affect billions of Internet users.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: un; unoversight; unoversteps
Other articles have appeared here on FR about this, but the news-line has drifted focus away from this...

This could result in added expenses to users, and many more restrictions for users. The bottom line in the article says...

"Even the U.N.'s cultural agency, UNESCO, has raised concerns about proposals that are so broadly worded that they could be used to restrict freedom of expression under the guise of national security or fighting spam and Internet fraud."

Perfect for Obama to use to limit news coverage of his own filthy plans for this nation.

1 posted on 12/02/2012 4:58:08 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.
It's time to build an open source Internet using a worldwide web of interconnected Wifi routers.

Let's see them monitor and control THAT.

2 posted on 12/02/2012 5:01:20 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: Ron C.

Before the worldwide Marxist revolution can occur, by which the governing classes of the world’s nations forever seize power over the proletariat, it’s absolutely necessary to control the flow of information.

The UN will never cede this quest to control the free exchange of news and information, but will return to it again and again until the Internet is muzzled.


3 posted on 12/02/2012 5:05:10 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"It's time to build an open source Internet using a worldwide web of interconnected Wifi routers. Let's see them monitor and control THAT."

The airwaves are already totally controlled by governments. That's why wifi routers are so low powered. They're only allowed very low power by the government.

4 posted on 12/02/2012 5:06:26 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: norwaypinesavage; E. Pluribus Unum
The airwaves are already totally controlled by governments. That's why wifi routers are so low powered. They're only allowed very low power by the government.

To some extent they have to be, otherwise we'd all live in a microwave oven. The 2.4 Ghz frequencies can be rather easily amplified external to a router. A wireless mesh can also be made with cheap low power computers scattered around to fill gaps.

That said, control over the a lot of the internet is desired by the telcos who want people to hook to their network infrastructure, not build their own. The telcos will work with the government to keep it that way.

5 posted on 12/02/2012 5:16:59 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
These are rather inexpensive

Especially since the gubermint controls freqs and how powerful routers etc can be.

6 posted on 12/02/2012 5:21:32 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It's time to build an open source Internet using a worldwide web of interconnected Wifi routers.

Or resurrect a modified form of FIDONet and dust off the old BBS software. Point-to-point dial ups with mobile phones are hard to shut down unless you crash the entire phone system. Communications aren't instantaneous, but you can get the messages moving around the world within 48 hours. Problem with being a technophile, you don't know what to do when the backbone crashes or the DNS server is shut down. Most modern technophiles couldn't tell you where 127.0.0.1 will take you, or what you'll see, or even how to enter it. You'll have to go old school, like BBS's and IRC.

7 posted on 12/02/2012 5:29:31 PM PST by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Ron C.

Nobody seems to talk about the fact that most of the Internet is privately owned. Companies and individuals own the circuits, networks, and servers which make up the Internet.

Somehow the UN thinks it has authority to regulate private property.


8 posted on 12/02/2012 5:36:43 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Repeat Offender
A little cheaper here: http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/

(Yes, I have one and it works quite well)

9 posted on 12/02/2012 5:47:09 PM PST by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Traveler59

“Most modern technophiles couldn’t tell you where 127.0.0.1 will take you”

It takes me to a very dark place inside myself.


10 posted on 12/02/2012 6:28:45 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Ron C.
The UN and Obama want to enslave us:They want to control the flow of information so of course they will try to censor, regulate and tax the Internet( that is the UN goal).I wish the evil UN and government would leave the Internet alone, us alone and private businesses alone.Democrats and Obama would love for the UN should control the Internet.

However we who believe in freedom say no. Also we know the UN is a bunch of evil, socialist, monsters and dictators (same as Obama).

The UN should be defunded not given power to enslave us. liberals however love the UN and to be slaves.

11 posted on 12/02/2012 8:18:12 PM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: Ron C.

Where is Dick Cheney when we need him. His eloquent response to the UN internet police wannabes might be: “Go ‘F’ themselves!” Werksferme...


12 posted on 12/02/2012 10:07:56 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (2C7:14 If my people..shall humble themselves and pray..I will hear from heaven..and heal their land.)
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To: Ron C.

Guess we shouldn’t have given this bunch the internet.

Oh well - it was made by evil rich white men. So who cares?

Now such your racist face and go pay your taxes. Your government can sure use the money. :)


13 posted on 12/03/2012 12:33:01 AM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: Traveler59

HAM radio works pretty well for message traffic. Hook up a laptop to a transceiver, find a frequency and you can transfer data the same way you would with landlines.

Trouble is that you have to have a listener, but with a functional communications network, that won’t be a problem.


14 posted on 12/03/2012 5:07:32 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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