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Senior MP Ann Clwyd says her husband īdied like a battery henī in hospital
Telegraph ^ | 12/4/12 | John-Paul Ford Rojas

Posted on 12/04/2012 3:08:55 PM PST by Nachum

Ann Clwyd broke down as she spoke about the final moments of Owen Roberts, who contracted pneumonia after being admitted.[Snip] She said her husband was squashed against the side of his bed, his lips dry, and cold from a fan that had been turned on for a patient in an adjacent bay. A light had been flicked on in the four-bed ward and someone shouted out “anybody for breakfast?” just moments before he died., Ms Clwyd said. She painted a picture of nurses who treated her husband with “coldness, resentment, indifference and even contempt"

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: annclwyd; clwyd; nhs; notmedicalcare; obamacare; romneycare; socializedmedicine
Cluck cluck... (I am practicing for obamacare)
1 posted on 12/04/2012 3:09:01 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

A bed to die in if yer lucky.


2 posted on 12/04/2012 3:13:29 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Nachum

And this, America, is what you just voted for. Enjoy!


3 posted on 12/04/2012 3:13:41 PM PST by opus86
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>> She painted a picture of nurses who treated her husband with coldness, resentment, indifference and even contempt”

Seems like criminals to me.


4 posted on 12/04/2012 3:13:46 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Nachum

A rational person has to decide when to commit suicide rather than suffer.

ObamaCare. We didn’t see the growing threat until too late.


5 posted on 12/04/2012 3:14:16 PM PST by y6162
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To: Nachum

“Free” healthcare is worth exactly what you paid for it.


6 posted on 12/04/2012 3:17:15 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

This is how your treated if you’re part of the establishment ,, this man was part of the propaganda machine , BBC Radio4 ... just imagine how bad it is for you if you’re nobody.


7 posted on 12/04/2012 3:18:59 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Nachum

I don’t know about the rest of the country, but here in liberal California, when I contracted Pneumonia, I was put in a private room. Something about it being dangerous to other patients in a semi private room. But then, what do I know.


8 posted on 12/04/2012 3:22:35 PM PST by navyblue (<u>)
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To: reg45

“Free healthcare” costs a fortune through taxes...


9 posted on 12/04/2012 3:23:17 PM PST by LastNorwegian
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To: y6162

This whole thing (Obamacare) was planned to drive you to suicide before you cost Holy Mother the State too much money. And believe me, confronted with the idea of ending their lives under the tender mercies of the state, as the English do, a lot of people will consider this.

And that’s exactly why pro-suicide laws, even the “involuntary suicide” formerly known as murder, is being done by our most “progressive states.” (Most are in the Pacific Northwest and New England...what is it about the northern climes that makes them depressive and progressivist?)


10 posted on 12/04/2012 3:23:20 PM PST by livius
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To: navyblue

That was then and it was in the US. But this article from the UK is our future, after Obamacare and its progressive desensitization have really kicked in.


11 posted on 12/04/2012 3:25:35 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

Dunno. It must be a post industrial revolutionary thing.

On the other hand, all my family died of cancer from working in the mills. So..

At least they wern’t killed by communists.


12 posted on 12/04/2012 3:28:23 PM PST by y6162
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To: Nachum

In the end, it is the State above all else. New blood is being indoctrinated to serve the State and worn out blood is set aside to languish like so much worn out junk...and so it goes. This is the epitome of evil.


13 posted on 12/04/2012 3:29:11 PM PST by TADSLOS (No need to watch the movie "Idiocracy". We're living it.)
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To: TADSLOS

I did not spend 28 years protecting a STATE, but I sure was defending my country. White is black, up is down, and there is no difference between right and left politicians.


14 posted on 12/04/2012 3:44:23 PM PST by weps4ret (Republicans are suffering from Testicular Atrophy!!!)
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To: Nachum
It sure sounds to me like the “Give a Damn” Factor is missing from Gubmint health care. Kinda like them folks down at Social inSecurity and the DMV.
15 posted on 12/04/2012 3:48:21 PM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: y6162

This is care designed by lawyers, folkes, what do we expect.

They use terrorists to get their “muslim child support” cut to the mid east.

And they will use patients from inner cities to get their “medical care support” cut to and from doctors.

They have public education as an in between in communication between parents and children, and the list of big gov extortion goes on.

RINOs like the idea of this taxation and bilking and billing “the dead beat tax payers”


16 posted on 12/04/2012 3:48:49 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: TADSLOS

Cheating breeds dependency, false science breeds dependency, and dictators love when their population cheats and has no brain nor discipline nor character and nor morale to be able to think independently.

Nothing good is coming out of this, and the useful idiot dictators of AMerica are not going to take this to heaven or to any good future. They do not care, they are like that idiot retaining for a biscuit no matter what at the welfare office.


17 posted on 12/04/2012 3:52:27 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Nachum

The cold heart of state socialist “care”!


18 posted on 12/04/2012 3:55:37 PM PST by ABrit
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To: y6162

People died of common or work-related illnesses in the past because there weren’t the technological and scientific means to save them and give them a few more years, no matter how much or how little money they had. In the future, they’ll be dying because they’re no longer productive economic units for the State.


19 posted on 12/04/2012 3:56:30 PM PST by livius
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To: y6162

Oh we saw it alrighty. Unfortunately those folks who steal elections and the others who are illegal and of course those to stupid to understand re-elected him.


20 posted on 12/04/2012 3:56:54 PM PST by Nifster
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To: JudgemAll

You’re insane. Get help. Libertarian bs.


21 posted on 12/04/2012 4:04:02 PM PST by y6162
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To: Nachum

Anyone who did that to a battery hen (I guess they’re talking about compartments in a chicken coop) would get in trouble.


22 posted on 12/04/2012 4:06:24 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: y6162

These persons are not the only ones to blame but they are a big part of it. Would you condemn a libertarian if he reported that he freely saw the sun rise in the east?


23 posted on 12/04/2012 4:08:08 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: y6162

Take a few with you before you go!


24 posted on 12/04/2012 4:16:40 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Working is for suckers.)
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To: y6162

As you say, it is too late. O’Bummer won a second term and will allow mandates to drive insurance rates to incredible heights. The evil insurance companies will be blamed, and socialized medicine will be the only replacement.

The English people despise their brutish system. But they never get rid of it because they are so scared and feeble.

Coming to America.


25 posted on 12/04/2012 4:51:47 PM PST by heye2monn (A)
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To: Nachum

Does MP Clwyd mean this isn’t what she meant when she voted for all that NHS stuff?

I say he got exactly what he deserved, and so did she.


26 posted on 12/04/2012 4:56:04 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: y6162

“A rational person has to decide when to commit suicide rather than suffer.”

I disagree. A rational person should open fire on these Nazi health care providers and then flip the AK banana clip over to fire the next 30 rounds.


27 posted on 12/04/2012 5:11:28 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Nachum

In Britain, if you are of means, like it sounds this woman and her husband were, you can afford a private doctor and a private hospital.

So, they apparently wanted “free” health care from the NHS so much that they “got what they paid for”.

Seriously, what do you expect from government health care other than the bare minimum, the cheapest everything, and understanding that the “culling” of patients is a cost saving device?

Socialized medicine’s big priority is “equal” health care, instead of quality health care. So if “equal” means you die in your own filth from starvation and neglect, socialists are fine with that.

In their sick minds, it doesn’t matter if 99% of people get good health care, if 1% don’t.


28 posted on 12/04/2012 5:35:17 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: sergeantdave

Someday the dems will wake up as if from a dream but it will be too late.


29 posted on 12/04/2012 5:37:00 PM PST by LookingUp
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To: Neidermeyer
This is how your treated if you’re part of the establishment ,, this man was part of the propaganda machine , BBC Radio4 ... just imagine how bad it is for you if you’re nobody.

Weren't our lawmakers smart enough to exempt themselves from Obamacare?

30 posted on 12/04/2012 5:49:22 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Nachum

what’s she bitching about, she’s part of the government that created their socialist utopian healthcare system.


31 posted on 12/04/2012 6:52:53 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Nachum

That’s why you take him home and love on him yourself, so he won’t have to die such an obscene death. If you love someone then you take them home to feel loved while they die. No sympathy for the woman, great empathy that this poor man was married to her and had to die like this.


32 posted on 12/04/2012 11:21:39 PM PST by tinamina
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To: Moonman62

Weren’t our lawmakers smart enough to exempt themselves from Obamacare?
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Naturally they are exempt , as are all Muslims as “insurance” is a form of gambling..


33 posted on 12/05/2012 3:42:20 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: y6162

Meet your new doctor, Nancy Botox Pelosi, and enjoy the help you get.


34 posted on 12/05/2012 10:55:03 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: y6162

Meet your new doctor, Nancy Botox Pelosi, and enjoy the help you get.


35 posted on 12/05/2012 10:55:18 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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