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Windows 8 outsells Windows 7
The Telegraph ^ | 28 Nov 2012 | Jennifer O'Mahony

Posted on 12/04/2012 6:07:15 AM PST by SmokingJoe

Sales of the Windows 8 operating system, which was launched on October 26, were driven by upgrades rather than users purchasing the software on new machines, according to Reuters.

Microsoft sold 60 million Windows 7 licenses in two months, compare to 40 million licenses of Windows 8 in one month.

Tami Reller, finance and marketing head of Microsoft's Windows division, said yesterday: "Windows 8 upgrade momentum is outpacing that of Windows 7," speaking at an investor conference held by Credit Suisse.

Previous versions of Microsoft operating systems sold considerably fewer licenses than Windows 8 in a comparable period, with XP shipping 8 million units in the month following its launch in 2002, and Microsoft Vista selling around 10 million licenses in the first 30 days following its introduction in 2006.

In raw figures, Windows 8′s first month has been around twice as strong as for Windows Vista, and four times as strong as that of Windows XP

However, there is now a much higher volume of PC users worldwide than in 2001, and Windows 8′s upgrade price is far less than it has traditionally charged for new versions of Windows.

Upgrading to Windows 8 costs £43, compared to £88 for the full software package or £399 for the new Microsoft Surface tablet running Windows 8.

Many of the sales are to PC manufacturers, who in turn sell a large number of machines to companies, very few of which are using Windows 8 yet.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: apple; microsoft; windows7; windows8
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To: Brookhaven
The fact that YOU don’t own one, doesn’t mean it still isn’t going to be an advantage for MS.

Oh, I get that. I was celebrating the fact that Microsoft had not sucked me into its empire, not that the empire didn't benefit Microsoft.

51 posted on 12/04/2012 7:33:35 AM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: Chickensoup

Microsoft is trying to be like Apple with the annual OS deployments. Microsoft’s problem is its market. Apple’s OS is generally mated to proprietary hardware, thus the OS can be streamlined. Since Microsoft’s market share consists of PCs of every stripe, deploying a new OS every year is not only foolish but could be financially disastrous to them. They should focus on maintaining and securing their existing popular OS, Win7, and stop worrying about what Apple is doing.


52 posted on 12/04/2012 7:33:47 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia
It’s unfortunate, to me, that we’re migrating away from desktops.

I'm not a gamer, so I read your post as if you were saying, "It's unfortunate, to me, that we're migrating away from superjumbo jets."

People have needs and the market is meeting those needs. Servers will always be in boxes and may have liquid cooling. Cloud systems will require SANs and hot-swappable processors. But most of us need the ability to read useful information, write documents, create presentations, and manipulate spreadsheets.

A transformable tablet just seems to be the way to go. And my wife will like anything that keeps her from constantly being prompted by various applications to perform an update. Since she doesn't need the portability, I'll probably go with at Chromebook for her.

53 posted on 12/04/2012 7:37:33 AM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Microsoft’s old operating system strategy was withering away. People are less and less interested in having a dedicated device that does everything locally and stores everything locally (and has to be backed-up and maintained locally).

With the growth of “the cloud” (which is just a fancy name for remote date storage and access) devices and their applications are becoming thinner.

And, after all, what is an app? Microsoft Office is really just an app. Apps can be as simple as a game, or as complicated (and large) as an office suite.

An app is just a different approach to accessing an application.


54 posted on 12/04/2012 7:39:02 AM PST by Brookhaven (theconservativehand.com - alt2p.com)
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To: Brookhaven

The ultimate benefit for the consumer is to allow the consumer to be able to move from one machine to another and keep doing whatever it is they are doing, whether it be productivity or leisure.

The reason for those colourful tiles, which I do agree that they can be off-putting to those not used to them, is to allow the user to check for updates on whichever programs he has on his computer without having to actually open any programs to check. So, for example, you could check for stock market updates or news updates without having to click on the apps responsible for these two functions.


55 posted on 12/04/2012 7:39:10 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: rarestia

The OS companies are preparing for the day when you’re cellphone is your only computer. You would just dock it in whatever station, desktop, laptop, or tablet is appropriate for your required situation.

Right now, it is my understanding that the higher end cell phones have about the same computing power as desktops in 2004, or so. It’s just that its form factor is inadequate to do the same things that a desktop could do in 2004.


56 posted on 12/04/2012 7:45:52 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: SmokingJoe
I don't care if it outsells ice water in hell. I will not buy it, and I will not support any computer in my extended family that has it. My son has a Mac - he knows he is on his own.

By 2015, we will probably be an all-Linux/Android household.

57 posted on 12/04/2012 7:46:15 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: ArGee; All

unfortunatly people do not realize that cloud computing has ZERO confidentiality or privacy. Thus those doctors or lawyers who use “cloud computing” have exposed your personal data.

Also people don’t realized that after 180 days NO SUBPOENA is needed for any police agency to snoop your personal information.

Something to think about when you hire that big law firm or go to your doctor.

(now will come in the “I walk on water and am holier than thou” posters)


58 posted on 12/04/2012 7:46:20 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

I agree with you here. I like where Microsoft is heading, but I do not like cloud computing one bit. The only safe data is the data nobody has physical access to. It doesn’t matter how long your encryption may be if somebody has your data, they will eventually be able to access it.


59 posted on 12/04/2012 7:52:41 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“How many milli-seconds can you use it before the error message pops up and it locks up?”

I still am running the same install of Windows Vista that I started with in 2008.

From power button press to usable desktop = 21 seconds
Last reboot - almost 3 months ago.
Last Virus infection - never
Currently running in memory - 5 IE sessions, 1 Excel 2010, 1 Access 2010, 1 session of Visio, 1 session of Mini Ninjas and 1 COD4.

Home built Intel Q6600 quad core, 4 gig of ram, GeForce 8800 GTI video card. It was a hefty PC when I built it but not crazy specs. Thing is I watch where I browse and don’t continually screw with it and install crapware.

However, I have had to fix pc’s with more tool bars in IE than browser space so I know they get crapped up. As with anything YMMV and to each his own.


60 posted on 12/04/2012 8:01:38 AM PST by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: SmokingJoe

Windows7 is great, have it on a few computers and doubt I’ll be “upgrading” to Windows8. But it looks like a hit for Microsoft on tablets and mobile devices, good luck to them I have no use Apple


61 posted on 12/04/2012 8:07:41 AM PST by dennisw (With age comes wisdom.)
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To: Syntyr
However, I have had to fix pc’s with more tool bars in IE than browser space so I know they get crapped up. As with anything YMMV and to each his own.

Its appalling how many people acquiesce to invasive toolbars. They are oblivious to them. No wonder so many entities try to insert them. I removed one yesterday

62 posted on 12/04/2012 8:11:56 AM PST by dennisw (With age comes wisdom.)
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To: dennisw

They are a pain to get rid of. I’ve had some that took me hours to figure out how to move along.


63 posted on 12/04/2012 8:54:57 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Of course they also get the Fisher Price start menu for their trouble. “

LOLOL

Perfect!


64 posted on 12/04/2012 8:58:27 AM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: bigbob

Windows 2000 Pro, perfect.


65 posted on 12/04/2012 9:00:07 AM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: SmokingJoe
Steve Ballmer's Nightmare Is Coming True
By Jay Yarow | Business Insider


. . .

1. The iPad eats the consumer PC market.
2. Employees gradually switch away from using Windows PCs for work.
3. Windows 8 fails to stop the iPad.
4. Loyal developers start to leave the Microsoft platform.
5. Windows Phone gets no traction despite the Nokia deal and RIM's collapse.
6. Office loses relevance.
7. Microsoft's other business applications start to erode.
8. The platform business collapses.
9. The Xbox was never going to make up the slack, and Microsoft can no longer afford to keep investing in it.
10. Microsoft suffers a huge quarterly loss. Ballmer retires to play golf.

. . .


66 posted on 12/04/2012 9:04:59 AM PST by Kegger
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To: ArGee; Jonty30

I am a gamer, yes, and existing mobile devices are a decade behind existing platforms for high-end gaming. That’s not to say they won’t catch up faster than it took those platforms to get where they are now, but gaming on a tablet or smartphone is no where near as effective, efficient or fun as playing on a large-format TV with surround sound.

I’m a realist. I understand that the market wants people on smaller mobile devices. However, there will always be a need for static, stable platforms until the market can develop a large-format platform capable of interfacing with those mobile devices while utilizing processing power better than what can be provided by that mobile device. Virtualization technologies are certain to lead that charge, but there’s little to suggest a market emerging in the next 5-10 years that will satisfy the high-end graphics and processing requirements of the newer breed of interactive games.


67 posted on 12/04/2012 9:10:58 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: SmokingJoe

I had no trouble with Vista, I liked it. Now Windows 8 SUCKS! I HATE it.


68 posted on 12/04/2012 9:16:13 AM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: soycd

“The first command required for a PC with Windows 8 or Vista on it is “format c: /q””

I tried this and now my laptop won’t boot up. What else should I try?


69 posted on 12/04/2012 9:20:37 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

>I tried this and now my laptop won’t boot up. What else should I try?

There is still a layer that needs fixed. Right after powering it on, press the “Del” key (or F1 for older PCs) until you get a bios screen. Find the advanced options and raise all the voltages to max and hit F10 to save.

This is the brick or boat anchor converter procedure.


70 posted on 12/04/2012 10:02:55 AM PST by soycd
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To: Jonty30

Usually go to add-ons and eliminate them there. Plus sometimes you have to go to programs in control panel and eliminate them there too


71 posted on 12/04/2012 10:21:01 AM PST by dennisw (With age comes wisdom.)
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To: rarestia
there’s little to suggest a market emerging in the next 5-10 years that will satisfy the high-end graphics and processing requirements of the newer breed of interactive games.

In general I agree with you, but that's actually a little bit of a chicken and egg paradox. I remember when Doom was a high-end game. If people keep making better games that demand better hardware, you'll be right. But if the games makers decide there's more money in finger fun for phones, (phinger phun phor phones?) then there will be little demand for better desktops, and the effort to develop them will fade.

72 posted on 12/04/2012 10:22:25 AM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: ArGee

You would still have a market of games unsuited to the current crop of mobile devices. You couldn’t run Battlefield, Crysis, Planetside, Assassin’s Creed III, or World of Warcraft on any of today’s tablet or smartphone offerings. There’s simply not enough to processing power.

The only thing I could see happening, if the extinction of the desktop is a certainty, is the birth of dedicated gaming platforms like the PS3, XBox, or Wii. The newest generations of these machines will be on par with the latest the market has to offer. It’s sad that enthusiasts like me will be left in the dustbin of history, but in the grand scheme of computing, this is not surprising. Those who don’t adapt, die.


73 posted on 12/04/2012 10:28:24 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: soycd

“This is the brick or boat anchor converter procedure.”

Thanks a lot. My laptop started smoking. I called tech support, and now they are laughing at me in Bangalore. I don’t think you are trying to be helpful.


74 posted on 12/04/2012 10:45:30 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: SmokingJoe

Just install “classic shell” and windows 8 is fine.

Never have to deal with metro again, it boots up straight to desktop and gives you the classic start menu.


75 posted on 12/04/2012 11:09:47 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: rarestia
You would still have a market of games unsuited to the current crop of mobile devices.

I hear ya'. I have my original Descent 1 CD that I wish I could still run on something.

76 posted on 12/04/2012 1:06:15 PM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: driftdiver; ShadowAce

I think it would be accurate to say that MS biggest hope with W8 is in the mobile market which it is lagging behind - as PC sales drop.

Any upgraded OS should replace the existing one on the same platform; the challenge MS is taking on is leverage their PC share into the phone/pad/mobile market.

Getting into the hardware business - competing with its VAR base is going to also be interesting.


77 posted on 12/04/2012 4:31:07 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Yosemitest
Duh?
What year did Windows XP come out,

Win 8 has so far, also sold faster than Windows 7 and Vista, which only came out a few years ago. I see you conveniently left that out of your little rant.
Chuckle!

“and what was the population then?”

The populationtoday, is not four times bigger than it was in 2001(when XP came out), I can tell you that. Yet Win 8 has so far, sold 4 times faster than XP did.

Many military people, both retired and active duty, that I communicate with, have dumped Windows for the less virus prone Apple Operating Systems.”

The iSheep never fail to disappoint.

78 posted on 12/05/2012 6:43:19 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Yosemitest
Duh?
What year did Windows XP come out,

Win 8 has so far, also sold faster than Windows 7 and Vista, which only came out a few years ago. I see you conveniently left that out of your little rant.
Chuckle!

“and what was the population then?”

The populationtoday, is not four times bigger than it was in 2001(when XP came out), I can tell you that. Yet Win 8 has so far, sold 4 times faster than XP did.

Many military people, both retired and active duty, that I communicate with, have dumped Windows for the less virus prone Apple Operating Systems.”

The iSheep never fail to disappoint.

79 posted on 12/05/2012 6:43:32 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Something is really wrong about this article.


80 posted on 12/05/2012 6:45:02 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: faucetman

When Vista was first pushed out, it failed to transition the XP Home Edition user in a familiar-enough way. But now, with the passage of time, Vista Service Pack 2 installed on a computer built for Vista seems to work very nicely. Not all XP computers were ready for totally successful upgrade to Vista or 7. Many users were led to believe it was easy to upgrade their old Presario or Optiplex to Vista and 7.


81 posted on 12/05/2012 6:55:23 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: Kegger
Nice iSheep fairy tale you got going there, mate.
In real life..

http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=

82 posted on 12/05/2012 6:55:53 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Kegger
Nice iSheep fairy tale you got going there, mate.
In real life..

http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=

83 posted on 12/05/2012 6:56:01 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
Nice iSheep fairy tale you got going there, mate. In real life..

I don't understand the point you are trying to make. Please elaborate.
84 posted on 12/05/2012 2:09:12 PM PST by Kegger
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