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Crystal Sugar workers reject contract 4th time
Bismarck Tribune ^ | 12-2-12 | ap

Posted on 12/03/2012 5:25:55 AM PST by TurboZamboni

FARGO, N.D. — Their ranks thinned by a 16-month lockout, American Crystal Sugar Co. workers on Saturday rejected a contract for the fourth time.

Contract opponents say the sugar beet processor’s five-year contract offer would cut health care benefits and weaken job security and seniority protections. The company says the offer would raise worker pay by 17 percent over five years when a $2,000 signing bonus is taken into account.

Leaders of the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International union said in a news release that the workers voted 55 percent to reject management’s contract offer.

“By now it should be clear that (company CEO) Dave Berg and Crystal Sugar’s management team has no interest in ending a fiscally irresponsible lockout that has been disastrous to farm shareholders, put the federal sugar program in jeopardy, and hurt countless families in the Red River Valley,” said John Riskey, the head of a union local that represents employees at three American Crystal factories.

(Excerpt) Read more at bismarcktribune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: hostess; strike; sugar; unions

1 posted on 12/03/2012 5:26:03 AM PST by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

Move the operations to the South Bay, Florida facility.


2 posted on 12/03/2012 5:29:52 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: TurboZamboni

Interesting that it’s the same union in which 5000 of that union were involved in killing Hostess, and losing a reported total of 18,500 jobs.

I know not enough about the plight of the company, or those of the union to comment otherwise.


3 posted on 12/03/2012 5:31:36 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch
Interesting that it’s the same union in which 5000 of that union were involved in killing Hostess, and losing a reported total of 18,500 jobs.

What's really interesting to me is that the union admits 45% of the workers want to go back to work. I wonder if it was secret ballot or a voice vote? My guess is more like 70% to 80% want to get back to work and it's only the diehards holding out. And they're holding out because of what happened with Hostess. This company's not going out of business. And North Dakota is booming so there probably are other jobs for these workers to go to.

4 posted on 12/03/2012 5:37:38 AM PST by old and tired
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To: rockinqsranch

the offer would raise worker pay by 17 percent over five years when a $2,000 signing bonus is taken into account.


5 posted on 12/03/2012 5:37:38 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Bushbacker1
Move the operations to the South Bay, Florida facility.

I'm not sure it wold make any difference aside from more available illegals in Florida.
6 posted on 12/03/2012 5:37:44 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: rockinqsranch

>>Interesting that it’s the same union in which 5000 of that union were involved in killing Hostess, and losing a reported total of 18,500 jobs.<<

I was thinking the same thing. MO’s war on sugar.


7 posted on 12/03/2012 5:37:53 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything... IS... a conspiracy)
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To: ILS21R

Union behavior all across the country is pretty bizarre considering how badly their ballot proposals did in most states. They’re in a state of panic here in Michigan because they know that right to work is coming to Michigan and they can’t even count on their own members to vote against it.


8 posted on 12/03/2012 5:55:38 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TurboZamboni
“By now it should be clear that (company CEO) Dave Berg and Crystal Sugar’s management team has no interest in ending a fiscally irresponsible lockout that has been disastrous to farm shareholders, put the federal sugar program in jeopardy, and hurt countless families in the Red River Valley,” said John Riskey, the head of a union local that represents employees at three American Crystal factories.

Union spin. At least one of the plants has been run in ND by non-union employees, who according to some sources are doing just fine. North Dakota is a right-to-work state.

9 posted on 12/03/2012 6:15:46 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: TurboZamboni

I feel we are in for a long stretch of labor strife, strikes and difficulties.

The union movement got their guy Barry re-elected and they are feeling their oats. They think this is the moment to “turn the tide” against the decline of unions (which they blame 110% on Reagan firing the PATCO controllers).

The NLRB will certainly be friendly to them. I expect to see a Card Check-style unionization election in most large workplaces before the decade is through.


10 posted on 12/03/2012 6:16:32 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TurboZamboni
The company says the offer would raise worker pay by 17 percent over five years when a $2,000 signing bonus is taken into account.

A signing bonus for unskilled labor? Line workers should only make minimum wage. It's not rocket science.

11 posted on 12/03/2012 6:28:09 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: TurboZamboni
Their ranks thinned by a 16-month lockout, American Crystal Sugar Co. workers on Saturday rejected a contract for the fourth time.

I doubt that any deal they make now will make up for the lost income over that 16 months.

12 posted on 12/03/2012 6:29:20 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: TurboZamboni

Leaders of the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International union said in a news release that the workers voted 55 percent to reject management’s contract offer.

And when the workers lose their jobs guess who will have theirs.


13 posted on 12/03/2012 6:37:20 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: Bushbacker1

American Crystal Sugar has its sugar beet processing plants in Minnesota and North Dakota-where the sugar beets are grown. To truck the beets to Florida would be a tad bit expensive.


14 posted on 12/03/2012 6:46:22 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: cripplecreek

>>Union behavior all across the country is pretty bizarre considering how badly their ballot proposals did in most states. They’re in a state of panic here in Michigan because they know that right to work is coming to Michigan and they can’t even count on their own members to vote against it.<<

True. When Scott Walker survived his recall (thanks in part to union households), it was the shot across the bow for union leaders. And the result of their power grab ballot proposals didn’t do them any favors. It will be interesting to see how they fare in the next four years.


15 posted on 12/03/2012 6:47:09 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything... IS... a conspiracy)
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To: TurboZamboni

No sympathy.


16 posted on 12/03/2012 6:50:23 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Maine Mariner

Open a processing plant in Canada and truck the beets there.


17 posted on 12/03/2012 6:51:08 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (George W. Bush is the Emmanuel Goldstein of the modern era.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Open a processing plant in Canada and truck the beets there.

Why bother? Canada has cheaper sugar to begin with because they don't have our insane sugar tariffs (intended to protect a handful of influential families in the southeast). They can just make the finished food products over there and ship them back to the States duty-free under NAFTA.


18 posted on 12/03/2012 6:55:27 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ILS21R

My prediction is that Michigan will be a right to work state in under 5 yeas and probably much sooner. Funny thing is that union panic is what will bring it about.

Lots of recent news on it here.

http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/pubs/mcc/


19 posted on 12/03/2012 6:58:29 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TurboZamboni

There is a double situation here.

North Dakota is a right to work state, but the sugar co-op benefits enormously from the federal sugar program, that price controls sugar in the US to as much as four times the price of foreign sugar. And the federal sugar program likely has a union requirement.


20 posted on 12/03/2012 7:00:34 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks.


21 posted on 12/03/2012 7:01:38 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything... IS... a conspiracy)
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To: TurboZamboni

Another story of how unions are trying to kill entrepreneurship while trying to elevate entry level jobs. Heard a Delta male stew - (likely gay, not that it matters), talk about the FOUR RAISES he will get this year and TWO NEXT year guaranteed. He works about 12 days a month, travels the carribbean and Amsterdam the rest of the time FREE.

I’m sorry, for handing out Biscoff’s and coke products? This is not sustainable.


22 posted on 12/03/2012 7:11:44 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

And there you have the solution.

Canadians doing the jobs the unions don’t want to do.


23 posted on 12/03/2012 7:12:55 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (George W. Bush is the Emmanuel Goldstein of the modern era.)
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To: Maine Mariner

does this mean we will use REAL sugar cane sugar?


24 posted on 12/03/2012 7:32:12 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Just wait till TSA unionizes.

groping will be protected by the gubmint.


25 posted on 12/03/2012 7:34:33 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

grapefruit growers simply had a machine designed and built when unions became an issue.


26 posted on 12/03/2012 7:38:32 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TheGrimReaper; SeaDragon

And here we go again.


27 posted on 12/03/2012 7:39:31 AM PST by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Possible, but remember sugar quotas require Americans to pay two to three times the world price for sugar.

The sugar industry is protected from world competition. Not just the growing but the processing too!


28 posted on 12/03/2012 7:40:44 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I think it would be more accurate to say, Canadian union workers doing the work American union workers won’t do”.


29 posted on 12/03/2012 7:41:49 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TurboZamboni

You’re right - another brain dead job, that we’ll be forced to over pay for. After this weekend, I’m laying down the law for my wife. NO flying - if drive is under 7 -8 hours (direct flight) or 10-11 hours (connection flight). It’s not worth it.

The human indignity of the TSA line, which is what this is all about to begin with. is training citizens to become sheeple.


30 posted on 12/03/2012 7:47:55 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: cripplecreek
Actually, I was mistaken. I was thinking of Florida Crystals, which has plants located in South Bay, Fl. They are sugar cane processors.
31 posted on 12/03/2012 8:14:06 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: TurboZamboni

The company is a co-op. it’s owned by farmers.


32 posted on 12/03/2012 9:09:24 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Vince Ferrer

“I doubt that any deal they make now will make up for the lost income over that 16 months.”

Yes, just think, every week that they are out costs them 2% of their annual pay, and still they are “sold a bill of goods” by their union leaders that they are “doing the right thing.” Those same leaders get paid whether their workers are on the job or not.


33 posted on 12/03/2012 9:52:49 AM PST by vette6387
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Delta flight attendants aren’t unionized.


34 posted on 12/03/2012 10:26:06 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Maine Mariner

Check Post #31. I corrected myself. But, thanks for correcting me.


35 posted on 12/03/2012 11:14:47 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: TurboZamboni; All
Leaders of the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers
and Grain Millers International union said in a news release
that the workers voted 55 percent to reject management’s
contract offer.
TWINKIES ALERT!....

the unions' thugs/bosses want to kill your
jobs; b/c it makes *THEM* feel good.
i really need/want; one of those
revolving-police-light (strobe)-thingee

36 posted on 12/03/2012 11:32:59 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: Mr. Lucky

You’re right...my bad on that....


37 posted on 12/04/2012 5:14:15 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: TurboZamboni

Byline: Fargo, ND.

Are they making sugar with beets?


38 posted on 12/04/2012 5:36:53 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: TurboZamboni

DUH! If I had read the article I’d have seen it’s beet sugar.


39 posted on 12/04/2012 5:38:59 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: old and tired

“And North Dakota is booming so there probably are other jobs for these workers to go to.”

Yes, but I suspect those other jobs are not at union shops. Which means that if these union workers took these jobs they would have to . . . really work, rather than union shop work.


40 posted on 12/04/2012 5:43:12 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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