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New lawmakers urged to reject God, prayer
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | November 12, 2012

Posted on 12/04/2012 5:30:38 AM PST by ilovesarah2012

New House and Senate members are being urged to reject an invitation to join the 105-strong Congressional Prayer Caucus by the influential American Humanist Association which claims there is no evidence of God or Heaven.

In a letter to new lawmakers following last week's election, the group warned that Prayer Caucus members too often push legislation that favors Christianity and Christian social morals and that senators and congressmen should abide the Constitutionally mandated separation of church and state.

They also indicated opposition to the practice of opening and closing each session of Congress with a prayer, which "relegates non-religious Americans and others who don't pray to the status of second-class citizens," according to American Humanist Association Executive Director Roy Speckhardt.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: atheists; congress; prayer
I will never understand why atheists care if others believe in God.
1 posted on 12/04/2012 5:30:43 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

There are none so arrogant as born again atheists.


2 posted on 12/04/2012 5:34:34 AM PST by sauropod (I will not comply)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Atheism is a religion. It is a pure matter of faith — they believe that God does not exist. What we see here is the continued attempt by one religion (atheism) to get itself Established as the official religion of the nation. They want to stamp out the competition.


3 posted on 12/04/2012 5:37:41 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Very true. I try to look at them as just lost people who need Jesus, but honestly, I would like to punch them in the face!


4 posted on 12/04/2012 5:39:15 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Atheists can not prove there is no God. They are so angry that they strike out and try to take away the rights of others.


5 posted on 12/04/2012 5:39:35 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I would also add that in my opinion, most atheists actually do think that God exists. And this scares them. And angers them. They don't like God. They are hoping they can make Him go away by putting their fingers in their ears and saying "I can't hear you!"

But He's not so easily blocked.

6 posted on 12/04/2012 5:39:54 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: mountainlion

>>Atheists can not prove there is no God.>>

Absolutely!


7 posted on 12/04/2012 5:43:53 AM PST by kitkat
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To: ilovesarah2012

These gnats think that anyone in Washington is going to either pray or not pray due to what they say?


8 posted on 12/04/2012 5:48:09 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Without space things do not exist, and without time events do not occur. What directs the body and brain is a real and happening ‘thing’, existing in some where/when we have yet to acknowledge because we do not sense it directly. Christians and other religions call that ‘thing’ the soul. To deny its existence is step one in denying that The Creator made that ‘thing’ and thus deny The Creator. Normally, such raving would be called delusional. Because of political correctness run amok (as democraps are wont to do, always!), such ravings are hailed as ‘enlightened’.


9 posted on 12/04/2012 5:51:05 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Because with faith comes morality and the judgment of peers. Take away the faith and there are no moral restrictions. It’s called evil and it does exist.


10 posted on 12/04/2012 5:57:43 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: ilovesarah2012

“...atheists care if others believe in God.”, For the same reason the criminal doesn’t like it when the cop is holding the flashlight.

As long as God remains in the public square, the sin of the faithless is illuminated.


11 posted on 12/04/2012 5:57:43 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Some things stated by Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who was imprisoned in a Russian Gulag:

“Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.”

“If I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible what was the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: ‘Men had forgotten God; that is why all this has happened.’ ”

“The meaning of earthly existence lies not, as we have grown used to thinking, in prospering but in the development of the soul.”

“I have spent all my life under a Communist regime, and I will tell you that a society without any objective legal scale is a terrible one indeed. But a society with no other scale but the legal one is not quite worthy of man either.”

“We didn’t love freedom enough.”

“Our envy of others devours us most of all.”

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Personally, I think that many atheists and secular humanists are subconsciously envious of those who believe in God.


12 posted on 12/04/2012 6:08:51 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Are these atheists just as rabidly against islam or is it just Christianity they are after?


13 posted on 12/04/2012 6:26:58 AM PST by bergmeid (FUBO)
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To: bergmeid

Appears to just be Christianity. I don’t recall them telling Ellison not to pray.


14 posted on 12/04/2012 6:32:17 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ClearCase_guy

I believe that Atheists believe that God exists, and that they can punish Him for their lonely lot in life.

I see that they want to believe they have more control over the world, and to prove it, their mission is to make it so others doubt God’s sovereignty.

In their war against God, they have to believe that He exists.


15 posted on 12/04/2012 6:32:38 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: ClearCase_guy

“the Constitutionally mandated separation of church and state.”

Can someone point out where in the Constitution this is?


16 posted on 12/04/2012 7:00:47 AM PST by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I will never understand why atheists care if others believe in God.

For the same reason roaches hate someone turning on the kitchen light.

17 posted on 12/04/2012 7:04:19 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: SumProVita
Great reply.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, one of the greatest witnesses to the power of belief in the Lord and, on the other hand, the negative power of those who deny Him.

FMCDH(BITS)

18 posted on 12/04/2012 7:32:52 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: bergmeid
Are these atheists just as rabidly against islam or is it just Christianity they are after?

Most excellent question, but I think we know the answer.

Christians don't put "fatwas" on people who deride them, do they?

FMCDH(BITS)

19 posted on 12/04/2012 7:38:49 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: ilovesarah2012; windcliff; stylecouncilor

The United States was not founded by atheists, but predominantly by believers. Cut out the roots and the Tree of Liberty will surely die.


20 posted on 12/04/2012 7:39:29 AM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

The Tree isn’t dead yet, but I think it’s on life support.


21 posted on 12/04/2012 7:42:16 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

“I will never understand why atheists care if others believe in God”

Me either. I once held a job in the same building complex as Madelyn Murray O’Hare’s American Atheists organization in Austin, Texas.

Bitter, hostile and belligerent hardly begins to describe the ugly face they showed the world. Fanatics dedicated to a negative principle really bewilder me.

Anyway, the proof is in the pudding I guess, as it was a member of that organization that murdered and chopped up her and her family, for the mundane reason of theft.


22 posted on 12/04/2012 7:47:17 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Not so "commanding", not so "inevitable".)
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To: onedoug

Statists cannot tolerate people who hold to a greater loyalty than the State. Even the relatively easy going Romans were incensed by this. I’ve even seen it here a few times.

“Country First” sounds good on first hearing, but it is a whacked priority.


23 posted on 12/04/2012 7:50:11 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Not so "commanding", not so "inevitable".)
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To: Psalm 144

God is not mocked.


24 posted on 12/04/2012 7:59:49 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
New House and Senate members are being urged to reject an invitation to join the 105-strong Congressional Prayer Caucus by the influential American Humanist Association which claims there is no evidence of God or Heaven.

Neither is there any scientific evidence for right and wrong or good and bad or "social justice" . . . but that doesn't keep atheists and humanists from acting as if there were.

25 posted on 12/04/2012 8:09:32 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I don’t believe in atheists.


26 posted on 12/04/2012 8:15:36 AM PST by EternalVigilance (America's creed: Our rights come from God, not men. Governments exist to secure those rights.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I don’t either.


27 posted on 12/04/2012 8:22:12 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Agnostics I’m not so sure about.


28 posted on 12/04/2012 8:23:24 AM PST by EternalVigilance (America's creed: Our rights come from God, not men. Governments exist to secure those rights.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Government is the religion of the American Humanists.
29 posted on 12/04/2012 8:23:58 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: EternalVigilance

LOL


30 posted on 12/04/2012 8:25:29 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ClearCase_guy
I would also add that in my opinion, most atheists actually do think that God exists. And this scares them. And angers them. They don't like God. They are hoping they can make Him go away by putting their fingers in their ears and saying "I can't hear you!"""""......

Glad you said that and I AGREE.

Atheists DO BELIEVE IN GOD (the I AM), there is no other reason to protest HIM, if HE did not exist.

31 posted on 12/04/2012 8:37:39 AM PST by annieokie
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To: ilovesarah2012

beause many important laws have some kind of morality reason behind them. libs know it, conservatives know it. he whole “you can’t legislate morality” is garbage and both sides know it. while you can’t force everyone to obey any law, you can pass a law that is based in a moral viewpoint. and most people respect the rule of law, and if no, fear consequences of breaking the law.

it boils down to which sides’ morality is going to win. the atheists are pissed they are a very small minority, and are terribly unsuccessful at gettng people to their viewpoint. they want their morality codified in law, but lack power and suppot to do so. if they were the majority, like all libs, they’d be screaming about majority rule and “more people believe what they do so the law must change to reflect the will of the people” when they are the tiny minority, you get the current system is tyranny of the majority, the majority are stupid and need to be saved from their stupidity, etc.


32 posted on 12/04/2012 8:56:49 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: annieokie
The apostle Paul already had their number a couple of thousand years ago:

Romans 1

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.


33 posted on 12/04/2012 9:10:03 AM PST by EternalVigilance (America's creed: Our rights come from God, not men. Governments exist to secure those rights.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

3:26 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtGDoq0wyZU

This video shows the destruction of the Cathedral of Christ the Saviour, which occurred in Moscow, USSR on 5 December 1931, under the militant atheism of the Soviet Union.


34 posted on 12/04/2012 9:24:03 AM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: donna

I believe it could happen here eventually.


35 posted on 12/04/2012 9:26:45 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
I will never understand why atheists care if others believe in God.

Without God the state is the only god. We are made in the image of God. That makes us sovergn onto ourselves, individuals, and at odds with their god. We are the enemy of their belief system, their core. We also reminder them of the battle within, the inconsistency that exist in their worldview. Remember that ones's individual rights and statism are mutually exclusive.

36 posted on 12/04/2012 9:28:44 AM PST by UpInArms (without failure there's no success only slavery)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I will never understand why atheists care if others believe in God

If it doesn't make sense, then somewhere the premise is wrong. These "atheists" obviously care very strongly and deeply in something (a God of their own, I guess) else besides God. Wouldn't you say?

37 posted on 12/04/2012 9:35:47 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: EternalVigilance
Simply stated, they are: "haters of God,".

But, powerless to stop HIM. Amen

38 posted on 12/04/2012 9:44:25 AM PST by annieokie
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