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The GOP Fiscal Cliff Counter Offer Is Brilliant—And It's Actually A Really Good Sign
Business Insider ^ | 12/03/2012 | Grace Wyler

Posted on 12/03/2012 4:39:42 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Republican House Speaker John Boehner offered the GOP's first counter-proposal in the fiscal cliff negotiations Monday, sending a letter to the White House that demands both parties negotiate from a middle ground.

The letter is actually a savvy tactical maneuver by Boehner, and underscores just how angered Republican leaders were by the White House's initial offer on the fiscal cliff.

That plan, presented to House Republicans by the Obama administration last week, called for $1.6 trillion in increased revenues, and closely mirrors the president's "Plan for Economic Growth and Deficit Reduction," which was submitted in September 2011.

In the letter Monday, Boehner blasts the Obama administration for failing to try to find common ground. Here's the key line:

"We cannot in good conscience agree to this approach, which is neither balanced nor realistic If we were to take your Administration's proposal at face value, then we would counter with the House-passed Budget Resolution [Paul Ryan's budget plan]."

Instead, Boehner doesn't counter with the Ryan budget, but proposes that the two parties use a neutral framework for negotiations: a plan outlined by former Clinton chief of staff Erskine Bowles during a November 2011 testimony before the supercommittee. That plan proposes increasing revenues by $800 billion by cutting loopholes and deductions for the wealthiest Americans, and cutting spending by a combined $1.2 trillion.

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To: plain talk

One idea might be to give them what they want - we will go back to Clinton era tax rates. The Dems have to go back to Clinton era expenditures.

I could live with that.

41 posted on 12/03/2012 6:00:30 PM PST by BruceS
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To: Sergio

Obama sent a ridiculous, stupid, liberal wet-dream proposal. OBoehner should respond in kind.

SHUT DOWN depts entirely, Education, Energy, EPA, (etc. keep naming more departments for every day there is no budget), in fact, shut down the IRS, too. Stop all funding to foreign countries, Eliminate baseline budgeting trickery, explain it on the airwaves, cut all taxes to no higher than 10%, Eliminate permanently all death taxes, cut off all funding for vacations for the Executive Office, and cut all salaries of elected officials to $1/year. Any attempt to pass Executive Orders will be with even more cuts in the Executive branch’s funding.

Obama wants to play stupid dictator, play stupid right back at him. Threaten to shut down the government unless your budget is passed ASAP. They want to play with nukes, throw them back at ‘em harder. Make EVERY DAY with out a balanced budget ever more painful. Every day.

42 posted on 12/03/2012 6:13:39 PM PST by Big Giant Head
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To: Lurker

Yep...decreases in future increses.

43 posted on 12/03/2012 6:17:44 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: cableguymn

Any argument that calls for expanding the base subject to federal income taxes is not a winning argument. The current Conservative position is that the federal income tax is just another failed government program to be abolished.

44 posted on 12/03/2012 6:29:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

That works to. I’d MUCH rather have a consumption tax.

45 posted on 12/03/2012 6:36:04 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: SeekAndFind

Unregistered guns, ammo, power, metals, food. And quickly.

46 posted on 12/03/2012 6:37:45 PM PST by gotribe
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To: SeekAndFind
We don't need taxes at this point. No tax economy, and print money and lend it to the federal reserve. Take a hit for inflation. If we are a tax free state, then we would be a 25 trillion GDP instead of a 15 Trillion GDP economy.

Now, we are taking a double hit, money printing inflation hit, and taxes on top, this is killing our economy and we are needlessly importing oil.

If we allow oil drilling on federal land, we can become an oil exporting country.

47 posted on 12/03/2012 6:39:47 PM PST by agincourt1415 (Tired of the current State, and Federal Tax System go here:
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To: SeekAndFind

Since Obama moved into the White house, he has done nothing but sabotage the country. When will Congress stand up for our Constitution and represent the people? Taxes need not be raised for anyone! Opening the pipe line from Canada, cutting damaging regulations on business, drilling oil here now, and cutting out obsolete departments and spending in general is the only way to get the economy going and revenues will automatically increase grandly!

48 posted on 12/03/2012 6:44:03 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: SeekAndFind

I also have been thinking of all the better ways the House could play this. But its been 4 weeks since 0bama won “the most important election of our lifetime”. It was called that over & over for a reason. Boener and his offer (and maybe a little in a counter-counter offer) are all we get.

...If we continue to look towards DC for any answers.

49 posted on 12/03/2012 7:01:13 PM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: SeekAndFind

RINO File.

50 posted on 12/03/2012 7:12:04 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: SeekAndFind

So the Obama - Geitner move pays off.

Obama calls for 200 % of what they want. Instead of countering with 0% we offer the “middle ground” of 100% of what Obama wants in hopes to settle for 150%.

The Speaker is a light weight.

51 posted on 12/03/2012 8:13:02 PM PST by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years. RSC)
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To: Tzar
We gotta spread the wealth around!

Pretty soon there will be no wealth left to spread around. We are already back to 1969 levels.

52 posted on 12/03/2012 8:21:44 PM PST by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: Lurker

The concept of a reduction in the growth of spending equals a cut in spending is a poison that could only exist in DC.

The House should just pass a bill they like. The House has the only constitutional authority to write this legislation. They hold the power, and should not give it up. If they want to compromise, they should get something in return for everything they give up.

If the Republican party fails to use the authority they were elected to carry they should and will be replaced by a party that will.

53 posted on 12/04/2012 5:08:24 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Crusher138

“So you want to get rid of the charitable donation deduction?”

Don’t know. I give from my heart, not because I can write it off.

54 posted on 12/04/2012 3:08:17 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (George W. Bush is the Emmanuel Goldstein of the modern era.)
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