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Norquist: 'Tea Party 2' Backlash if Obama Sends Nation Over Fiscal Cliff
Newsmax ^ | Dec 2, 2012

Posted on 12/03/2012 7:02:44 AM PST by KeyLargo

Newsmax

Norquist: 'Tea Party 2' Backlash if Obama Sends Nation Over Fiscal Cliff

Sunday, December 2, 2012 04:09 PM

Grover Norquist, the founder of Americans for Tax Reform, predicted a tea party backlash that would dwarf the movement’s success in the 2010 midterm elections if President Barack Obama pushes the nation over the “fiscal cliff.

“Tea Party two is going to dwarf tea party one if Obama pushes us off the cliff,” warned Norquist on NBC’s “Meet The Press.”

When asked “Are you over?” by host David Gregory, Norquist responded, “That was last week’s news.”

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To: teflon9

LOL. You have no clue. Now run along back to DU before you get butthurt.


51 posted on 12/03/2012 7:57:13 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: Kansas58

Usually, but not 1998. That was an exceptional case, though. The moral of the 1998 mid-terms is that if the party out of power wants to pick up seats, it should not give the popular will the “finger.” Voters remember that.


52 posted on 12/03/2012 7:58:04 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: teflon9

The Whigs lost because they stood for nothing.

You do not understand history.

Yes we have some human beings in our Party who make human mistakes.

I suggest you follow your own tag line and try to be more “positive”.


53 posted on 12/03/2012 7:58:04 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Your focus is all wrong.
When America respects the profit motive, the jobs will come back.
You can not expect American companies to make stupid business decisions and invest in America, with Obama in power.
54 posted on 12/03/2012 7:59:32 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: GBA

Well I will jump on that question while waiting for the other poster to answer:

We do so by country. Any country running a surplus with America pays a percentage fine on their goods, proportional to their percentage surplus the prior year.

Anyway lots of things would work, that is just one.


55 posted on 12/03/2012 7:59:32 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: KeyLargo
And to the rescue...Super Grover! /sarcasm I havent heard anything out of the "Tea Party" outside of FR in 2 years.
56 posted on 12/03/2012 8:00:50 AM PST by jakerobins
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To: Kansas58

I expect American companies to act like American companies.

That is simple.


57 posted on 12/03/2012 8:01:10 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: teflon9

You do not have much training in economics, either of you.

That is obvious from your posts.


58 posted on 12/03/2012 8:01:45 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Manufacturing ran like rats to 4th world dungheaps LONG before Zero came to power. Manufacturers like setting up shop in countries where they can pay 10 year old kids pennies per hour for sewing sneakers that sell for $100 at Foot Locker, and can dump their sludge in the nearest pond without anyone saying anything.


59 posted on 12/03/2012 8:02:11 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: Tau Food
Let me give you some perspective on their thinking.

Medicare was established under the "GREAT SOCIETY" scheme.

Immediately: WE started paying for that PONZI SCHEME, now for over 40 years, paying into it, and now to be shut out is just not right. WE PAID and paid and paid.

We also paid our SS. I wish the younger people would understand this. WE PAID, they took the MONEY right out of our checks, they stole it, that money is OURS, it is owed us and it is not WELFARE.

Now what we do want: WE WANT ALL unnecessary Items to be put on the TABLE. See Sen. Coburns list for starters, then add all the AID TO FOREIGN COUNTRIES who are also our enemy.

In those items ALONE is more than enough money to fund all other already "paid for" necessary & vital spending right here in the U.S.

What GOV't is saying is "Our enemies are worth more than our own people". That is a fact.

Why is it that the "OLD PEOPLE" keep getting crucified by the Gov't and attitudes of the young, we have carried the burden and NOW STILL only have the interest of the young in our minds.

You young need to start attacking GOVERNMENT FIRST before even discussing what us OLD people want or need.

60 posted on 12/03/2012 8:02:25 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Kansas58

I have a job.

:)


61 posted on 12/03/2012 8:03:00 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: jboot
I agree with you. My point is that he can get plenty of senior Tea Party folks on the street to oppose Obamacare. Cutting Medicare - not so much.

Both Obamacare and Medicare are socialist programs, but many seniors like one and hate the other.

62 posted on 12/03/2012 8:03:55 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
from keeping the GOP from going the way of the Whigs
Oh, your one of those "moderate types" eh?

There is nothing about the GOP worth saving, they are now the dems of the 90's.


This is a Conservative forum, not one for squishy mealy minded moderate trolls.


AMEN to that - time for the GOP to complete their suicide that was begun under GWB.
63 posted on 12/03/2012 8:04:16 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: teflon9

Say, you got thos DU talking points down pretty good!


64 posted on 12/03/2012 8:06:46 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: teflon9; All; admin; moder_ator

You are a hate filled jerk and I am asking that you be kicked off of these threads.

You do not belong here.

We have intense, heated debates on FR, and at times I cross the line, for which I am sorry.

You, however, do not seem to know where that line is.

All who agree please ping the Moderator.

Good bye.


65 posted on 12/03/2012 8:07:57 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

we know how good it WAS...and we want it back for our kids and grandkids!

Lost in the ‘50’s. If I only could.


66 posted on 12/03/2012 8:08:43 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: Las Vegas Ron
So the truth is now DU talking points? You weren't at Jonestown back in '78, were you Ron? On second thought, I doubt you were. You'd have drank the kool-aid first thing, and wouldn't be here now keyboarding away. LOL!
67 posted on 12/03/2012 8:09:42 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: annieokie
Immediately: WE started paying for that PONZI SCHEME, now for over 40 years, paying into it, and now to be shut out is just not right. WE PAID and paid and paid.

We also paid our SS. I wish the younger people would understand this. WE PAID, they took the MONEY right out of our checks, they stole it, that money is OURS, it is owed us and it is not WELFARE.

Yes, exactly. If you just add that you oppose Obamacare, you are expressing precisely what I am hearing from the seniors I encounter.

68 posted on 12/03/2012 8:09:55 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You are a socialist.
The Free Market should dictate trade.
Reduce taxes.
Reduce regulations.
Reduce lawsuit liability.

Business will improve dramatically!


69 posted on 12/03/2012 8:10:59 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Whatever.

I disagree with you.

That is why we have a place to discuss and debate.


70 posted on 12/03/2012 8:12:33 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Kansas58

Post 45 was a minor ribbing about evangelism, and you’re ranting like it was the crime of the century. Lighten up.


71 posted on 12/03/2012 8:12:51 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
You are, again, demonstrating your socialist thinking.

American companies have American stockholders, pensions, retirement plans, etc.

It is the legal duty of these companies to produce a profit for their owners, the stockholders.

The majority of the fortune 500 compamies have their home offices in foreign countries, today.

The majority of the profit, in the Fortune 500 companies, comes from OUTSIDE the United States.

We have the highests corporate income tax rates in the world.

Why don't you get OBAMA and the DEMOCRATS to “act like Americans” and lower corporate tax rates?

72 posted on 12/03/2012 8:13:56 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: teflon9
The only whackadoo here is you. Bill Whittle Advice on how to respond to Obama propaganda Press questions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryv7PzyCmVA&feature=player_embedded
73 posted on 12/03/2012 8:14:13 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
You are, again, demonstrating your socialist thinking.

American companies have American stockholders, pensions, retirement plans, etc.

It is the legal duty of these companies to produce a profit for their owners, the stockholders.

The majority of the fortune 500 companies have their home offices in foreign countries, today.

The majority of the profit, in the Fortune 500 companies, comes from OUTSIDE the United States.

We have the highest corporate income tax rates in the world.

Why don't you get OBAMA and the DEMOCRATS to “act like Americans” and lower corporate tax rates?

74 posted on 12/03/2012 8:14:21 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Cheerio

Thanks but I actually think it was GHWB with his “voodoo economics” and “kinder gentler nation” bs that really got the slide to the left going.

By using those slogans he completely demoralized the princples Reagan and the few Conservatives who were in the GOP stood for.

JMHO ;)


75 posted on 12/03/2012 8:15:59 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Candor7

That was neocon, empire-building, expansionist, stick-our-nose-in-Old-World-business prattle straight out of the AEI, Heritage and AIPAC playbook. If a REAL conservative like Pat Buchanan or the late Joe Sobran was within earshot of that clucking chickenhawk, Whittle would be sporting three new body cavities. We’re a republic, not an empire. The Old World has been nothing but a source of grief and mischief for the New World. Wackadoos (there’s that word again) like Whittle choose to ignore that fact.


76 posted on 12/03/2012 8:18:57 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
How would your plan prevent a company from exporting "American" jobs?

Your answer is very revealing, but maybe you should start by first asking why companies choose to do business elsewhere.

77 posted on 12/03/2012 8:19:16 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Kansas58; admin; moder_ator; teflon9

Ditto to Kansas58 post!


78 posted on 12/03/2012 8:19:57 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: teflon9
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79 posted on 12/03/2012 8:21:35 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: teflon9

Oh, did you post something truthful, troll?


80 posted on 12/03/2012 8:21:35 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: KeyLargo

We are already over the fiscal cliff - We cannot pay off 16 trillion in debt ever with this type of politics engrained in America.


81 posted on 12/03/2012 8:23:07 AM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: Candor7

Find that little gif wonder on 4chan, did you? Helluva non-response there, Condor. Guess I left you speechless.


82 posted on 12/03/2012 8:24:19 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: teflon9
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83 posted on 12/03/2012 8:26:40 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7

You’re the Guru of Gifs, I’ll grant you that.


84 posted on 12/03/2012 8:29:03 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: teflon9
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85 posted on 12/03/2012 8:31:44 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: teflon9
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86 posted on 12/03/2012 8:33:21 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: teflon9
Not trolling, just trying (vainly, it seems) from keeping the GOP from going the way of the Whigs.

They are on their way, by their own demand. And please, don't confuse "Republican" with "Conservative". There is some overlap, but one does not equal the other, as we conservatives are constantly reminded by the actions of the GOP leadership.

87 posted on 12/03/2012 8:33:21 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Candor7

That answers the all-important question “Is there such a thing as canine PTSD?” Poor pooch. : )


88 posted on 12/03/2012 8:34:59 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: Tau Food
Of course we oppose Obamacare, and of course we opposed MEDICARE FROM THE BEGINNING of that monster.

BUT, now that Medicare is a way of life, and the money for that PONZI SCHEME was stolen from out checks, we have to deal with it.

THAT MONEY was stolen from us, for our benefit down the road, we are at the end of that road now, and they want to STEAL it once again from us. HELL NO.

We also do not want to see the age for receiving SS & Medicare GO UP, further destroying our younger generation. That is not fair to them either. Do you see how we are continually thinking of you?

THERE is more than enough Revenues to pay for all necessary promised spending in America WITHOUT touching SS & Medicare.

FIRST spending cut: ALL AID TO FOREIGN ENEMIES, FIRST then see Sen. Coburns list. After all that, then we can talk about what else is needed.

Now if the question or option is: Kill Obamacare, Kill Medicare & Medicaid,(entirely), kill all WELFARE (corp. & foreign) I dare say that 100% of ALL OLD people would say Hooray to that, I would.

Would the YOUNG applaud us and remember our sacrifice, or still say we OLD are living too long?

89 posted on 12/03/2012 8:36:15 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Candor7
Oh my goodness, your .gif is GOAT, lol!
90 posted on 12/03/2012 8:39:39 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: teflon9

“Not trolling, just trying (vainly, it seems) from keeping the GOP from going the way of the Whigs.”

They seem to be doing a pretty good job of it by themselves lately.

Whether the GOP continues to head in that direction will be discernible from the results of the 2014 elections.

Historically, the party of the president loses strength in the midterm. We saw that in 2010.

But I sense that something has changed in America. Historically, a president presiding over an economy as bad as Obama’s (an economy HE created) would be defeated come election time. But Obama wasn’t defeated — he won.

The “old rules” no longer seem to apply. The old prognostications no longer work when applied to the situations we face today.

How the Obammunists move to consolidate their grip over America during the next two years leading up to that election will be telling, indeed. Whether the Republicans can rebuild as a national party — or even survive as one — depends on how vigorously they oppose the Obama putsch.

I’m going to go on record here (fully two years in advance) that the 2014 elections are going to be at best “a wash” for the Pubbies, and at worst another repudiation. (Aside: I would glady be proven wrong, but that’s how I see it). If the Republicans lose badly in the House, it will be all but over for them.


91 posted on 12/03/2012 8:40:01 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: KeyLargo

In the end, the laws of economics will prevail over the incompetence of the Republicans and the ill intentions of the socialists.
At least we will have the comfort of knowing that the 0-voters will suffer the most because they are incapable and ill-prepared for change.


92 posted on 12/03/2012 8:40:14 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: Candor7
The flashbacks one btw.



Genius, lol.
93 posted on 12/03/2012 8:42:17 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Agreed - GWB just picked up speed with his insane spending, and his COMPLETE lack of ability or desire to defend ONE SINGLE act during his 8 year administration.

I can remember many times wanting to throw something up against the radio when I heard the leftists blaming GWB for everything under the sun (where I get all my news - I never watch news on TV). As that little fat Rove loved to say "We are taking the high road and will not respond to the lies of the left" we see where that got us!!! They left stands up for everything they pontificate on and certainly don't let a few lies get in their way. I am not advocating lying as a tactic of the Republicans, but for God's sake respond to the LEFTISTS when you know you are in the right!

I changed my lifelong GOP registration to Ind after the shellacking of 2006 when it was all too clear that GWB was not going to take on Piglosi and Reid.
94 posted on 12/03/2012 8:45:03 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“I expect American companies to act like American companies.
That is simple.”

The problem is that even [the large] American companies don’t view themselves as “American” any more.

They consider their reach global, as do all other large companies.


95 posted on 12/03/2012 8:45:22 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: annieokie
I agree with everything you say about how many, perhaps most, seniors feel. That has really been my point. The problem is that when many seniors hear Norquist talk about "entitlement reform," they understand him to be talking about reducing SS and Medicare benefits. And, of course, that is what he is talking about. He believes that taxes are too high and that spending on SS and Medicare needs to be cut.

Personally, I think Obamacare, Medicare and Medicaid are all unconstitutional and should be terminated now, but I recognize that I hold a minority view on that point. Few seniors agree with me.

96 posted on 12/03/2012 8:48:13 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: KeyLargo
When you couple low turnout with a few obnoxious and offensive comments on rape from gaffe-prone politicians, it’s hard to say whether the GOP ran with bad policies or just bad candidates....

Very depressing isn't it....the tea party is still alive, we are just fractured.

The non voters this year....had a temper tantrum, imo, & so we got the devil they hated most. Until they grow up, we will never win. It is always the comment you hear "I won't vote for ......, because", happens every election.

Me: I don't need a spiritual adviser as a President, Senator or Legislator.

97 posted on 12/03/2012 8:50:41 AM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie

Me: I don’t need a spiritual adviser as a President, Senator or Legislator.


Exactly. Voters generally tune out would-be Jeremiahs, whether from the right (Rick Santorum re. sexual morality) or from the left (Al Gore re. “climate change”). When the electorate wants jobs and an economic rebound, all else is just background noise.


98 posted on 12/03/2012 8:56:52 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: Road Glide

“The problem is that even [the large] American companies don’t view themselves as “American” any more.

They consider their reach global, as do all other large companies.”


True dat. Multinational companies, by their very nature, have no concept of patriotism or national alliegance.


99 posted on 12/03/2012 8:58:16 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: Cheerio
Agree with your post 100%

I changed my lifelong GOP registration to Ind after the shellacking of 2006 when it was all too clear that GWB was not going to take on Piglosi and Reid.

I too have been a lifelong registered Republican. I proudly registered when I was old enough in 1979 then enthusiastically voted for Reagan in 1980 and 1984.

I've been loyal ever since, even giving my vote to McCain and Romney because the alternative was so bad...now I'm done with them unless they change back to the Regan model of Conservatism...not holding breath though...

I'm hoping for a new Conservative party to rise or I'll just vote for Conservatives that are on the ballot, no more RINO's!

100 posted on 12/03/2012 8:58:24 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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