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Sen. DeMint: Washington Is Lost for Now
Newsmax ^ | Sunday, 02 Dec 2012 03:23 PM | Ernest Istook

Posted on 12/02/2012 10:08:06 PM PST by Olog-hai

“We’ve lost the battle in Washington” for now, says Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C. The new goals, he says, are for conservatives to prove their principles work in states and to defend against President Obama’s effort “to steamroll what’s left of the Republican Party here in Washington.”

As a guest on “Istook Live!,” DeMint agreed that Obama aims to crush his opposition now so they cannot resist his agenda over the next four years. Said the senator, “They smell blood in the water and they’ll keep pushing … they’re not coming our way or coming to the middle to try and govern.”

However, he acknowledges that a “very few” Republicans will go along with the president’s tax demands—but only those officials who “probably aren’t real Republicans” in the first place. …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: jimdemint; liberalism; rinos; surrendermonkeys
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1 posted on 12/02/2012 10:08:11 PM PST by Olog-hai
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>> but only those officials who “probably aren’t real Republicans” in the

Then let’s get their representing names out into public view so the constituents responsible for their seats can express their concerns.


2 posted on 12/02/2012 10:13:59 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Olog-hai

That is an accurate assessment.

The GOP and conservatives have failed to advance their ideas and philosophies.

If an older person does not get to a younger person as early as possible and plant the seeds of freedom, then the enemy will absolutely get to them as early as they can and plant the seeds of slavery. That is how it works.

Beyond that, controling the media, all levels of education, and entertainment is a form of mass mind control, and it is shockingly effective.

Until conservatives take drastic action in those areas and in other areas which I will not mention, no progress will be made to turn this around, in fact it will get much, much worse.


3 posted on 12/02/2012 10:19:18 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

IOW, instead of DC being “lost” in a fair fight, the GOP threw it away.


4 posted on 12/02/2012 10:22:45 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Let us watch the mighty House Republicans stand tall like the watchmen upon the wall, led by that vigilant hero John Boehner.... may God help us all.


5 posted on 12/02/2012 10:24:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Olog-hai
As a guest on “Istook Live!,” DeMint agreed that Obama aims to crush his opposition now so they cannot resist his agenda over the next four years. Said the senator, “They smell blood in the water and they’ll keep pushing … they’re not coming our way or coming to the middle to try and govern.”

When do you think Boehner is going to figure this out? His only option is to call a press conference and call out Obama. Tell him if he leaves town he can forget any negotiations. Then adjourn the House sine die. Go home and start makes speechesin his district. telling the country what the SOB has been doing.

6 posted on 12/02/2012 10:24:39 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Olog-hai
Bullshit! You're beaten only when you think you are! There are the 2014 mid-terms and there is still a Republican majority in the House. Stymie Obama in every way possible. It's long past time for conservatives to start getting tough with the liberals as liberals have been on conservatives. Limbaugh ought to start ramping it up like Savage does and make the Sandra Fluke thing look tame in comparison. “I want you to get in their faces’’ said Obama, and it worked for him, didn't it? Tired of this chickenshit ‘’civility’’ stuff, GOP, GET TOUGH!! This is America we're fighting for!
7 posted on 12/02/2012 10:25:58 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: chris37

Oh, YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS? (/s) I lost a 30 year “friend” a couple weeks ago because I’ve been passing on to her articles about what is happening....and she calls me “toxic.” (She did not vote for the “O”) There are soooo many who are oblivious.


8 posted on 12/02/2012 10:26:06 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Olog-hai
Thank you for telling us what we've known for some time now, Senator.

This is the culmination of decades of Republicans attempt to ‘dance with the devil’; rationalizing that it'll all work out in the end.

The warnings and red flags were out there all along but the GOPe chose to ignore it. Now we all will pay the price.

9 posted on 12/02/2012 10:28:42 PM PST by MichaelCorleone ('We the People' can and will take this country back...starting today.)
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To: RobbyS
The Storm has come to tear us,
the vicious fight is nigh.
When survival intact looks bleakest
then we shall fight all night

Let us watch the mighty House Republicans stand tall
like the watchmen upon the wall,
led by that vigilant hero John Boehner....
may God help us all.

10 posted on 12/02/2012 10:29:26 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Olog-hai

IOW, instead of DC being “lost” in a fair fight, the GOP threw it away.

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That has been their job for a couple of decades now.


11 posted on 12/02/2012 10:36:49 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Not so "commanding", not so "inevitable".)
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To: Olog-hai

The GOP did throw it away, but to be fair, so did the sleeping giant.

It remained asleep, and as far as I can tell, it is going to continue to remeain asleep.

The fact of the matter is freedom must be fought for and fought for constantly and ferociously. If a free person on this earth intends to remain free, then that person must eliminate any threat to that freedom outright, immediatley and in such a way that the next would be taker of freedom will not soon forget what is in store for him if he so much as even thinks of trying.

That is all there is to it. The nature of mankind is evil and his desire is to control. This does not apply to every single person, however it only takes a few to control the masses, especially if that few knows how to manufacture the support it needs.


12 posted on 12/02/2012 10:54:44 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: goodnesswins

Wow...

Attempt to inform and be shunned.

No matter, she will learn the hard way.

I simply try to prepare those people who have my blood in their veins for what is coming. I do believe civilization is going to experience very soon am abrupt loss of the comfort and convenience that has allowed it to slouch into its current despicable state.


13 posted on 12/02/2012 10:58:29 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Olog-hai
The ONLY reason this is happening in WASH DC is because there is NO REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP.
14 posted on 12/02/2012 11:26:36 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Olog-hai
The people up there representing us, have failed to do the right things. I have relatives who work up there for house and senate people. They tell me often that these people up there do not want to make any waves by taking on tough issues. They are giving us all a line of bull. They don't have the guts to do what we would like for them to do. Clobber the enemy with ideas vs letting the media say what our message is. They are not going to tangle with the media like Newt and Palin has done. We have been lied to. This isn't funny anymore to see such weak leaders. I think they all should be fired because they are incompetent. We need term limits legislation badly. That's the problem.
15 posted on 12/02/2012 11:39:52 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: chris37

Well said and I presume the sleeping giant you refer to is the society/culture at large. The time for talk is over; it will no longer serve a purpose, but is it still “too early to shoot the bastards”???


16 posted on 12/03/2012 12:14:57 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (2C7:14 If my people..shall humble themselves and pray..I will hear from heaven..and heal their land.)
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To: jmacusa

Like Mark Levin has said, resist, delay, obstruct. Be like the freedom fighters of World War II...they resisted, delayed and obstructed when and where they could. It should be our motto..pass it on.


17 posted on 12/03/2012 12:20:59 AM PST by itssme
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To: Olog-hai

I don’t follow DeMint’s career closely, but I’ve always thought he was a good man.


18 posted on 12/03/2012 12:48:08 AM PST by GoodDay
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To: Gene Eric

Good idea. Everyone should vote honestly. And those who don’t should be exposed by those who do.


19 posted on 12/03/2012 12:49:12 AM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: RobbyS

Never formally adjourn and allow this bastich to make recess appointments and issue illegal executive orders.
Adjourning the House or the Senate is terribly dangerous.


20 posted on 12/03/2012 1:20:55 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Terry Mross
Everyone should vote honestly.

Matters not, if we don't have honest tabulation. Only an idiot would trust voting machines.

21 posted on 12/03/2012 2:28:49 AM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: Olog-hai

The RINOs wanted it, and they lost the election and destroyed the GOP in the process.Eff them all including Graham, McCAin and Karl Rove

Let the GOP die its ignoble death, and initiate USIP ( Tea) ( United States Independent Party-Tea), spread the conservative message in this style:

Bill Whittle Advice on how to respond to Obama propaganda Press questions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryv7PzyCmVA&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjCNr94bG-o&feature=player_embedded#!


22 posted on 12/03/2012 2:49:13 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: MestaMachine
"Never formally adjourn and allow this bastich to make recess appointments and issue illegal executive orders. Adjourning the House or the Senate is terribly dangerous."

Well, we have already had an instance where Obama declared the Senate to be in recess and made recess appointments. The GOP issued a few statements and then did nothing to stop the usurpation.

23 posted on 12/03/2012 2:49:43 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Olog-hai

He nails it. We, the States, need to fight. And I hope he cosiders running for higher office. Their side is already gearing up for 2014. We can’t rest.


24 posted on 12/03/2012 3:04:43 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: itssme

I am right there with him. Our biggest threat is our Pravda-media..and they need to be rebutted and challenged every single time. Letters to editors on local newspapapers, online blogs, calling TV stations, etc. by indidivuals. And the Tea Party groups are not dead. I meet with several in my area as all politics is local. We work on those issues as well as a broader agenda. The Left has a huge jump on us in that regard, they have natural organization efforts on campuses, unions, etc. We need to be able to do the same, taking our case to small groups at a time. We may have been in the minority this last election..but by no means was that an overwhelming minority.


25 posted on 12/03/2012 3:14:42 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Olog-hai

26 posted on 12/03/2012 4:00:54 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: SueRae

DeMint: “They generally believe in a collectivist, big government society, and they see the government as a key player in our economy and our culture. And anything we suggest otherwise is alien to them. So their paradigm is big government.”

Istook: “You’re talking about the paradigm of the liberal Democrats or the media?”

DeMint:” It’s the same thing.”

I am proud to have him as my Senator. I’d hate to lose him but I agree, I would like to see him run on a presidential ticket. He is a good fighter and his PAC has been working with ‘tea party’ state level races to get more conservatives in office downstream which is important.


27 posted on 12/03/2012 4:29:10 AM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: jmacusa

I agree. Who gives a crap what the media and the race baiters say. It’s all going to be pro Obama all the time anyway. What do we have to lose by putting all on the table and going full negative on the POS? Tell it lime it is. Hes a commie trying to destroy American. There is nothing “nice” about him.


28 posted on 12/03/2012 4:45:42 AM PST by jersey117
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To: Olog-hai

Will someone ever grow a set of balls in the RINO leadership? Pelosi has bigger ones than Boner!


29 posted on 12/03/2012 4:48:58 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: jmacusa
You're beaten only when you think you are! ... GOP, GET TOUGH!!

Whap! Whap! Horse, get up! Act alive again!
30 posted on 12/03/2012 5:09:20 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: snippy_about_it
I am proud to have him as my Senator.

I also. And Trey Gowdy as my Rep.

But I hear that Jim may not be running for re-election. Hope he remains at work where he is, for now, and doesn't become lame duckish.
31 posted on 12/03/2012 5:16:35 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: chris37

I hear you. A lot of us have been prepping for collapse.


32 posted on 12/03/2012 5:17:15 AM PST by MachIV
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To: jmacusa

I like your fight .


33 posted on 12/03/2012 5:29:55 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: VideoDoctor

You are correct .
Bonehead represents the Lobbyist elite class of DC and there clients .
His entire former staff are lobbyists and they feed him
Power and control and he keeps the tax dollars flowing !


34 posted on 12/03/2012 5:34:51 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Olog-hai
However, he acknowledges that a “very few” Republicans will go along with the president’s tax demands—but only those officials who “probably aren’t real Republicans” in the first place. …

Now, Senator, that's not a nice thing to say about House and Senate Republican leadership, is it?

35 posted on 12/03/2012 5:38:03 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Resettozero

You forgot “Back off, vultures” . . .


36 posted on 12/03/2012 6:06:11 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: jmacusa
“We’ve lost the battle in Washington” for now, says Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C. The new goals, he says, are for conservatives to prove their principles work in states

We are reliving the Lincolnesque FedGov™ power grab of 1861. The only way to fight now is to mass Conservative power at the state level and fight on even terms up to and including secession.

37 posted on 12/03/2012 6:10:35 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: chris37

“The GOP and conservatives have failed to advance their ideas and philosophies.”

If that’s true, then explain why republicans and conservatives control 30 states, which is up from 25 in 2010.

Explain why nearly 1,000 rats have been thrown out of state legislature seats and state-wide political offices since 2010.


38 posted on 12/03/2012 6:18:50 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: sergeantdave

Sarge, you make good points to reinforce the notions of voter fraud in the 2012 Presidential election and collusion between the R&D parties.


39 posted on 12/03/2012 6:23:04 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: sergeantdave

Apologies, sergeantdave; I’ll take those stripes back now.


40 posted on 12/03/2012 6:28:19 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: New Jersey Realist

What is needed is AMERICAN JOBS.

Bring back US jobs now. Stop sending American jobs overseas.

And bring back jobs which have been exported.

Now.


41 posted on 12/03/2012 6:37:26 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Olog-hai

Some people around the edges of conservatism are now going to read the tea leaves and jump to the stronger horse. They will see better opportunities for themselves in trying to ingratiate themselves in the government sector than in private business. They will become hangers-on and supporters of BigGov.

This will take us past the 51% tipping point. We are now living in a Euro-style Social Democracy and likely will for the rest of our lifetimes.


42 posted on 12/03/2012 6:45:10 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Olog-hai

This isn’t just the GOP and it didn’t just happen now. What we’re about to experience is the culmination of 100+ years of an unrelenting push for the Progressive agenda. At the very least the war was lost decades ago when Progressives reached the tipping point in their infestation of acadamia.


43 posted on 12/03/2012 6:53:15 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Buckeye McFrog
We are now living in a Euro-style Social Democracy and likely will for the rest of our lifetimes.

Probably not that long. Who is going to fund our continued existance under this European social democracy? America? Best be thinking in the short term. Namely: today.

I think the age that is being bantered around is 55. After that, it will cost your every possession to remain living...for a while.

These guys have been and are more serious than we are.
44 posted on 12/03/2012 7:00:28 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: itsahoot

I meant every congress person should vote honestly. Jim DiMint should vote his beliefs. Then he should expose those who don’t. Name names!


45 posted on 12/03/2012 8:57:12 AM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: sergeantdave

Who cares why any of that is the case?

Those republicans, as well as republicans in Washington, are utterly powerless.

They cannot do anything at all to resist the communist take over of the USA, so their existence is moot.

Let’s be proud of all the pawns we have on the board, meanwhile the enemy has all queens...


46 posted on 12/03/2012 9:34:12 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

That is the sleeping giant I referred to, and the action that you speak of should have been taken as early as the 1920’s.

Allowing others to plot against your freedom because they have the right to do so is absolute suicide.

If a people is to remain free, then the enemies of freedom must know is no uncertain terms what the result of plotting against freedom is.


47 posted on 12/03/2012 9:38:30 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37
Allowing others to plot against your freedom because they have the right to do so is absolute suicide.

A fact that was well-recognized a half century ago:

"No Communist, Fascist, or any other totalitarian committed to the destruction . . . of the principles and practices of democracy should be permitted to teach in a democracy. Freedom does not imply freedom to destroy freedom." -- Dr. Clarence R. Decker, President of the University of Kansas City, 1949

48 posted on 12/03/2012 9:50:17 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Excellent. That is exactly right.

What those people are spreading is a very carefull crafted organic malicious code that is self replicating, self propagating, it exploits known flaws of the human psyche, and to allow it to exist and spread means that you will soon be outnumbered by it and held captive to it.

There are two remedies for this malicious code that a society can take. The first is to eliminate the sources of it immediately and without mercy. The second is to spread counter code in the same manner. Without any sources of counter code, there is no hope at all, because the few who do know the counter code will eventually die, and they will not be replaced because those replacements were never made.

Yes I know that I am comparing this to a computer virus and even an organic virus, because that is essentially exactly what it is.


49 posted on 12/03/2012 9:57:58 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37
They cannot do anything at all to resist the communist take over of the USA, so their existence is moot.

True, until those state legislatures start contemplating secession.

50 posted on 12/03/2012 10:00:21 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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