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To: kosciusko51
What should the GOP do? First, stop reacting and start thinking. Obama has been playing three moves ahead on the chess board while the GOP is playing a pitiful game of checkers.

This offer is a good place to start but it must be shouted out that this is what Obama wanted before the election. My suggestion is just give him what he comes back with (minus the control over debt ceiling). It will suck but the blame will go with the plan, which will be his.

The goal now is not save the economy but save the House, which is the only way to save the country.

13 posted on 12/03/2012 12:45:26 PM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911

So this deal in 2012 is going to save the House in 2014? I doubt anyone is even going to be thinking of this come 2014. There will be entirely new events that happen before then which will have way more impact on the election; all because voters have very short memories.


17 posted on 12/03/2012 12:48:36 PM PST by Windy City Conservative
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To: wtc911
Obama has been playing three moves ahead on the chess board

Obama is not that smart. Judging by the way he does everything else, it's a good guess that he does not play chess well at all.

He is, however, bold and reckless and not driven to find compromise or meaningful improvement, but rather seeks a legacy for his narcissism. He was raised in a culture where outlandish opening positions are taken for granted and lies and deception show skill in negotiating with an enemy.

Our culture is different and is based on mutual respect for opponents and a genuine desire for outcomes that benefit all. It's important to note when your opponent is pursuing a goal outside of your negotiating "boundaries" and adjust accordingly. If this had occurred previously, Obama would have been forced to adjust his style and he has not done that. Either that or he's just too stupid to be aware of what is going on. In that case, the negotiations should be suspended.

32 posted on 12/03/2012 1:04:26 PM PST by tentmaker (Galt's Gulch is a state of mind...)
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To: wtc911

Oh, come now...I play a mean game of chess and can’t play checkers worth a blast. Don’t insult checker players.

Seriously, both sides in this argument are just holding out for bigger bribes. The public interest is irrelevant.

The problem is that half the country is living off the paychecks of the other half. No one is addressing that problem. Not substantially.

It’s similar to the process that finally brought us ObamaCare: years of negotiations and massive bribing for both sides.

There’s no difference between them—this last election proved that. Just as long as someone kicks up cash for 2016...


34 posted on 12/03/2012 1:08:20 PM PST by warchild9 (I have GOT to update my profile!!!)
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To: wtc911
It will suck but the blame will go with the plan, which will be his.

No it won't. When you have a statistic coming out that a majority of voters STILL blame Bush for the economy, the blame will once again go to the GOP. It is very sad that we have so many Ill-Informed Voters in this country.
67 posted on 12/03/2012 2:09:26 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: wtc911

I agree. Give him everything he wants except control of the debt ceiling. Make him and the rats own it ALL. Let them take the blame in the aftermath of the fallout of yet another failed economic policy. I want to see every Obama voter suffer the consequences of their votes. It’s called revenge.


73 posted on 12/03/2012 2:57:53 PM PST by jersey117
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