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Posted on 12/04/2012 6:29:13 PM PST by neverdem
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Already explained this. Some cuts are OK. The cuts the libertarians want are ridiculous.
I agaree that a national security goal is essential.
Almost every Republican and libertarian claims to be conservative. Words are cheap. Even Ron Paul's bosom buddy, Alex Jones, claims to be a conservative, but here's what he thinks of real conservatives:
One of those ousted from a financial committee is from here in NC: "Little Walter" Jones. He, for one, certainly is no conservative!
Two others are David Schweikert and Justin Amash. Both are apparently Rontards. Amash, a/k/a "Mr. Facebook," is sometimes touted as the next Ron Paul.
Amash, in particular, has a reputation as a loose cannon. E.g., though pro-life, he was one of only seven Republicans who voted against banning sex-selection abortions. (Ron Paul also voted against banning sex-selection abortions.) Amash even very publicly lambasted the Republican leadership over the issue -- not exactly the best way to get preference the next time committee assignments come around.
My guess: it's probably the guys who wanted the federal gov't to default on the debt, rather than raise the debt ceiling, who're being shunted aside from the financial committees. If so, I wouldn't call that "conservative," I'd call it irresponsible.
America's economic problems are serious business. Obviously the House Republican leadership wants serious people working on them... to which I say, "Amen!"
Didn't your read the report from the Heritage Foundation which says the GOP headed by our speaker put no real solutions in getting the country's more urgent issues addressed. Whether those people are not to your tasting, the voters voted them in to get the government under control and to stop spending. The GOP just cut them off at the knees because they were Paul like (not buying it)
hell we need walter williams as speaker of the house. you don’ t have to be elected rep to be speaker.
conservatives no longer have any representation
It amazes me why people keep voting for Republicans and complain about it instead of forming a party that represents their beliefs.
You can expect total compliance to any and all ideas placed before them by the communists.
This election proved that the end of America as we knew it has come to an end. The only thing we have left is to form a third party as our last gasp of freedom. We have no other recourse because only the naive think the Republican party can be “fixed.” Those with common sense know it can’t.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. You refuse to let others do your thinking for you.
We are having a terrible time with crazy Paulbots here in Iowa--they have nearly destroyed RPI so it is easy for me to sympathize with leadership who removed them.
I know exactly what I'm talking about regarding the crazy Paulbots here in Iowa.
Start reading theiowarepublican.com. This has been going on for about 10 months now and they've nearly destroyed RPI. Until you take the time to investigate, don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about because I do.
Let me get my tin foil hat. /s
I will not condemn Boehner for this as if these folks are truly trying to cut the military while protecting Planned Parenthood funding, I say, good for Boehner.
For almost a 12 years now, I have had that feeling very strongly and always pushed it away. Now I am forced to accept that reality. I was just making some notes in my journal last night that I'm somewhat glad to be heading into my late 50's because Civil War and Revolution are really games for the young. I'll grab my Bible and sit back to watch the show. It won't be very long now. I'm comfortable, cooking popcorn and some hot chocolate. I don't have the strength to pull night ambushes and raids.
Probably George Soros. I think he’s been calling the shots ever since he and his communist-Islamist alliance orchestrated the run on the bank in Sept of 2008.
Did Huelskamp really think that the people who dictated that a known-ineligible candidate be on the ballot in Kansas...and who oversaw 100+% voting in the critical areas to get Obama elected... and who threatened the media into silence over the eligibility issue because they have a BIG CARD that makes even Roger Ailes scared (who can certainly afford to have a bodyguard...).... would let anybody stand in their way in Congress?
When you join forces with Sauron, expect to get used up and thrown away. The only way to defeat the lawless Sauron is by OPPOSING HIM. The dems may be Sauron, but the reps are Saruman, and right now the only way the country will be saved is if some little Frodo in Congress is willing to understand that the Shire will be no more if they don’t stand up right now. On the eligibility issue, which is the very crux of the lawlessness. Whatever Soros is using for his trump card to get the R’s to join forces with him rather than fight on something so critical, is what is holding this country hostage, and until we address that directly, this country can only slide into a coma and death.
Huelskamp, you tried joining forces with Saruman when you assured the world that Obama would be on the Kansas ballot no matter what. Look where it got you. Learn from your mistake, grow some balls, and let’s get on with saving this country. We need a Senator or Representative to file a lawsuit challenging Obama’s Constitutional ability to “act as President” on the basis of him being unable to qualify by Jan 20th as required by the 20th Amendment - given that he has no legally-determined birth facts, since he has no legally-valid HI birth certificate (as confirmed by HI state registrar Alvin Onaka).
Amash - just became my rep this election cycle. Walberg was redistricted.
Not surprisingly, just about everyone I speak with is in the same frame of mind.
They are in league with the democrats, not in opposition.
We've had enough of theater-caliber acting from RINOs. The ousting of conservatives this week and pre-election Tea Party distancing confirm the demise of the republican party as we once knew it is in real-time progress.
There is no democrat-lite party, contrary to Bohner and RINOs fantasies. They should just make the political leap and change parties. Colin Powell already admits to voting democrat.
Thanks for the link.
Sorry to hear you are going to watch, just think if old George Washington had decided to “watch”?
Me I’m 61, have health problems, but I’d rather die on my feet then serve on my knees.
So after they have taken everyone away and they come for you who will help you?
BTW-your attitude is what got us here in the first place.
Pretty obvious since LBJ, Left foot, Right foot, down the road to global totalitarianism.
Id rather die on my feet then serve on my knees.
Talk is cheap. 99% of folks who say this in strength will roll over and show their bellies when a fed SWAT team busts in their doors at 0300HRS and holds an H&KMP5 to the heads of their grandchildren or wife.
They'll be coming for me in the first wave of sweeps. My popcorn and chocolate illustration is more of a fantasy than fact. My history of activism as well as my affiliations puts me on several lists. The worst of them in the eyes of the oppressors would be former US Army Infantry Captain and NRA certified Firearms Instructor for the last quarter century. What happens when they show up will depend on the circumstances of the moment. But I'm sure not going to be beating my chest and screaming about dying on my feet rather than living on my knees. That's an empty rant.
Write a strongly worded letter, on the computer, and e mail it, sure to make waves and get "them" to listen, lol.
Then there is always the online petitions, a useful tool for bending behavior of pols.
Ooh ooh, join an on line political action website and treaten to withhold your vote unless the pol is pure and 110% in line with your very well balanced and thoughful political world view...
Naturally, all of this can be done while sipping chocolate and consuming large quantities of popped corn!
'course, you may get branded a traitor to the cause for not inflating your chest as you type in very manly scenarios in which you would gladly hold off the hordes of govt thugs with your arsenal of stuff which you cleverly fooled said thugs into thinking that you lost your stuff during your fishing expeditions.
One of my favorite forms of resistance is to start a 3rd, 4th and 5th party, and garner 51,000,000 votes based on principle (mine, naturally), then, THEN, I, we, can sow them wo is boss and in control. Oh yeah!
However, we don't do this thing soon, we will need to joint the walker brigade and learn to shoot off hand while sitting, in a wheel chair.
I remember reading some campaign material put out by Richard Nixon in his 1972 campaign in which he said, when targeting college students in his appeals, that he had managed to bring the defense budget under 50 percent of the total federal budget.
Defense spending isn't anywhere close to that level today. Social welfare spending and entitlements have become a steadily increasing percentage of the budget, along with payments on the national debt and the ticking time bomb of Social Security.
That is wrong.
Most of what the federal government does today either should be done by the states and cities, or should be done by private individuals and organizations, or shouldn't be done at all.
By contrast, providing for the common defense is virtually the only big-dollar item on which the federal government has the primary role under our Constitution. The federal government has other constitutionally prescribed functions, of course, but most of them do not cost anywhere close to what defense costs.
Obviously there is waste in the defense department. I live outside a major Army installation and I could tell horror stories. I think putting together a committee of angry first sergeants could generate billions of dollars in defense cuts due to waste, fraud and abuse, and creating a committee like that is a program I could get behind.
What the Democrats want is something entirely different, not fixing defense but gutting defense.
He's a relatively recent congressman from Grand Rapids, Mich., where I used to live. He's a firebrand but I'm afraid he's been setting the wrong fires.
I've been out of Michigan for more than a dozen years (though I have many ties there), but I now have a new reason to be interested. My congresswoman in Missouri, Rep. Vicky Hartzler, was appointed to one of the positions from which Amash and others was removed on the House Budget Committee. I have problems with Hartzler, but on social issues she is a rock-solid conservative and led the fight in Missouri against homosexual marriage.
I want to withhold judgment on the details of Rep. Amash because I haven't followed his career closely, but on the broad picture, I think it's fairly clear he does not represent the socially conservative voters of Michigan's Bible Belt.
He's not the first case of that, unfortunately. A congressional district as socially conservative as those found in West Michigan, if it were in South Carolina or Mississippi or Texas, would be sending firebrand right-wingers to Congress on a crusade to kill liberal programs and godless wickedness along with them.
That simply has not been the case in West Michigan despite demographics which are clearly ripe for a right-wing conservative Christian candidate, as long as his name is VanderSomething to attract Dutch voters. Conservative Christians do get elected to local offices and the state legislature in West Michigan, but for some reason that doesn't get translated into success in Congressional races.
Some of that isn't too surprising, historically — this is Jerry Ford's old district, after all.
Ford made a career out of being a moderate and successfully keeping radical conservatives under control by giving them some of what they wanted, running things by consensus rather than based on core ideological principle. I know from experience how Ford worked hard to keep the Dutch business leaders happy, knowing they'd keep their Christian Reformed and Reformed Church in America pastors under control, and thereby prevent too many problems coming out of the pews. Ford faced one serious revolt over Christian education, and he ended up co-opting the leaders of the revolt by getting them involved in mainstream Republican Party politics.
That was a really smart move on Ford's part, and it was typical of how he operated, knowing that conservatives get really angry but once the anger subsides, they generally don't have the staying power to mount a successful long-term campaign to get rid of someone.
More recently, the Dutch Reformed have actually been operating the levers of power rather than being co-opted by mainstream Republican leaders. The problem has been that the wrong Dutch people were pulling the levers, people who no longer represented the core conservative Christian commitments of their heritage.
Here are two examples.
Rep. Amash’s predecessor, Rep. Vern Ehlers, was a member of one of the most liberal congregations in the Christian Reformed Church. He was a bookish former college science professor, not a fighter for conservative causes. His predecessor, Rep. Paul Henry, was the son of noted evangelical leader Carl F.H. Henry, and a member of a powerful and (at the time) fairly conservative downtown Christian Reformed congregation. Personally I liked Rep. Henry and didn't have a problem with him, but he was regarded as simply “too nice” by a lot of hard-core conservatives.
Pay attention, guys. This is a case study in how conservatives get co-opted by mainstream Republican elements. My guess is that if the national GOP gets sick and tired of Amash, they'll find a reasonably compliant pro-life conservative Christian candidate to run in the primary against Amash. The core demographics of his district do not support Amash’s positions and that makes him vulnerable.
Christie at the beach, do you think defaulting on the debt is a real solution?
IMO, the House should have passed a “metered” debt limit increase, which would have gradually increased the debt limit, month by month, by large enough to prevent default, but small enough to keep the squeeze on for fiscal responsibility. But to oppose ANY debt limit increase at all is completely irresponsible.
Well sir, let me just say, I and you will be on the same side of the barricade, hopefully you will remember enough to train others.
I was not pounding my chest.
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As an NRA certified Firearms Instructor these last 25 years, I have trained many MANY others. A lot of them have come back to me after their basic concealed firearms permit classes, to request other sorts of training that are of a more ... specialized nature shall we say...
No hard feelings....
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No hard feelings...