Skip to comments.The Myth of Northern Innocence
Posted on 12/03/2012 4:55:51 PM PST by John S Mosby
Burly-and-bearded country singer Trace Adkins ruffled all the usual feathers and bruised all the usual feelings when he dared to wear a Confederate battle flag earpiece in full view of gasping national TV viewers while singing The Christmas Song in the Yankee stronghold of Rockefeller Center on November 28.
Adkins, who belches out such venerable neo-country chestnuts as Honky Tonk Badonkadonk and Brown Chicken, Brown Cow, was subjected to the predictably rage-stroking vilification that comes whenever anyone suggests that the American South has ever been anything beyond a rancid cultural cesspool of lynching, incest, bestiality, racism, toothlessness, retardation, and yes, racism, even though I said it twice.
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I had to post this fact-based commentary on the former President, who was not superhuman, nor the ONE (though obamao is desperately trying to hijack Lincoln's aura,like he did Reagan before, as some kind of saviour to his "brothers"- NOT! This is laughable in that he is a muslim who believes in slavery of nonbelievers and the govt. plantation).
Needless to say the South has a lot to say about obamao, and NOT because he is a so-called "black" (he is not- he is a mulatto)- but because his goal is the destruction of the United States of America and our Constitution. For which an inordinate number of Southerners have fought and died since the War Between the States. And for which we will fight, again-- the Bill of Rights and our Constitutional Republic. The comments at the end of the article are heated, informed and uninformed, but they bring up even more items for Progressive Yankees(who put up a Massachusetts governor to defeat a Yankee based foreign Marxist-- that was smart, huh?) to chew on as they try to revive this empty suit, mind and chair of a notpresent__dent. In Hoc Signo Vinces. Deo Vindice.
Sorry. Link to Emmanuel of God Chi-Town:
1858: “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will for ever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. (Lincoln, 1953, v3, p145-6)
1858: “We profess to have no taste for running and catching n*****s , at least I profess no taste for that job at all. Why then do Iyield support to a fugitive slave law? Because I do not understand that the Constitution, which guarantees that right, can be supported without it. (Lincoln, 1953, v3, p317, see also p91 and p94))
1859: “Negro equality! Fudge! How long, in the government of a God, great enough to make and maintain this Universe, shall there continue knaves to vend, and fools to gulp, so low a piece of demagogism as this.” (Lincoln, 1953, v3, p399)
1860: (Douglass comment) In the struggle between the white man and the negro, assumes that there is a struggle, in which either the white man must enslave the negro or the negro must enslave the white.There is no such struggle! This good earth is plenty broad enough for white man and negro both, and there is no need of either pushing the other off. (Lincoln, 1953, v4, p20)
1862: (To an audience of free Blacks.) I think your race suffer very greatly, many of them by living among us, while ours suffer from your presence I need not recount to you the effects upon white men, growing out of the institution of Slavery. I believe in its general evil effects on the white race. (Lincoln, 1953, v5, p37-3)
1862:”My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves, I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that... I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free.” (Appelman, p29)
That was something Lincoln scribbled down on a scrap of paper. It's hard to know what exactly he meant by it. Was he saying that racial equality was nonsense and demagoguery, or that charges that Republicans favored racial equality were nonsense and demagoguery?
Do you really think he was more troubled by a few people who believed in Negro equality than by the many Democrats who had charged him with believing in it? Obviously, like virtually everyone in his day Lincoln did not believe in racial equality, but his attitude towards the idea may not have been as violently opposed as one might think. In any event, it's not something Lincoln actually said.
Parading around the Confederate flag similar to parading around the Mexican flag. Both fought against the US. Americans (Republican led) crushed the Confederate traitors (demonrat led) who wanted to preserve their third-world feudal society.
Isn’t it time we got in their face for once?
It isn’t the Confederate flag. The original Confederate national flag was the “stars and bars.” What Adkins was displaying was the Confederate battle flag, the banner under which men as brave and noble as their union brothers fought. The Confederate battle flag was incorporated in 1863 as the union part of the Confederate national flag. So, I’d say go ahead and protest as much as you want about the Confederate national flag; leave the battle flag alone.
You should read Frederick Douglass' "Oration Delivered Upon the Occasion of the Unveiling of the Freedmans Monument in Memory of Abraham Lincoln." It's easy to find. Here's the best part:
I have said that President Lincoln was a white man, and shared the prejudices common to his countrymen towards the colored race. Looking back to his times and to the condition of his country, we are compelled to admit that this unfriendly feeling on his part may be safely set down as one element of his wonderful success in organizing the loyal American people for the tremendous conflict before them, and bringing them safely through that conflict. His great mission was to accomplish two things: first, to save his country from dismemberment and ruin; and, second, to free his country from the great crime of slavery. To do one or the other, or both, he must have the earnest sympathy and the powerful cooperation of his loyal fellow countrymen. Without this primary and essential condition to success his efforts must have been vain and utterly fruitless. Had he put the abolition of slavery before the salvation of the Union, he would have inevitably driven from him a powerful class of the American people and rendered resistance to rebellion impossible. Viewed from the genuine abolition ground, Mr. Lincoln seemed tardy, cold, dull, and indifferent; but measuring him by the sentiment of his country, a sentiment he was bound as a statesman to consult, he was swift, zealous, radical, and determined.
I’ve heard of bringing Illinois voters back from the dead, but Abe in 1953?
I fly the “ bonnie blue flag “ most ppeople don’t understand what it represents, where it came from or how it has been incorporated into other flags.
Those that know it’s history understand and those that don’t leave me alone.
YOU won; so YOU get to write your own version of history. I have enough on my plate stomaching and defending myself from the Marxist/Communist that your northern cesspool cities have foisted upon us “damned rednecks” down here in the Bible Belt. - Yep. My great,great grandfather fought at Shiloh in the Rebel army, and probably fired the FIRST SHOT at Fort Sumter, SOUTH Carolina because YA’LL WERE DOWN HEAH!
Land of Lincoln, indeed. - Maybe in the next life we’ll not have to live under this load of crap dumped on us by this “modern day Lincoln”. If Lincoln had been so brilliant he surely could have seen that slavery was on its way out anyway due to industrial innovations.
God didn’t smile on chattel slavery anyplace. The new Confederacy would have been stronger sans that institution — not weaker.
The Bonnie Blue flag. I display that one and the Come and Take It flag. See my website for a free Texas: www.freetexasconstituttion.wordpress.com.
The Obama-as-the-reincarnation-of-Lincoln folks ought to take that and run with it.
I don't recall anyone ever claiming that the North was "innocent," but it certainly claimed to be the aggrieved party in the years leading immediately up to the Civil War because the Kansas-Nebraska Act repealed the Missouri Compromise (which opened up "Bloody Kansas") followed by the Fugitive Slave Act and the Dred Scott decision (not to mention the caning by Preston Brooks of Senator Charles Sumner). From being confined to places where it had always been practiced it is obvious that the "slave power" was indeed attempting to spread the "peculiar institution" throughout the entire country.
While it's true that the anti-slavery movement can be compared in some ways to the contemporary Left, it can also be compared to today's social conservative movement in that it was being forced to see (and be complicit in) the spread of something it believed to be morally wrong and it was being told to shut up and take it.
The first seven states seceded before Lincoln had even been inaugurated, knowing full well that he had no intention of interfering with slavery where it already existed. They basically pitched a hissy fit because the candidate of a non-extentionist party (which is what the Republican party was) was elected at all--a true temper tantrum in every since of the word.
If the Southern states had stayed put slavery would have continued unmolested there and there would have been no war--but they had a rod up their butts because they wanted slavery to spread throughout the nation.
Before the neo-Confederates jump all over me, I remind them that the South was as divided as the North and that I am myself a proud descendant of Southern Unionists (and Repubicans).
The mechanical cotton picker didn’t come into use until 1942. Slavery wasn’t dieing out because of technological innovation in the 1800’s. Some places it just didn’t fit very well like the great plains. That did not stop the slavery advocates from trying to push into that area.
How many Confederate Officials and Military Officers were tried for treason after the war?
Really? That is like saying you are chaste whore.