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Norquist: 'Tea Party 2' Backlash if Obama Sends Nation Over Fiscal Cliff
Newsmax ^ | Dec 2, 2012

Posted on 12/03/2012 7:02:44 AM PST by KeyLargo

Newsmax

Norquist: 'Tea Party 2' Backlash if Obama Sends Nation Over Fiscal Cliff

Sunday, December 2, 2012 04:09 PM

Grover Norquist, the founder of Americans for Tax Reform, predicted a tea party backlash that would dwarf the movement’s success in the 2010 midterm elections if President Barack Obama pushes the nation over the “fiscal cliff.

“Tea Party two is going to dwarf tea party one if Obama pushes us off the cliff,” warned Norquist on NBC’s “Meet The Press.”

When asked “Are you over?” by host David Gregory, Norquist responded, “That was last week’s news.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 12/03/2012 7:02:54 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

I have not heard from the so called tea-party since the 2010 election.

did they sit on their laurels for those 2 years?

we won! now we are finished.

then came zer0 in 2012 and they were silent.


2 posted on 12/03/2012 7:08:10 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: KeyLargo

Conserve America Party File.


3 posted on 12/03/2012 7:09:21 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: KeyLargo
Photobucket

Walkin in a Winter Wonderland:

*************

Leftists sing, are you listening,

In Bohner’s brain, Reid is pi$$ing

A beautiful sight,

We’re happy tonight.

Walking in Obama’s wonderland.


**********

Gone away is the budget,

All we can do, is try to nudge it

Obama sings a love song,

As we go along,

Walking in Obama’s wonderland.


****************

In the meadow we can build Rice’s snowman,

Then pretend that she is Secretary State


*******************

She’ll say: Are you married?

We’ll say: No man,

But you can do the job

If thats your fate.


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Later on, we’ll conspire,

As we dream by Reichstag fire

To face unafraid,

The treason we’ve made,

Walking in Obama’s wonderland.


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In the meadow we can build a snowman,

And pretend that he’s Obama’s clown

We’ll have lots of fun with mister snowman,

Until the Constitution knocks Obama down.


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When in debt, ain’t it thrilling,

Though your wallet gets a chilling

We’ll frolic and play,in the fascist way,

Walking in Obama’s wonderland.

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4 posted on 12/03/2012 7:13:25 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: KeyLargo

As far as I’m concerned, there hasn’t been a GOP since it was taken over by the Democrats when their party was taken over by the Socialist/Communist party. The sooner registered Republicans realize that and starve the beast, the better.


5 posted on 12/03/2012 7:13:32 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: KeyLargo

Unfortunately, a significant number of Tea Party patriots are seniors who receive SS and Medicare. For those folks, taxes may be a secondary concern in all this.


6 posted on 12/03/2012 7:13:39 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: KeyLargo

The GOP leadership is still reeling from the election. The draconian nature of Obama’s plans are not being openly critiqued or receiving the ridicule they deserve. The TEA party must form a final line of resistance to save what’s left of the country. History will thank them.


7 posted on 12/03/2012 7:14:59 AM PST by allendale
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To: KeyLargo

” “If people watch this on C-SPAN, then you won’t have higher taxes,” he said.”

As long as the C-SPAN programming doesn’t interfere with “Dancing With The Stars”, “Wishing I Was A Kardashianhian” or “Jersey Showa”...or slow the public down from getting to the Jiffy-Mart to buy their Mega-Trillion Dollar Powerball ticket.


8 posted on 12/03/2012 7:15:48 AM PST by moovova
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To: allendale

It is critical that discussion includes jobs.

Jobs.

Jobs in America.


9 posted on 12/03/2012 7:15:57 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: KeyLargo

We begin forming a real national conservative party, now:

United States Independent Party -Taxed Enough Already ( USIP-Tea)

The GOP died when they dissed and outed Sarah Palin for being a genuine , honest American. EFF the GOP , we do not need the pricks.


10 posted on 12/03/2012 7:16:38 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Tau Food
There are 10 working days for this congress. Action is not likely.
The “cliff” is a DNC construct, designed for 35 second news blurbs.

I predict the year will end and the Bush tax cuts will go away. This will impact 2014’s tax returns. Plenty of time for a correction.

11 posted on 12/03/2012 7:17:07 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: KeyLargo

Conservatives are not going to defeat President Obama and the liberals until conservatives defeat the GOP.

The most important elections in our lifetimes are going to be the 2014 and 2016 primaries. The Tea Party and Values Conservatives (ie. GENUINE CONSERVATIVES) need to take over the GOP Establishment and throw every one of them out on their ear.


12 posted on 12/03/2012 7:19:07 AM PST by Perkalong (GOP 2012 = Whigs 1856)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Domestic energy (drilling for oil and natural gas, building Keystone) would mean plenty of jobs; bith directly and indirectly. It’s out there; let’s go get it.


13 posted on 12/03/2012 7:20:13 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: KeyLargo

Insha’Allah, eh, Grover? For you folks in Rio Linda, that means “God willing” in Arabic. But don’t worry, Grover knows what it means.


14 posted on 12/03/2012 7:20:54 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: allendale

NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE www.nationalreview.com

Fiscal-Cliff Negotiations
By John Fund
December 3, 2012 4:00 A.M.

Republicans had better wake up and realize that their negotiations with the White House aren’t so much about how to avoid the looming “fiscal cliff” as they are about President Obama’s attempt to cement his historical legacy as a great liberal hero by forcing them to repudiate their anti-tax pledges.

On Thursday, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner presented the White House’s position on averting the fiscal cliff. It called for $1.6 trillion in higher taxes,

http://www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/334607


15 posted on 12/03/2012 7:20:54 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Tau Food
Unfortunately, a significant number of Tea Party patriots are seniors who receive SS and Medicare. For those folks, taxes may be a secondary concern in all this.
Wrong, dead wrong. I'm one of them and I'm ready to EMBRACE the fiscal cliff it it would destroy Obama' s socialism. I'd take the hit without looking back for an instant. Don't forget the seniors know more about what we are losing than any other generation...we know how good it WAS...and we want it back for our kids and grandkids!
16 posted on 12/03/2012 7:22:25 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it STOOD...)
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To: Candor7

17 posted on 12/03/2012 7:22:39 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Vaquero

The T-Party energy turned out the vote that gave the GOP a second life. The GOP managed to squander this effort and will likely be discarded. What is next?


18 posted on 12/03/2012 7:24:21 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Of all of the Tea Party meeting and events that I have attended, most participants were seniors.


20 posted on 12/03/2012 7:26:56 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Tau Food

Ya know, there are untold billions that could be cut in less politically sensitive areas. Things like bike paths and PBS may be drops in the bucket but they do add up.

Granted we need serious entitlement reform but its pointless to expect it if they won’t even cut the little things.


21 posted on 12/03/2012 7:27:43 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Vaquero
That's what I would like to know.

What I saw in my state, the "party" (non party) was divided, two factions fighting over control of a non entity. rofl.

Then Glenn Beck seemed to stake a claim to the movement with his "big rally" in DC....which was GREAT but left us wandering around for more.

All this left us "the ralliers", homeless.

22 posted on 12/03/2012 7:28:15 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You can’t sell “jobs” to people who prefer handouts.


23 posted on 12/03/2012 7:30:00 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
Well said. While I'm not a senior, I am old enough to remember how good it was. I have younger children and I find myself constantly (yet subtly) trying to prepare them for the trials ahead based upon our current national trajectory. It's heart-breaking, in contrast to the time of my childhood.
24 posted on 12/03/2012 7:30:40 AM PST by Obadiah (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: teflon9

Yeah, let’s get rid of Evangelicals. Brilliant.

Welcome to FR.


25 posted on 12/03/2012 7:32:35 AM PST by Obadiah (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
Don't forget the seniors know more about what we are losing than any other generation...we know how good it WAS...and we want it back for our kids and grandkids!

If it weren't for public schools; our children would KNOW how 'good it was'.

26 posted on 12/03/2012 7:33:36 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Perkalong

I am not sure what the implosion of the GOP will get conservatives. We need to scrape together a coalition of conservatives, libertarians, and religious voters to win elections.

Instead of destroying the GOP, we need to keep putting up great conservative candidates in primaries. However, we need to follow Buckley’s advice and select the most conservative candidate that can win. This is tough to do, and we will mess up sometimes. But, it is worth the risk of losing the general election to elect conservatives in primary elections.


27 posted on 12/03/2012 7:35:51 AM PST by DontTreadFred
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To: teflon9
A few more of these clowns and we can kiss conservatism goodbye.

bullshit - two or three idiots dont define us - thats a libnews concept

sod off , troll

28 posted on 12/03/2012 7:36:39 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: annieokie

Tea Party vs. Progressive Republicans — Battle for the Soul of the GOP

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Critics, of course, will argue that Romney’s defeat in November signals a rebuff of these ideals. “The 2012 elections have been the undoing of the 2010 Tea Party tsunami that crashed upon Washington,” the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) proclaimed in November. “The Tea Party is over.”

But the actual election results suggests this declaration is a bit exaggerated and vastly underestimates the conservative Tea Party’s influence in the GOP.

Despite defeats in states like Indiana and Missouri, the Republican Senate caucus gained three new Tea Party-backed members with the addition of Ted Cruz of Texas, Jeff Flake of Arizona and Deb Fischer of Nebraska. In the House, the Congressional Tea Party Caucus had 60 members before election day. Of those 60, six did not seek re-election, seven lost their races and 47 were re-elected. In addition, candidates endorsed by former GOP presidential hopeful Rick Santorum’s conservative PAC — Missouri’s Ann Wagner and Montana’s Steve Daines — also secured victories for the right.

“The Election Day losers were not the so-called ‘tea partiers,’” Kibbe points out, “they were the candidates embraced by (and some hand-picked by) the Republican establishment who failed to run on the winning message of economic freedom.” When you boil it down, Kibbe argues, the lack of serious conservative candidates in 2012 meant many principled Republican voters chose to just stay home on Election Day.

This much is true — GOP turnout in 2012 was lower than both the 2008 and 2004 elections. Turnout this year dropped by 7.9 million voters, falling to 123.6 million from 131.5 million in 2008. This year’s underwhelmed electorate marked the first decline in a presidential election in 16 years. Additionally, only 51.3% of the voting-age population went to the polls. When you couple low turnout with a few obnoxious and offensive comments on rape from gaffe-prone politicians, it’s hard to say whether the GOP ran with bad policies or just bad candidates....

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/tea-party-vs-progressive-republicans-battle-for-the-soul-of-the-gop/


29 posted on 12/03/2012 7:38:15 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: teflon9

Evangelicals make up much of the TEA party. Sounds like you don’t even know what an “evangelical” is.


30 posted on 12/03/2012 7:38:47 AM PST by madison10
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To: allendale

“History will thank them”

I doubt it. Liberals are writing the history.


31 posted on 12/03/2012 7:39:28 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Obadiah

“Welcome to FR.”

Thank you.


32 posted on 12/03/2012 7:39:28 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: Tau Food
Not true. We oldies are more concerned than ever about what we are leaving to our future generations. Believe me on this.

For anyone to think that we don't care is so very wrong, we are watching the young with no jobs, no future, why go to college, etc..

Take every obama created disaster you/we see today and add to my list. WE are very concerned, this is not what we worked and saved for all our lives.

We have survived MANY "balloon bursts" over the years, just as our parents survived the "great depression", but NOTHING like this OBAMA total destruction of America we face today, this one is bigger than anyone can imagine it will be.

Our job now until we die, is to make sure our children survive, that's the best and all we can do now. PEACE

33 posted on 12/03/2012 7:40:20 AM PST by annieokie
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To: teflon9

YOu still trolling here?


34 posted on 12/03/2012 7:40:25 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: teflon9

“Just make sure they’re not evangelical wackadoos who think the earth is 6000 years old or that a woman’s uterus magically shuts down when she’s raped. A few more of these clowns and we can kiss conservatism goodbye.”

The GOP Establishment sandbagged Todd Akin. Todd Akin said something inarticulately, and rather than focusing on Sen. McCaskell, the GOP pounced on Akin. If the GOP Establishment had supported Todd Akin, he would have won. But that’s my point - the GOP Establishment would rather lose than have genuine conservatives in positions of power.

Concerning the reference to the age of the Earth - millions of genuine conservatives have a Bible-based understanding of the world. Pols like Rubio who foolishly disrespect millions of Bible-believing genuine conservatives do so at their own political peril.


35 posted on 12/03/2012 7:41:01 AM PST by Perkalong (GOP 2012 = Whigs 1856)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Not trolling, just trying (vainly, it seems) from keeping the GOP from going the way of the Whigs.


36 posted on 12/03/2012 7:42:31 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: MrB

That is not the case.

Our unemployment rate is 8%. And not improving.

American companies need to stop exporting American jobs.


37 posted on 12/03/2012 7:45:28 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: annieokie

Most seniors I know do not want any deal that reduces their SS or Medicare benefits. Many, many folks hate Obamacare, but support Medicare.


38 posted on 12/03/2012 7:46:10 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: teflon9
from keeping the GOP from going the way of the Whigs

Oh, your one of those "moderate types" eh?

There is nothing about the GOP worth saving, they are now the dems of the 90's.

This is a Conservative forum, not one for squishy mealy minded moderate trolls.

39 posted on 12/03/2012 7:46:16 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
Wrong, dead wrong. I'm one of them and I'm ready to EMBRACE the fiscal cliff it it would destroy Obama' s socialism. I'd take the hit without looking back for an instant. Don't forget the seniors know more about what we are losing than any other generation...we know how good it WAS...and we want it back for our kids and grandkids!""""".......

BINGO.......WELL WORTH THE REPEAT.

I too and many I know WILL TAKE THE HIT. Our generation has seen MANY "Balloon BURSTS", we were there at the beginning of the "GREAT SOCIETY" and could see today from back then. We do know what is at stake, we also knew some good times and we do want it back for our kids and grandkids.

40 posted on 12/03/2012 7:46:16 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“American companies need to stop exporting American jobs.”

Amen to that! But you’ll never hear al-Norquist or his Club for Growth buddies say that.


41 posted on 12/03/2012 7:47:12 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: annieokie

Exactly, we are partying on our grandkids’ dime. Time for the party to end.


42 posted on 12/03/2012 7:47:31 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: teflon9
A few more of these clowns and we can kiss conservatism goodby

Says the ladyparts voter who wouldn't know conservatism if it bayoneted her in the neck.

43 posted on 12/03/2012 7:48:08 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: Vaquero
I agree. I spoke to a few of these groups, and their numbers got fewer and less intense.

I think now, rather than a backlash, you'll see a lot of hunkering down, survivalism, moving money to the safest places possible, and so on. Protests won't do much at this point. Since the Dems won almost all their senate races, there is not even a threat there.

44 posted on 12/03/2012 7:48:08 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: jboot

“Says the ladyparts voter who wouldn’t know conservatism if it bayoneted her in the neck.”


Says the christo-jihadi who thinks the dinosaurs died off because they couldn’t fit on the Ark, and who’d pass out from shock if the pastor used wine instead of grape kool-aid at communion.


45 posted on 12/03/2012 7:51:59 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: Perkalong
Pols like Rubio who foolishly disrespect millions of Bible-believing genuine conservatives do so at their own political peril.

Rush juxtaposed the answer obama gave to a similar question with Rubio's, though they used different words they essentially said the same thing.

The only difference that we're seeing now is the reaction to each one because of who said it.

Rubio's answer was just fine, now his stance on immigration is another thing.

46 posted on 12/03/2012 7:52:24 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: teflon9

And how would you keep American companies from exporting American jobs?


47 posted on 12/03/2012 7:52:30 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Perkalong
Actually, Rubio did a GREAT job explaining the stupid “age of the Earth” question, which did not disrespect anyone.

You just disrespected those of us who think the “age of the Earth” is a very, very stupid question that does not impact deficits, spending, defense or any other important issue.

48 posted on 12/03/2012 7:53:34 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Tau Food; annieokie

The hoi polloi have spoken. For the time being, all politics comes down to expanding their access to Other People’s Money. But don’t lose heart. Someday very soon there will be no more of Other People’s Money to distribute and the natural order will be restored. After that we can rebuild the USA.


49 posted on 12/03/2012 7:54:28 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: KeyLargo; All

Year 6, in any 8 year Presidential term, is ALWAYS a disaster at the ballot box, for the Party in control of the White House.


50 posted on 12/03/2012 7:55:10 AM PST by Kansas58
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