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HOUSE GOP LEADERS PURGED CONSERVATIVES USING SECRET CRITERIA LIST
Big Government ^ | 4 Dec 2012 | MATTHEW BOYLE

Posted on 12/04/2012 6:29:13 PM PST by neverdem

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To: tennmountainman

I’m wonder what scandal they have on him?

http://www.ibtimes.com/pelosi-boehner-accused-soft-corruption-60-minutes-report-369628


51 posted on 12/04/2012 7:20:44 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: DManA

Democrats have souls, they are deceived and they are headed fir hell but at least they have a soul. These Boehner Republicans are just zombies,


52 posted on 12/04/2012 7:20:53 PM PST by DManA
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I realize there are a number of Freepers here who have issues with Paul and believe some of the issues he advocates are dangerous for the peasants. But keep in mind that this purge was excluded to committees that shape the budget. When you consider Paul’s ideas on finance it should provide a fairly good clue what Boehner has in mind here.


53 posted on 12/04/2012 7:20:53 PM PST by Roland
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Don’t condescend to me. If you weren’t such a fool you would understand.


54 posted on 12/04/2012 7:23:02 PM PST by DManA
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To: neverdem

Bonehead forgets what happened to Tom Daschle.
Republicans thought they had Conservative votes too, ignored us and lost to Obama. How quick the GOPe forget history.


55 posted on 12/04/2012 7:24:03 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Cubs Fan

“conservatives no longer have any representation”

I don’t know if they have the numbers, but if the “true conservative” members of the House provide the GOP with the majority, they need to play hardball with Boner and tell him if he doesn’t restore the assignments, they will refrain from any voting until such time as Boner capitulates.


56 posted on 12/04/2012 7:25:18 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Cubs Fan

These people are Gullible Gusses. The Tea Party is targeted for ridicule; conservatives are targeted for ridicule, Alinsky style. True to form, the RINO’s fall all over themselves agreeing with Obama and Reid. - It’s a pity Congress seems to be just a Good Ol’ Boys’ & Girls’ Club; spending money like pouring it out of a boot.


57 posted on 12/04/2012 7:27:15 PM PST by Twinkie (The WICKED walk on every side when EVIL men are exalted. Psalm 12:8)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Stop blaming Ron Paul for Boehner’s purge. Attacking him and his supporters is self-defeating.


58 posted on 12/04/2012 7:28:12 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

He’s been in DC 20 years. Bonehead is too dumb to be squeaky clean.
I don’t know what’s out there. However, I am sure he has some bones
In his closet.


59 posted on 12/04/2012 7:28:21 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Roland

I am only asking for patience before jumping to conclusions and there is another point of view.


60 posted on 12/04/2012 7:35:55 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: stockpirate
As I have been saying for the last 4 years, the republican leadership in BOTH houses and the RNC and RNCC are ALL socialists, New World Order big government socialists.

They are in league with the democrats, not in opposition. It continues to amaze me that so many still they they are going weak kneed or are spineless, the truth is they have betrayed conservatives all along in order to do the devils work, the One World Government, behold the beast.

Further evidenced by "Dubya" Bush popping out of hiding to speak up for immigration, of all things! His happy little North American Union is part of the NWO.

61 posted on 12/04/2012 7:39:34 PM PST by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: Timber Rattler
Who's blaming Ron Paul? Here in Iowa, his supporters are crazier than Ron Paul. Did you read the article? Those that were removed were Ron Paul supporters. Keep an open mind, that's all I'm asking.

Even I do not have a firm opinion if they did the right thing or wrong thing but I'm willing to wait to come to a conclusion.

I know Republican leaders have been criticized in the past for lacking discipline. Well, this may be an instance where discipline was meted. I have no idea what is right and what is wrong here--not yet.

62 posted on 12/04/2012 7:39:49 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: ilovesarah2012

Less than 20 Conservatives can vote in January to make Pelosi Speaker ilo Boner. (assuming that the ‘rats wouldn’t arrange for some ‘rats to vote FOR Boner.)


63 posted on 12/04/2012 7:40:35 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: DManA

Maybe if you lived in Iowa, you would understand.


64 posted on 12/04/2012 7:41:38 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I try to be patient but considering the GOP’s track record lately don't expect anything good to come out of this.
65 posted on 12/04/2012 7:43:55 PM PST by Roland
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Hey, grandma, go knit some socks. You have no idea what you are talking about.


66 posted on 12/04/2012 7:44:23 PM PST by DManA
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Maybe if you lived on planet Earth....


67 posted on 12/04/2012 7:51:00 PM PST by DManA
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To: neverdem

Simple, vote the leadership out in Jan.


68 posted on 12/04/2012 7:53:34 PM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: DManA

Living in this country is getting to be a b!tch.

Republican voters cannot trust the politicians we elect.

We need to dump them all and start over. No wonder they have a 13% approval rate.


69 posted on 12/04/2012 7:53:42 PM PST by Venturer
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To: neverdem

I suspect this is why Huelskamp was booted from the budget committee:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/294078/will-representative-tim-huelskamp-kill-gop-entitlement-reform-efforts-avik-roy#


70 posted on 12/04/2012 7:55:08 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: arasina

Funny how Bush II pops up now. He and his brother and nephew are the last thing America needs. The GOP-e has done enough damage. I do think it is going to get a lot worse for this country. Bonehead’s purge is just the latest indignity.


71 posted on 12/04/2012 7:56:24 PM PST by Buddy Sorrell ("I'm dead sober, Andy, but I expect I'll get over it." - Otis Campbell)
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To: Timber Rattler

We’ve got a two-year window to file the divorce papers and make a serious move. We’ve got 2 years after that to build a majority.

Needs to start now.

Bedfellows like the arch-libertarians, the GO-Proud perverts and the peace-pipe moderates will only confuse the issues.

Let the chips fall where they may... better to make a stand. We ain’t gettin’ nowhere quick playing ball with the gop.


72 posted on 12/04/2012 7:57:09 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: Roland
When you consider Paul’s ideas on finance

Which include his idea about cutting the defense budget?

Uh huh.

73 posted on 12/04/2012 8:03:27 PM PST by what's up
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
These Paulbots have been making our lives miserable

I understand 2 of these 4 endoresed Ron Paul, one received a lot of libertarian money, and the 4th would not vote against Planned Parenthood.

This stinks.

74 posted on 12/04/2012 8:06:05 PM PST by what's up
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To: neverdem

I wonder if breitbart is going to apply for a drone permit to follow the media?


75 posted on 12/04/2012 8:06:25 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: La Lydia
Some of these guys went against Ryan.

These Paul-ites are up to something nasty.

76 posted on 12/04/2012 8:09:26 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

That would be correct. The defense budget is not off limits.


77 posted on 12/04/2012 8:11:47 PM PST by Roland
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To: Roland
The defense budget is already being cut 100's of millions.

Ron Paul lives in la-la land.

78 posted on 12/04/2012 8:14:58 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

The defense budget has a number of areas that could be trimmed. Especially in the area of foreign entanglements. By the way I am active duty and have been for the past ten years.


79 posted on 12/04/2012 8:18:16 PM PST by Roland
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To: oldbrowser

(I took that to mean that the leaders were preparing to return the president’s smash mouth style in kind)

Really? Are you sure it wasn’t wishful thinking based on no evidence whatsoever? I determine where politicians stand by their ACTIONS, not their words, or my own wishful thinking. Boehner has never been tough rhetorically on the President, preferring Romney’s way of doing things rather than Gingrich. Seeing as to how the media was not able to demonize Boehner, it might actually have worked, so I don’t fault him for that. I do however fault him for answering Obama’s non-offer offer with a starting bid of $800 Billion in new taxes! WTF? He’s already lost and he hasn’t even started negotiating! ...or maybe taking out tax revenue from the private sector is not that anathema to him. You do the math, but I recommend that you do look at his actions too.

About this whole business of why the 4 conservatives/libertarians were purged. The excuses offered on FR sound like the excuses of a battered wife. Think about it.


80 posted on 12/04/2012 8:20:59 PM PST by winner3000
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To: neverdem; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; Travis McGee; ..

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

81 posted on 12/04/2012 8:21:24 PM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: Roland
This is no reason to rebel now when defense is already being cut by 100's of millions.

Ron Paul has it wrong.

82 posted on 12/04/2012 8:22:08 PM PST by what's up
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To: neverdem

RINO File.


83 posted on 12/04/2012 8:35:46 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: mombonn

Schweikert?


84 posted on 12/04/2012 8:48:29 PM PST by Hildy (hen the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: what's up
Since I’m not really a Paulbot anyway I won’t put much effort into defending him. Besides I’ve noticed that putting your faith in politicians generally leads to disappointment.
There are a lot of people around here who won’t agree on this but lately I have come to the opinion that the biggest threat to this country is not from a socialist president (even though I believe he is deplorable) or the liberal congress; but from the economic consequences of unsustainable debt. The GOP would be a good party if they actually voted their campaign platform. Unfortunately they seldom do. When it comes to spending both parties are on the same side one is just getting us there quicker. This will destroy the country much quicker than the creeping socialism.
The Republicans will not correct this. Even if they had the majority the fact is that the voters have become too dependent on the money and the parties both realize that it is political suicide to rock the boat this much. I believe this is what this thread is about.
Since finance is my top priority it would make sense that I am agreeable with Paul. If we are ever able to correct this fiscal nightmare we are in (personally I’m doubtful) it will require cuts everywhere, including defense.
85 posted on 12/04/2012 8:50:14 PM PST by Roland
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To: SharpRightTurn

We need someone like Louie Gohmert.

Second


86 posted on 12/04/2012 8:50:18 PM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: Roland
it will require cuts everywhere, including defense.

As I've said a couple of times already defense IS being cut.

And it's not a paltry sum...it's 100's of BILLIONS of dollars.

Ron Paul is out to lunch.

87 posted on 12/04/2012 8:53:30 PM PST by what's up
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To: neverdem

Thanks for posting, neverdem. HOORAY Matthew Boyle and Kansas Republican Rep. Tim Huelskamp!

Totalitarian tactics used against representatives of a legitimate constituency in the same party. Heads should roll. Resignations should occur.


88 posted on 12/04/2012 8:54:24 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Roland
When it comes to spending both parties are on the same side

I don't believe this.

One wants the system to collapse. The other does not but needs the majority of the people behind them to rectify the situation.

89 posted on 12/04/2012 8:56:15 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

I’m aware of the cuts I see the effects of this every day.

What is more important? A better funded military for the time being until we become insolvent? Business cannot continue as usual.


90 posted on 12/04/2012 9:00:02 PM PST by Roland
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To: Roland
A better funded military for the time being

Of course. Without it you would become insolvent a lot faster. National Defense is the FIRST necessity for a strong economy.

91 posted on 12/04/2012 9:03:29 PM PST by what's up
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To: Cubs Fan

“conservatives no longer have any representation”

Well stated.

But for us they would not hold majority status, yet they mock conservatism openly. If I didn’t know any better, I would think they are trying to ensure a third party formation.


92 posted on 12/04/2012 9:05:22 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: what's up
I'm starting to get the impression you work for a defense contractor. So you believe that government spending is necessary for a strong economy. Tell me, what is your opinion on keynesian economics?
93 posted on 12/04/2012 9:10:16 PM PST by Roland
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To: winner3000
I determine where politicians stand by their ACTIONS, not their words, or my own wishful thinking.

Undoubtedly there is some wishful thinking on my part. However The republican caucus has been all over the map with people freelancing or pulling in different directions.

The democrat are much better at staying on message and on key issues they march in lock step.

We are at a critical time. Some of the issues such as the national debt, socialized medicine, and changes in the world order are being determined for years to come.
Newt ruled the house with an iron fist. I am hopeful that Boehner is preparing to fight and for that he will needed a cohesive team behind him.

94 posted on 12/04/2012 9:11:54 PM PST by oldbrowser (Put Obama in check, now.)
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To: Roland
No, I'm not in defense. And I haven't voiced any objection to the major cuts that have been made. But now it's another agency's turn.

Any conservative will tell you a strong defense is necessary to protect the country and confidence in its economy.

A strong defense is a classic conservative position. This isn't Keynesian. Don't you know this?

95 posted on 12/04/2012 9:16:44 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

Of course. Without it you would become insolvent a lot faster. National Defense is the FIRST necessity for a strong economy.

Wrong again Old Man. Without a strong economy, there is no defense,
no Social Security, no nothing. I have been tracking your comments
about the conservatives who you call Paul-ties, being removed from
committees because they were open to cuts in defense.

For someone so old, you sure have a short memory.
Two years ago, when Bonehead did his kabuki dance over raising the
Debt ceiling, the Grand Bargain Bonehead and the GOP VOTED for
Was to CUT defense spending. So you are a hypocrite in defending
the removal of these conservatives, yet conveniently forget what the
GOP actually voted for, as a condition to raising the Debt Limit.
That Grand Bargain that passed the GOP House MAJORITY passed two years
ago had automatic defense cuts as part of the deal.


96 posted on 12/04/2012 9:24:04 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman
No, despite your thinking you know me, I have not forgotten. I have no problem with cuts being made to all agencies...INCLUDING Defense.

However, the Paul-ites want much deeper cuts. They weren't even in favor of going in to topple Hussein.

Once you have a country (economy) you MUST have a strong defense to protect it. Without it, your economy topples.

97 posted on 12/04/2012 9:38:42 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
I agree that it is definitely another agency's turn to take the next hit. And there are plenty of useless programs ripe for cuts. I also believe defense is necessary. But in the long term I don't believe that a country can afford to spend 1/3 of it's revenue on defense.

I think a simple explanation of keynesianism is using easy money to spur the economy. Whether it's through artificially low interest or printing currency you don't have doesn't much matter. Regardless of how you define it this is not the purpose of the military.

Furthermore I have very strong feelings about those who would take advantage of patriotic young men by sending them to some third world shit hole to sacrifice themselves for undeserving animals because it is good for the economy and/or the defense contractor.

98 posted on 12/04/2012 9:43:16 PM PST by Roland
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To: null and void

ruh oh....


99 posted on 12/04/2012 9:56:25 PM PST by Nifster
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To: what's up

So why do name call and defend the removal of these conservatives
when it was Bonehead and the GOP who actually voted for automatic
spending cuts in the Grand Bargain the GOP agreed to, as a condition
to raise the debt limit two years ago?
I agree that a strong defense is a must. But you seem more inclined
to give Bonehead a pass, when he actually agreed to automatic spending
cuts in that debt ceiling Grand Bargain two years ago, than two conservatives, who just said they were open to the possibility.
So, what is worse. Bonehead leading a charge to work a Grand Bargain
that had automatic defense spending cuts that passed and will soon be law,
or two conservatives that were supported by the Tea Party that just said
they were open to cuts including defense. One is actual law. Two are
just opinions.


100 posted on 12/04/2012 9:58:51 PM PST by tennmountainman
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