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1 posted on 12/03/2012 11:25:04 AM PST by WilliamIII
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The Leftist Democrats will say “That’s old news”. They will argue it’s just a technicality, and ignore the point all together.


2 posted on 12/03/2012 11:27:38 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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It is a procedural technicality which will be ignored (or the ruling class will insist that it be ignored).


3 posted on 12/03/2012 11:29:43 AM PST by PGR88
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Technicalities don’t matter in a dictatorship.


5 posted on 12/03/2012 11:30:40 AM PST by shelterguy
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I could be wrong, but my understanding of how they circumvented that requirement was by using “gut and amend” - that is, taking an unrelated bill that had been passed by the House, stripping out the original contents of the bill, and “amending” the bill to include the Obamacare language. Under this process, the bill “technically” still originated in the House. The bill then just has to go back to the House for concurrence on the “amendment”.


6 posted on 12/03/2012 11:30:50 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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fubocare was written as a tax, and fubo’s own lawyer testified under oath that it was a tax...

but, is it an equitable tax?

with all the exemptions written into the bill, the first time someone has to pay it (2014) it will go to court.

either the tax is ruled unconstitutional, or those that got them there nifty exemptions will lose them..

this ain’t over by a longshot..


7 posted on 12/03/2012 11:31:21 AM PST by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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The court will rule that the Congress governs itself and if there is an objection on procedural grounds it must be raised within the Congress. If the rights of the House have been usurped then let the House object. Ordinary citizens have no standing to sue over such matters.


8 posted on 12/03/2012 11:34:18 AM PST by SeeSharp
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The court,as currently constituted,are in awe of the 21st Century’s Mao Tse Tung just as certainly as are about 50% of the population.Regardless of the Constitutional validity of this petition the SCOTUS will shoot it down...5 to 4.And,of course,Roberts will vote the wrong way.


9 posted on 12/03/2012 11:35:15 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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I and many others here have been saying from day one that it was unconstitutionally passed.


10 posted on 12/03/2012 11:35:56 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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The New Left has convinced much of our society to throw out the rule of law. The law is not just another tool for them to advance their agenda. The little people are irrelevant to them.


11 posted on 12/03/2012 11:36:56 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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We no longer live under the rule of law.

We live under mob rule.

Whatever the mob wants, it gets.

13 posted on 12/03/2012 11:39:15 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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There’s only one problem with this analysis: the Constitution is a dead letter.

It only means what the Supreme Court says it means.


14 posted on 12/03/2012 11:40:07 AM PST by Skepolitic
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I’m not very optimistic about this mainly because all this was known at the time of the original ruling. It was still ruled constitutional.


15 posted on 12/03/2012 11:40:19 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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If they ignore the fact that the Country is ruled by a kenyan would-be dictator, I’m sure where the 0bamascare monstrosity originated will also be overlooked.


16 posted on 12/03/2012 11:41:19 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty ( Fast and Furious , Benghazi - What's 0bama's current body count?)
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How A Legal Technicality Could Unravel Obamacare

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“Dr. Orly Taitz, please pick up the white courtesy phone. Dr. Taitz!”

I can see this now. Birthers (of which I am one of) going from legal technicality to the next one.

Hoo Boy!


17 posted on 12/03/2012 11:43:47 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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Obamacide will not be killed on a technicality. It might be mortally wounded when 20 or more states kick the legs out from under it by declining to set up exchanges at their own expense and put the burden on the Feds ..... and the ACA doesn’t provide funding for the setting up of exchanges by the Feds. Of course, the House Repubs would have to help out by starving the beast ....


18 posted on 12/03/2012 11:45:09 AM PST by MissMagnolia ("It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains" - Patrick Henry)
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Codeword: IPAB


28 posted on 12/03/2012 12:10:55 PM PST by twister881
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These people don’t care about technicalities, and neither do they care about legality.

(The rule of law ain’t no maw.)

IMHO


30 posted on 12/03/2012 12:14:03 PM PST by ripley
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With all the Waivers issued, what about filing suit on an Equal Protection of the Law basis?

Massive Waivers prove 0bamaCare is unequally applied law, contrary to the 14th Amendment.


34 posted on 12/03/2012 12:15:41 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Working is for suckers.)
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Constitution? What Constitution?

It's old, it's outdated, it was written by a bunch of rich old white men.

Who cares about the Constitution?

37 posted on 12/03/2012 12:22:25 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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RE :”The group's challenge turns on the Origination Clause in the U.S. Constitution, which requires that bills for raising revenue start in the House of Representatives.
Problem is, the group argues, Obamacare started in the Senate.”

Didnt they come up with a loophole for this, by getting the House to pass the exact same bill as the Senate did? The other trick was to gut a bill already sent over and replace the details. there were a total of 3 bills passed by each house, but 2 of each matched in each house signed by O, because of budget reconciliation.

I was thinking about this because Obama and Reid are demanding that the House pass that tax bill that the Senate already passed, so its exactly the same crap.

38 posted on 12/03/2012 12:23:12 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems want to win.The GOP wants to whine. Why dont they fight to win like Dems do?)
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