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The Fabrication of Evidence Is A Crime
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | December 3, 2012 | Sundance

Posted on 12/03/2012 5:12:55 AM PST by Uncle Chip

The Discovery Evidence in case of State of Florida vs. George Zimmerman clearly shows that Witness #8 “DeeDee” the mysterious girlfriend of Trayvon Martin is 18-years-old.

[pg #1 F-2] Witness #8 is 18-years-old and was 18 at the time of Benjamin Crump’s interview with her on 3/19/12 according to her sworn statement to State Prosecutors on 4/2/12.

So why did the media and the Trayvon Family of Attorney’s report to the public that DeeDee was 16-years-old on 3/20/12

ABC News was there exclusively as the 16-year-old girl told Crump about the last moments of the teenager’s life. Martin had been talking to his girlfriend all the way to the store where he bought Skittles and a tea. The phone was in his pocket and the earphone in his ear, Crump said. - Matt Gutman

Attorneys’ Benjamin Crump, Natalie Jackson, Jasmine Rand and Daryl Parks also falsely identified DeeDee as Trayvon’s 16-year-old girlfriend. Here - and Here – and Here - misleading the public and the courts.

The Global Grind also reported the details on behalf of the family:

The 16-year-old girl who was on the phone with Trayvon Martin in his final moments has come forward, saying that she has not been interviewed by Sanford police – despite Trayvon telling her he was being followed.

Trayvon’s 16-year-old girlfriend, who is only being identified as DeeDee, recounted the final moments of her conversation with Trayvon before the line went dead.

But she’s not Sixteen, she’s Eighteen. So what gives? What else are they lying about?

And why did the State of Florida never correct the hundreds of interviews given by the Trayvon Family and their Legal Representatives to both media, and law enforcement, where they claimed “DeeDee” was a 16-year-old minor?

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: trayvonmartin; zimmerman
And this from CNN on April 4, 2012:

"FBI agents were in Sanford on Tuesday, continuing their interviews in a civil rights investigation of the case, which Martin family supporters say is a clear-cut case of racial profiling leading to an unjust killing.... On Monday, agents interviewed Martin’s girlfriend, the 16-year-old girl who, phone records show, was on the line with him shortly before the fatal confrontation, Martin family attorney Daryl Parks confirmed Tuesday."

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/03/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html

So just who did the FBI agents interview on that Monday April 2, 2012: a 16 year old girl or an 18 year old girl???

Were they hoodwinked too or part of the charade???

1 posted on 12/03/2012 5:13:06 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Sixteen, 18, what’s the difference in the ‘hood? “Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed .... “


2 posted on 12/03/2012 5:19:00 AM PST by Ken522
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To: Uncle Chip

Will the real Slim Shady, please stand up.


3 posted on 12/03/2012 5:19:09 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Uncle Chip

“Were they hoodwinked too or part of the charade???”

Don’t we already know? Hussein needed a “it could have been by son” moment in his efforts to continue a race war.


4 posted on 12/03/2012 5:19:32 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Uncle Chip
Ok, so they lied about her age, I get that, but is there any other difference it makes to what she stated?

Why would they want to lie about her age?

5 posted on 12/03/2012 5:28:57 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: sirchtruth

Crump portrayed her as a minor that needed more consideration and protection than an adult. That meant she wasn’t as accessible since Crump “protected” her.

I’m hoping that Crump ends up in bankruptcy after being sued.


6 posted on 12/03/2012 5:40:22 AM PST by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: sirchtruth

Crump portrayed her as a minor that needed more consideration and protection than an adult. That meant she wasn’t as accessible since Crump “protected” her.

I’m hoping that Crump ends up in bankruptcy after being sued.


7 posted on 12/03/2012 5:40:39 AM PST by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: sirchtruth

Because as a minor she would be treated as a juvenile not an adult, which means that her name and identity had to be withheld from the public AND she cannot be held to the same standards as an adult in criminal matters, for example if she was found to have committed perjury in a deposition.


8 posted on 12/03/2012 5:42:35 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Ken522

minors identity is protected.

an 18 year old is no longer a minor. Her identity must be given for testimony.


9 posted on 12/03/2012 5:57:36 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: meatloaf; Uncle Chip
Crump portrayed her as a minor that needed more consideration and protection than an adult.

Right, great point. Thanks to both of you for the clarification.

10 posted on 12/03/2012 6:03:36 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: sirchtruth

“Ok, so they lied about her age, I get that, but is there any other difference it makes to what she stated?”

Because as a minor, she can make the statement and not be put under a microscope herself.

As an 18 year old, and subject to being investigated, I hereby make the bold prediction: she won’t turn out to be the second coming of Mother Teresa!

More than likely a big time druggie and gangster whore - which will further help to define the thug that was killed that night.


11 posted on 12/03/2012 6:24:11 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: sirchtruth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UupgJ4Un-Zo&feature=plcp


12 posted on 12/03/2012 6:30:05 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Uncle Chip

“which Martin family supporters say is a clear-cut case of racial profiling leading to an unjust killing...”

Clear-cut alright, but clearly not in the way the Martin family claims.


13 posted on 12/03/2012 6:56:33 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: I cannot think of a name

I didn’t get that from her twitters. I did get the feeling that Crump managed the message so that she was not out and out lying. Crump very carefully led her by his questions. What wasn’t said was interesting.

Anyone looking at Crump’s interview and reading the twitters can see the differences. She really didn’t care about Martin. He was that kid in her twitters after he died. The big lie from Crump was that she was so distressed she couldn’t go to Martin’s funeral. Remember Crump got his hooks into the Martins long after the funeral. He had to build a story.

Dee Cee, IIRC, went somewhere with friends on the day of Martin’s funeral. It was just another day for her. Crump blew it because by the time he came on the scene and started the PR effort, the social media content, facebook, twitter, etc. had already been found and cached on a lot of websites. Crump missed all of that.

If the news media had done a cursory internet search they would have been suspicious of the story line. Instead they jumped on the bandwagon and often added their own embellishment. If justice prevails Zimmerman is going to be very wealthy.


14 posted on 12/03/2012 7:19:05 AM PST by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: meatloaf
Here is what gets me about the April 2nd deposition:

For 13 days all we heard from Crump and the Martin attorneys is that DeeDee was 16 years old -- "a minor chile". That point is driven home again and again in every media story.

Then on April 2nd BDLR the prosecutor sits down with her at a deposition and the girl in front of him states for the record under oath that she is 18 years old -- not a minor and not 16.

Did it ever occur to BDLR that the 18 y/o DeeDee in front of him at that time was not the same 16 y/o DeeDee that Crump interviewed on March 19th???

Crump brought this DeeDee to the deposition and was there in the room. Why didn't BDLR stop the deposition right there and ask Crump what the deal is???

The fact that he didn't stop the deposition right there, but then went ahead and used it for his affidavit, and in subsequent copies edited out her age, indicates that he was complicit in this scheme, perpetrating a fraud and fabricating evidence.

15 posted on 12/03/2012 8:08:59 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Yep! BDLR is most certainly complicit or he’s so dumb, someone took the bar exam for him.


16 posted on 12/03/2012 8:43:53 AM PST by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: meatloaf

Here’s the basic problem with that logic:

If the whole story is about what she “tweeted” then she doesn’t need to be interviewed.

If there is something to the story that requires that she be interviewed, then it is more then tweeting.

If there is something to the story that requires that the defense not be told her true age so that they will not have access to her, then there is something rotten in the woodpile.

Since that is EXACTLY what happened, the only conclusion I can come to is that there IS something rotten in the woodpile. And if they are trying to keep the defense away from this girl, then there must be something about this girl that would help the defense.

Given the media circus the prosecution turned this case into, they’d have paraded her out at a news conference unless it would have somehow benefited the defense.


17 posted on 12/03/2012 9:20:11 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name

That is the problem. The story is not about the tweets or facebook postings.Those provide a completely different viewpoint of the witness that contradicts Crump’s PR scam. You get to read about the real Dee Cee and Trayvon which neither Crump, the Martins or the media mentioned.

Crump and the Martins have been actively trying to prevent that stuff from going mainstream. It’s already out on the internet and has been for some time. Of course that doesn’t comply with the rules of evidence.

Some of the pictures which were previously said to not be Trayvon are now confrimed to be him in a newspaper article. Those are the ones that show a side of Trayvon that the media ignored in their portrayal of him as a young innocent rather than a wannabe thug.

What Crump tried was brazen as hell and required a complicit media and an agenda driven prosecuter to accomplish. The tweets and facebook stuff never made it into the lamestream media. Zimmerman was ganged up on in every sense of the phrase.

IMNSHO, both Crump and the Martins have been obstructing justice by trying to restrict access to information about the so-called girlfriend and Martin.


18 posted on 12/03/2012 10:01:39 AM PST by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: meatloaf
The state of Florida seems to be part of the conspiracy, along with Crump and Trayvon's parents, to see to it that GZ is found guilty. Why else is the state trying to keep evidence from the defense?

The interview with Dee Dee which the defense is trying to get a good copy of (instead of the one they were given, much of which is unintelligible because of the poor quality) was done after Crump had a chance to coach her what to say. It still could be useful to the defense.

There was something a few days ago about how they couldn't get information from Trayvon's cell phone without the PIN which Trayvon's father refused to give them (obviously because he thinks it might help the defense). I don't know enough about cell phones to know but what kind of evidence is there likely to be? Could the original phone conversations still be in there in the form of a recording?

19 posted on 12/03/2012 3:32:25 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

I don’t know anyhing about cellphone memories. I doubt there would be recordings unless there’s a record mode. There might be some pictures like the thug poses Trayvon had elsewhere.


20 posted on 12/03/2012 4:42:11 PM PST by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: ltc8k6

You might as well give me a synopses because I have dino dialup 56k!


21 posted on 12/04/2012 4:41:33 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
The state of Florida seems to be part of the conspiracy, along with Crump and Trayvon's parents, to see to it that GZ is found guilty. Why else is the state trying to keep evidence from the defense?

From my understanding there is no way the state can keep evidence from the defense. The prosecution knows good and well the defense would find out eventually. Could Holder be behind most of this? Did the state weigh the cost of RIOTS vs. botched prosecution?

All I know is Zimmerman better be a rich ass man when this is all over.

22 posted on 12/04/2012 4:53:24 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: sirchtruth

If Zimmerman is found innocent, the race-baiters will still claim he is guilty and should have been condemned to death. It will never be safe for him in America. Probably he will have to fight civil lawsuits after this trial, unless Holder finds a way to bring a new set of criminal charges against him. He may need to move to Peru to be safe.


23 posted on 12/04/2012 6:35:17 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: sirchtruth

Crump’s presser where he says W8 is a minor child about 6 separate times...


24 posted on 12/04/2012 8:54:57 AM PST by ltc8k6
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