Skip to comments.White House rejects GOP fiscal cliff counteroffer
Posted on 12/03/2012 3:02:08 PM PST by Olog-haiEdited on 12/03/2012 3:04:25 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
The White House is rejecting a Republican counteroffer aimed at averting the “fiscal cliff,” saying it does not meet what the White House calls “the test of balance.”
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I doubt that they so much as even read the cover sheet.
Obama wants it all HIS way - or there will be no deal at all. Because that’s the Chicago way.
>>saying it does not meet what the White House calls the test of balance.<<
obozo definition of “balance”:
Take the money from the stack created by makers and move it to the stack for tackers.
There, all balanced!
This was scripted-out back eighteen months ago. It’s an episode of WWE now. The week prior to Xmas...they agree to disagree, and put 90 extra days on the clock. End of March 2013, we end up in a mini-budget deal to last out through the end of December 2013....with zero budget cuts (just enough money to last 270-odd days). That’s the only way that this moves onto 2014, where a massive falling is scripted to occur. Count on bad economic numbers for all of 2013 and 2014.
Always remember that a Democrat’s idea of bipartisanship is that you have to do things their way. Period.
>>Take the money from the stack created by makers and move it to the stack for tackers.<<
Or even the stack for TAKERS.
(dang spell check didn’t understand what I meant)
Pubbies should let it all burn. It’s on Obama’s watch. The slugs and .gov groupies wanted it, LET EM HAVE IT.
It was a fraud. But not enough of Fraud for the white house to accept.
You mean, the GOP plan that is a near-perfect match for Obama’s own debt commission’s report?
Why would Obama reject this plan? It does exactly what he said he wanted - more revenue + spending cuts. Indeed, it raises more revenue than it cuts in spending (not a conservative plan).
There are a couple of reasons Obama would reject this:
1 - it doesn’t give him unrestricted control over the debt limit.
2 - He hopes that the country goes over the cliff so he can further implement his totalitarian Marxist ideology.
...And Obama raised the “Test of Balance” up on high, saying, “bless this “Test of Balance” that with it I mayest blow mine enemies to tiny bits.” And Obama did grin and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and large chu...”skip a bit, brother”... And Obama spake, saying, “First shalt thou take out the “Test of Balance” then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest the “Test of Balance” which is thy Holy Hand Grenade towards thy foe, who being naughty, shall snuff it.”
I think you are absolutely correct. Nothing will change from the past few years concerning a budget. There will be no “passed” budgets throughout ALL of Nobama’s years. There will be more executive orders, shifting of funds between departments, and executive “privilege” to funnel money to his cronies. They’ll pass a bill to keep the Bush tax cuts, but not for those in the $250,000 plus brackets, because the House will cave. Just watch it happen,
As a babyboomer set to retire in a decade, I feel my generation more than any is responsable more than anyone for all the ills and future ills to come.
For 30 yrs including Reagan and Clinton, I’ve listened to supposed Democratic future cuts that not only never happen but spending always increases.
I’d like to go over the cliff, then start talks after the holidays when the debt limit talks come up to have 10% cuts annually for 5 yrs IN WRITING getting down spending to 2.3trillion in 5 yrs then spending is frozen until the debt is paid.
It may take 20 yrs of pain but we’ve lived way beyond our means for too long.
The “Stupid Party” is an apt title of the Republicans in the GOP leadership.
Good. I’d reject it too.
[for different reasons of course]
Pass the Paul Ryan plan all over again with a few minor changes. If no plan is agreed to at least republicans can go on record that they submitted 4 plans or whatever the number is with zero counter offers.
Not sure this would be a bad scenario. Right now O's political capital is too high.
In 3 months more economic negative indicators will have kicked in, Obamacare rules will have been activated, and Obama's ineptitude will be seen in foreign affairs.
All political capital for our side to perhaps get a better deal.
Good. Shut ‘er down!
Oh, well. The Republicans should recess and try again right after return from Christmas and New Year’s.
There is reason to the madness of Reed's (sick!) no-budget govt, and Pelousy's when in power as well. It locks in the $787 Billion one-time stimulus to occur every damn time the Boehnerisses do a continuing resolution. If the "cliff" includes a shutdown such that the "one-time-stimulus-that-occurs-every-frickin-year", then all the better. It's just $787 billion continually going into Ø's slush fund.
The Democrats know that with the Black and Hispanic votes in their pockets, as well as virtually the entire roster of academics, media personnel, and Hollywood, there’s nothing at all to stand in the way of an all out socialist White House bringing on the Great People’s Cultural Revolution so coveted by the president, and the evidence of history with regard to Russia and China be damned.
As always in such cases, the ones most enthusiastic for such a revolution will be the first thrown under the bus.
However, there’s no point in citing historical precedent to these morons.
Wow, who didn't see THAT coming??
Things will continue to unravel, consequences will show up because of choices, and soon the griddle will get real HOT, and then the turkey will really trot. We can all laugh as he again will blame Bush, or the Congress. It won’t be his fault, but the Congress that refused to go along with his excellent non plan.
I’m a young boomer, I don’t feel responsible in the least.
I honestly believe that no matter what the Congress or Obama does, this is a no-win situation. it is absurd to expect the Congress that hasn’t produced a budget for three years will produce an agreement in less than 5 weeks.
Even zero knows that a deal isn’t in the works because he’s going on a 3-week vacation starting on the 17th. So, what does that tell you?
Either a deal isn’t in the works, or it’s a done deal... and this is the “pretend-we-work-for-the-people” variety show...
Why dont they just send over a sealed proposal and tell the Dems that you need to pass it to find out what is in it
Dismantle the entire federal government, including Obamacare as it is unconstitutional. We Americans want freedom and we don't need some stupid government to “take care” of us as we have ourselves, the free market , capitalism and technology to take care of ourselves using this tech.
Democrats want to enslave all Americans, taking away all our property and freedom .
Its about time we at least name the threat = the democrat party. This democrat communist Obama stole the election and wants to steal all our property.
My plan is:
Abolish all of the federal government except for defense and border and immigration control( do not let any more immigrants in legal or illegals). What do we need this stupid gigantic government for anyway ? for nothing . That means no more IRS, EPA, HUD, FEC , FCC, TSA, gov schools, dept of education, etc.
Dear Mr. Obozo:
Rather than spoil your upcoming vacation starting on Dec 17th, please call us when you get back into town so we can start all over again, first with pretending we are all serious in Washington about this country.
I have got to hand it to you, the average uninformed person (legal or not) living in this once great country thinks you really care about them, that your jack *ss party is run by all poor and taxpaying people, and that rich people (all who for some reason are in our party- go figure) got wealthy by stealing from those who are absolutely destitute. Maybe I can pick up a few tips, ... you know, hee hee hee. . .in case one of “my” rich lawyer friends wants to try a case in front of an Ohio jury.
John Corzine left me a voice message. He wants to know that if you appoint him, would I would put a good word in with old, viscious Mitch over in the Senate to lie down like a dead dog (fleas and all) and let him become our next Treasury Sec’y. Unlike Geintner, he did pay his taxes on time, . . .I think.
Finally, tell Moochie that her smashed overripened banana and avoacado dip is great diverse finger food - I eat it three times a day now. Lose at least 5 pounds every time I sit down, that is why I stand all the time now. Reminds me of a Chrissie Matthews telecast. Kids in junior high must love it.
Got to go.
Respectfully yours, Mr Bo(eh)ner
PS - You have any used teleprompters leftover from the election?
Sorry, should be “...proverbial redundant cliche ridden cliff”
Boehner’s Babies need to put together a budget, vote on it, pass it, then pass it to the senate. Continually running to BO and letting him kick you in the teeth only feeds the frenzy.
So what is “balance” to them? After all their proposal had 80% tax increases to 20% spending cuts