Skip to comments.BOEHNER: I Looked At Geithner And I Said, 'You Can't Be Serious?'
Posted on 12/02/2012 7:11:56 PM PST by Red Steel
House Speaker John Boehner told host Chris Wallace on "Fox News Sunday" that President Barack Obama is "not being serious" about proposing a deal to avert the so-called "fiscal cliff," slamming the president and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner's initial offer.
"It was not a serious offer," Boehner said. "I looked at [Geithner] and I said, 'You can't be serious?'
"You know, we've got several weeks between Election Day and the end of the year. And three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense."
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I can’t believe he doesn’t understand that he IS indeed being serious!!!!
“we need cuts and reforms that are greater than the increase in the debt limit”
What increase in the debt limit? I thought the pubbies weren’t going to raise the debt limit, hence the reason why they call it a LIMIT??!!
Tax Cheat Timmy thinks Americans are suckers
Boehner doesn’t have a clue what is going on. Apparently he laughed at Tim Geithner because the Democrats put forth a ludicrous plan.
Who the hell cares? Is this supposed to show that Republicans are “on to” the Democrats?? We know they are a joke? Their plan is ridiculous, and we’re going to tell the world?
Who the hell cares? What are the Republicans prepared to do? I say that they are prepared to do nothing at all, except pretend to be outraged and to perform a little Kabuki theater about being an opposition party.
The Republicans need to stop laughing. They need to push Obama to be more Obama-like, and they need to vote “present” when the bad bills come up for a vote. Let the country’s decline steepen. Put Democrat fingerprints all over it. If the Republicans try to provide any assistance in steering this ship, then 100% of the blame for the result will be on the GOP. Don’t they see that?? Or are they too busy yukking it up?
The best thing to do to when a lame duck president puts forth lame-brained ideas is to quack back at him.
Why pretend, bonehead?
You’ll bend over and get Geithnered in your Obama, so why put on a show?
Don’t you sometimes wish you had been born with the ability to produce testosterone?
And why negotiate with Geithner? Geithner has no vote, any dealing with him is a worthless waste of time.
Maybe if Boehner realizes before its too late what is really going on, he will gather the courage to go nuclear on election certification.
This is what is so frustrating to me.
Boehner could literally appoint himself president by exposing Obama for the fraud he is... simply by forcing the president to cough up his eligibility credentials.
The real nice thing about that would be that we could roll back the last 4 years of socialism 100 times faster.
But I know he wont do it cause he’s a coward.
” - - - Boehner said. “I looked at [Geithner] and I said, ‘You can’t be serious?’ - - - “
Since Sobber of the House Boehner hasn’t figured out that the Obama Administration is only seeking the REVENGE of Communist Party Member Frank Marshall Davis, Boehner must be dumber than a bag of hammers and sickles.
The sooner the House RINOs dump Boehner, the better.
The House Republicans could just vote on and pass Obama’s Simpson-Bowles Commission recommendations. They won’t have to actually think too much about it. Just stick together and put the ball back into the Dim’s and Obama’s court. I really don’t want the Repub’s to think about this as they tend to lose their collective spines.
He thinks Bonehead is a sucker. Which of course he is.
Bonehead is too stupid to realize that Gietner dis-respected him.
Hey Boehner, pass a bill extending the Bush tax cuts and GO HOME.
Mr Boehner should not be negotiating with Mr Geithner. Boehner is the leader of one of the co-equal branches of government. Mr Geithner is not! Aside of being a tax cheat, Geithner is merely a secretary for the administration..... If Obama doesn’t want to talk to Boehner, then Boehner should pass a bill making permanent all of the Bush tax cuts and go home for the holidays......
That’s okay. I take one look at Boehner and say the same thing.
“Tax Cheat Timmy thinks Americans are suckers”
Ahhhh... cough.. cough... ummmm.... they voted for Obama didnt they?
I dunno. Maybe Boehner *ought* to threaten the WH with having most of the House Republicans vote ‘present’ on this and then start a national campaign blaming Democrats for whatever happens to the economy unless 0bama gives Republicans what they want.
Unfortunately Obama is many steps ahead of Bohner. This is all just a part of Bohner’s dance of surrender preparing us for when he says “This the best deal I could get you”
So Obama presents Bohner with his grand wish list, all popular give-aways to voters paid for by those ‘taxes on the rich’.
What does Bohner have to to counter him?
1) No tax cuts for anyone unless the rich get them too?
(This is not a winning position now. He will not hold to this, and he doesn't plan on it either. But I am thinking that waiting on this till next year just helps Obama, not hurts him)
2) No deal without entitlement reform?
(So Obama says ‘Fine, tell us all what cuts you want to make to medicare and Social Security. We are listening”
But specific cuts to medicare has been used by both sides against the other. So Bohner doesn't want to propose his own plan on those either.)
If I saw a good outcome the way they are going then I would tell you.
I’ve been saying that for sometime. The Republicans need to be willing to walk away from a bad deal. The only way to turn the Democratic tide is to ensure the Dems wear everything they supported.
There is more than ample evidence to prove that at least 50% of us are.
Newt would have told Timmy to get the hell out of my office and tell 0bama to call for an appointment.
I am not sure of the end game here either. The deadline comes polling shows it will be the republicans fault. It hurts defense. And the other cuts are not enough to scare Dems because no entitlements will be touched and taxes go up on everyone.
Is it make the best deal you can and live to fight another day? We obstructed him for 4 years and all we got was another 4 years. I think you could get a more balanced approach sooner rather than later. The longer it goes the less the Dems will feel the need to deal. I could be wrong though.
Does Geihtner ever look someone straight in the eye? He always has that sideways glance...indicative of the sidewinder he is..He should be wearing striped jumpsuit.
How does a man who has been caught red-handed cheating on his taxes have credibility regarding negotiations on taxes and especially tax rates.
Doesn't the Obama White House have something like 250 people in arrears to the tune of $12 million on their federal taxes. If they can't pay what they owe now how are they going to pay more?
“Tax Cheat Timmy thinks Americans are suckers”
Well apparently 52% are! You see who they voted for.
Yes, are told we only have two options:
Option 1: (lose) Repeat the past mistakes, claim it is principle, get crushed (polls, angry phone calls, emails), surrender and in the end give O what he demands in a secret vote, then blame the media, lots of whining, then get beat in the general election.
In fact if you recall the final FICA extension (total cave) last year was passed by the R House quietly almost in secret .
Option 2 (surrender): Give Obama pretty much what he wants, then have Republicans primaried out of their seats for surrender, have half the new ones lose(O's hope anyway), then be completely demoralized, and decide there is no hope. (Wasnt this just 3 weeks ago?)
These are both disasters and they are exactly what Obama is trying to get.
That is why I suuggest a new idea, fight to WIN not to LOSE.
First thing they need to do is pass those so called middle class CUTS in the house, everyones income under $250K, or hell, even 500K might work. And send that to the Senate and on ALL the TV shows repeat : “ crisis-over, we protected the middle class. WE CUT TAXES. OK, Mr President. What do you need from us? Lets play negotiate”
And dont negotiate with Dems. Obama negotiates with voters, Republicans negotiate with Obama. Guess which one works? (there is another reason why this is so, can you guess what it is?)
If Republicans are taking the position that those middle class tax cuts cannot be extended unless they get O and Reid to sign onto those tax cuts the amounts over those above($250K/$500K) , and entitlement cuts, we all know how that will play out. No need to act shocked.
Look, if Bohner REALLY beats O at this then I will be the first here to admit I was wrong. But I havent seen anyone here who claims that they think that it will happen. That is the most amazing part. It's like "Please lose again"
-——claim it is principle, get crushed————
Is that not the conservative way?
That is the way many, many here think and act.
I’m still waiting for a Republican to figure out that taxing income is not going to effect the wealthy.
This is all just charade. The government is not going to get smaller. The Republicans will just float a solution worse than raising taxes to scare us and then we’ll be relieved when they only raise our taxes.
I think perhaps the “confiscate 401K’s” maybe how the Republicans do it.
The weather may be the most accurate news you hear all day.
I appreciate you seeing it.
This cult like behaviour: “We cant win. Everyone is against us. Lets lose on principle, again, and again, then blame the media and act surprised”
But in the end they always (at least the past two years) give O what he wants. So what principle is that?
Here's some simple rules no one ELSE will say:
1) If you win your primary and lose that seat to a Dem, dont blame voter fraud, the MSM, or (put excuse here) ...that is your failure.
2) If you vote against a bill that your house controls and it passes anyway (like budget control) after losing a visible public confrontation and the voters turn on your party and then O signs it into law, THEN that is losing not winning. Dont tell me a principle was served by that.
They need to start thinking winning. Losing is losing.
Is he wrong?
Then send it to the Senate and tell harry ried your turn.
Negotiating with geitner is like spitting into the wind.
Yep. And at this point, Boehner shouldn’t be negotiating with Barry, either. Nothing wrong with presenting and holding to your positions publicly.
” Look, if Bohner REALLY beats O at this then I will be the first here to admit I was wrong. But I havent seen anyone here who claims that they think that it will happen. “
History(the only thing that matters here) proves that Boehner will cave.
I go further than that.
He already decided to cave.
His comments yesterday to Wallace were designed to tell his House troops :
“Look, I am with you. I am fighting the best I can” before he tells them that they must swallow that Pelosi crap sandwich again.
I just cant fake surprise next month when this has played out over and over again.
I can just hear Obama whine 2 years from now, when our debt is 20-22 TRILLION..
” Hey, this was agreed to by Democrats & Republicans alike! Don’t blame ME! “
(End of Republican Party regarding POTUS)
Well after he gets taxes to go up on ‘the rich’ then he wont have much of an argument on that anymore. Republicans can play thre O game and blame everything on those tax increases.
But unfortunately that will be too late to hurt O because he was already re-elected.
That is why he strategically (and got Pelosi, and some Senate Dems) caved on this exactly two years ago (Dec 2010) to the last congress, techically caved on tax cuts to the 2010 Senate minority filibuster. So he could run his re-election campaign on ‘the rich caused the deficits’, and it worked for him. (I saw this coming a mile away.)
The problem with such huge deficits is that if a R does take the WH in 2016/2017 then he will be trapped by the massive debt and will be advised that he must raise taxes.... well remember 1990 ???? You think Republicans are shooting each other now?
I think is why congressional Republicans are in a fret about it.
He’s the most prominent Republican spelunker we’ve had as Speaker of the House. He is very emotional though. I’ll give him that.
The Republicans in D.C. had all of 4 years to EXPLODE IN PUBLIC over NUMEROUS Obama atrocities, but instead hid in their offices.
1) They could have stopped SCOTUS nominations by REVOLTING,and exposing both as Marxist FANATICS but they caved.
2) They could have stopped Obamacare, by REVOLTING IN PUBLIC, but they instead made nary a wimper.
ROMNEY NEEDED TO EXPOSE OBAMA BUT DIDN’T EVEN TRY.
Who took the fight to Obama over the last 4 years in D.C.?
The only names that come to mind are..
1) House: Issa
2) Senate: DeMint
And NOBODY backed them up, other than lip service.
Boehner set us up for failure regarding negotiations 2 years ago, and he will complete the castration shortly. Good luck all.
WOW, talk about negative vibes :)
Did you see our old *friend* was calling me 'negative' on that unrelated thread today??
He is the same one who on Nov 2 posted that Romney was going to win big and take back the Senate.
Is there any use for being so wrong all the time?
Does the compass that points everywhere but North lead to success?
” WOW, talk about negative vibes :)”
Sorry bout that. I believe everything I posted. We could have run Obama out of town, DESPITE the MSM if we had relentlessly fought back, but representatives in (D.C.) did next to nothing. Americans are busy working and supporting families, and we can’t do Tea Party protests in D.C. very often. THAT is what we pay handsomely for our D.C. representatives to do. They took our money, and hid in the closet for 4 years. What should I feel positive about?
'Friendship means never having to say you're sorry to SOL for having a gloomy outlook', dude.
I read that on fortune cookie I think.
I never hold it against Gilb, or vice versa HA-HA
Obamski wants a train wreck in 2013/14 that he can blame, through the complicit media, on GOP intransigence on "taxing the rich".
Obamski's eyes are on November, 2014. He wants two years with a liberal Senate, SCOTUS and House. He has two out of three. Once he gets all three he will have two years without concern for re-election, to make his first two years look like the Reagan Revolution.
This is his goal and his strategy to get there is to force the GOP to "stand firm on the line in the sand" of no tax increase.
The kids in the GOP think that they are being principled but they are being played.
They won the WH on the "the GOP protects the 2% and hates the 47" strategy. The dopes in the GOP not only don't know how to defend against it, they don't even see it. I coach football. Rule number one...if your offense is working keep running the same plays.
I say give him what he wants now on taxes (except the debt ceiling control). It will suck but it will save the House and ultimately what is left of this country.
” Thats okay. I take one look at Boehner and say the same thing.”
Yeah : )