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Ageism in hospitals Žleaves elderly heart attack and breast cancer victims to dieŽ
Daily Mail ^ | 12/4/12 | Sophie Borland

Posted on 12/04/2012 7:33:15 AM PST by Nachum

The elderly are being denied life-saving treatment for heart attacks and surgery following breast cancer, a report warns. [Snip]This year the Government promised to end ageism in the Health Service and introduced laws that enable the elderly to sue if they are unfairly refused treatment. But a report today warns that patients in their 50s are three times more likely to be offered an emergency treatment for heart attacks than those in their 80s. And some hospitals are refusing to offer the treatment to anyone over 75 at all. The procedure--a percutaneous coronary intervention--widens blood vessels and has been credited

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ageism; die; elderly; hospitals
If you were a politician, and the public recognized that you were the one who condemned their loved ones to die- do you think you might be a little.... afraid?
1 posted on 12/04/2012 7:33:21 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Politicians get security details, and most Britons are disarmed anyway. They have nothing to fear.


2 posted on 12/04/2012 7:35:21 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Nachum

It’s so nice of them to allow elderly patients, denied treatment for life-threatening conditions, to sue! Why, they should get their day in court in just a few years, which is really hardly any delay at all, considering that the plaintiffs will be old and suffering from untreated, life-threatening illnesses (in order to have standing to sue).


3 posted on 12/04/2012 7:36:45 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Nachum
If you were a politician, and the public recognized that you were the one who condemned their loved ones to die- do you think you might be a little.... afraid?

In addition to the politicians and judges, I want to know who will be serving on 0bama's Death Panels, so I know who has the power of life and death over my family and myself? Just curious.

4 posted on 12/04/2012 7:38:33 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty ( What have you heard about Fast and Furious or Benghazi lately?)
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To: Nachum

This is why our politicians exempt themselves from CommieCare. They are too indispensable, doncha know. The rest of us are just useless eaters after 75, consuming too much health care. There will be a rude awakening for seniors when this ugly regimen kicks in.


5 posted on 12/04/2012 7:39:13 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee

Aren’t Congress members covered by Medicare when they turn 65?


6 posted on 12/04/2012 7:40:12 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Holder’s people, no doubt. They’ll treat you just like those hatted poll workers would.


7 posted on 12/04/2012 7:41:04 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Nachum

My guess is that if you pressed the administrators they would confess to being biased against the old and the white. This is a natural consequense of allowing all this anti-white propaganda free reign. Now if these breast cancer patients were old and non-white then the usual suspects would call this a national tradgedy.


8 posted on 12/04/2012 7:45:52 AM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: coloradan
Holder’s people, no doubt. They’ll treat you just like those hatted poll workers would.

This guy is not going down without a fight, and I suspect I am not alone in that attitude.

9 posted on 12/04/2012 7:54:00 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty ( What have you heard about Fast and Furious or Benghazi lately?)
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To: Nachum

10 posted on 12/04/2012 7:56:54 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: junta

In Britain’s Nationalized Health Care guess who the new younger doctors and nurses tend to be? From Pakistan Jamaica and the Third World. Same will happen here. Lots of foreigners will become doctors here because US citizens will find being a doctor low paying and not worth it. But if you come from India, China, Pakistan its a great deal

These new MDs do not identify with old white patients


11 posted on 12/04/2012 8:02:15 AM PST by dennisw (With age comes wisdom.)
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To: Nachum

While I’m no fan of socialized medicine we need to be a little careful here. Studies show that folks in their upper 80s and 90s actually do worse if we intervene in the cath lab than if we treat medically. With breast cancer there are some nontoxic chemos that should be given everyone regardless of age. But the rigorous chemo treatments require healthy heart and kidneys to begin-something that people in their upper 80s and beyond rarely have. With the elderly it is very easy to cause more harm than good with drugs and treatments. While no one should be denied treatment based solely on age we also need to be careful the treatment we use will not cause harm.


12 posted on 12/04/2012 8:04:15 AM PST by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: nascarnation

“Aren’t Congress members covered by Medicare when they turn 65?”

Once 65 and eligible for Medicare, they can still buy so-called wraparound plans to fill any gaps in coverage.


13 posted on 12/04/2012 8:04:39 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Nachum
The elderly are being denied life-saving treatment for heart attacks and surgery following breast cancer, a report warns.

Coming soon to Europe and America....

The "Patriotic Solution" will consist of a plastic bag and a rubber band given to those in need of medical care but for whom the cost of such care will exceed the government limit.

14 posted on 12/04/2012 8:35:43 AM PST by TheDon (In 2012, American voters doubled down on the first affirmative action president.)
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To: Nachum
Thankfully none of this will ever happen to 76 year old Osama Obama,Harry Reid or Bella Pelosi.
15 posted on 12/04/2012 8:36:39 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: Nachum

My mom was a “landed immigrant”in Canada.. so she was “covered” by their health care. At 88 she had a heart attack..the local hospital was closed so she was held for hours and finally sent to a Niagara Falls Ca. hosp.. There she got basically no care.. they ‘held” her in Er for a couple days, ran a few tests and then sent her to the old folks floor, no monitoring , nothing but bed changes and food..
There were NO specialists at the hospital in a city that sees thousands of sight seers from all over the world..just one lone “internist ‘to serve as the health gate keeper there..
If this had happened in the states she would have been in cardiac intensive care and seen a cardiologist ...
When we got her out of there and brought her to her US cardiologist he could not believe how they “cared for her”...

My mom is not a “frail elderly” , she is now 92 and still loves to shop and go out.. they treated her that way because of her age ..
America has no idea what they voted for


16 posted on 12/04/2012 8:38:48 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Mom MD

As long as these decisions are being made between a doctor and patient, I have no objections. The article mentioned that fewer than 5% of women in their 80’s have breast reconstruction after mastectomy and nearly 100% of women in their 50’s do.

Is this because women in their 80’s are being denied or is it because their health is too fragile to withstand a cosmetic procedure?

I’ve always wanted to have breast reconstruction surgery for a birth defect. It was on the list of ‘things’ after the kids were raised and our finances were in order.

But I recently went through a major spinal surgery and now I don’t know if I have it in me to go through that much pain and risk for something that only my husband and I ever see anyway.

If I were 80 and had just survived breast cancer, I think I’d be about done with vanity at that point.

Again, if it’s the patient and doctor deciding what’s best - fine. But if it’s some bureaucrat dictating how patients are treated, no way.


17 posted on 12/04/2012 8:58:09 AM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Nachum

The same thing is coming soon to the US. Obama adviser Steve Ratner makes this quite clear in a recent NY Times editorial titled “Beyond Obamacare” in which he proclaimed “We need death panels” and argued rationing must be instructed to sustain Obama’s health-care plan.


18 posted on 12/04/2012 9:10:43 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Marie

Totally agree. I was just pointing out another explanation for the statistics. Believe me, no one hates socialized medicine or Obamacare more than I do- it’s going to coat me the last 10-15 years of a career I have been at almost 30 years. But we need to be intellectually honest with are arguments. And there are PLENTY of solid arguments against Obamacare. Good luck on your decision about surgery!


19 posted on 12/04/2012 10:04:08 AM PST by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: Mom MD

Are=our. Typing on iPad!


20 posted on 12/04/2012 10:05:15 AM PST by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: Mom MD

I feel for you doctors. I was just looking over my statement from my ENT referral. The doctor charged $180 for the visit and TriCare gave him only $20.

$20 friggin’ dollars for a specialist. Insane.

Have you thought about going to a ‘cash-only’ practice?

(I was just reading up on this topic this morning.)

https://neucare.net/NeuCare/Home
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/758140

My daughter is going with a CO chiropractor and said that it’s a completely different experience. Everyone is happy and she doesn’t feel like a cow being prodded down the chute. She’s switching to TriCare Standard and the co-pays are about the same as the CO visits anyway.

From what I understand, a doctor doesn’t make as much money with CO, but the reduction of stress and increase in quality of life might make up for that.


21 posted on 12/04/2012 10:21:28 AM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Nachum

This is the future of American Medicine in about two years, maybe two months.


22 posted on 12/04/2012 10:33:25 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: Nachum

Liverpool Care Pathway means “let them die”... can it get much more Orwellian?


23 posted on 12/04/2012 10:39:58 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Marie

I treat only hospitalized patients so that wouldn’t be possible. Bur I have often wondered why we as physicians let the government pay us roughly 30 cents on the dollar. Other major insurers do the same. I’d like to be able to go to home depot and tell them I will pay 1/3 of their asking price for new carpeting!


24 posted on 12/04/2012 11:06:59 AM PST by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: KeyLargo

Just like I do, right?
I don’t see where they are exempt from Obamacare?


25 posted on 12/04/2012 12:23:36 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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