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Get The Truth About Lead Ammunition & The Misguided Campaign To Ban It
Ammoland ^ | 4 December, 2012 | Hunt for Truth

Posted on 12/04/2012 7:36:41 PM PST by marktwain

California --(Ammoland.com)- To assist policymakers and to educate the public, hunting and recreational shooting organizations have launched a website to make the facts and science of the lead ammunition debate available.

Policymakers and hunters are urged to register at the Hunt for Truth website and to subscribe to the Hunt for Truth email list to receive e-bulletins with the latest breaking news and information on the lead ammunition issue. www.huntfortruth.org

Self-proclaimed environmental organizations are trying to prohibit the use of traditional ammunition consisting of lead core components in hunting and recreational shooting. They claim that some scavenging animals, like the California Condor, ingest and are poisoned by small pieces of lead contained in the carcasses of game and gut piles left in the field by hunters.

But there is substantial evidence that the groups attacking the use of lead ammunition have employed faulty science, used questionable scientific methodologies, and selectively cherry picked data to support their campaign against traditional ammunition. In fact, some researchers – who have published studies funded with taxpayer dollars that have anti-lead pre-conceived conclusions – are actually thwarting attempts by third parties to independently review their work. They refuse to make the original data on which their studies were based available.

The truth is that lead ammunition is an unlikely cause of the alleged poisoning, because the metallic lead used in bullets and shot is relatively insoluble in the digestive tract of birds of prey and scavengers. Scientific studies have confirmed that it is very difficult to poison some birds with lead, even by repeatedly feeding them lead shot mixed with food over time.

On the other hand, lead compounds found in legacy paint, insecticides, leaded gasoline and mine tailings are quite soluble in the digestive tract and are responsible for many of the highly publicized lead poisonings attributed to lead ammunition. These lead compounds are common in the environment, and should be investigated first in cases of lead poisoning of wildlife. The anti-lead researchers, however, typically ignore “alternative sources” of lead in the environmental because the existence of such sources undermines the anti-lead ammunition and anti-hunting agenda.

Advocates of lead ammunition bans also routinely ignore the fact that alternative metals proposed for use in ammunition can cause serious environmental consequences of their own. Alternative ammunition containing bismuth, tungsten or copper coated steel all present various environmental concerns. Bismuth leaches into the soil and groundwater and interferes with soil bacteria. Tungsten, which is transformed to a soluble form by oxygen, accumulates in the spleen of wildlife and can cause immune system disorders. Even copper is toxic under certain circumstances, and can do far more environmental damage than lead. Steel shot does not perform as well as lead on game, leading to higher numbers of crippled game that escapes and is not recovered. Traditional ammunition containing lead is still the best, and safest, alternative.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ammunition; banglist; ca; lead
If a researcher will not release his data, he is not doing science.
1 posted on 12/04/2012 7:36:51 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Nothin' works better than lead.


2 posted on 12/04/2012 7:55:35 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of TheMasses Could Be Farts)
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To: Mark_Twains

I’m thinking depleted uranium would be a good substitute.

(Would you mind loading these mags for me?)


3 posted on 12/04/2012 7:57:53 PM PST by moovova
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To: moovova
I’m thinking depleted uranium would be a good substitute.

Too hard. Gold would be much better.

4 posted on 12/04/2012 8:22:32 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

A list of the alternatives, set to music. (Gilbert and Sullivan, IIRC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b2Uy1TDAl4


5 posted on 12/04/2012 8:27:34 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: marktwain

“Too hard. Gold would be much better.”

Yeah, but the Loan Arranger wants you to use silver, lol.


6 posted on 12/04/2012 8:29:05 PM PST by RebelTex (Soli Deo Gloria, "To God alone the glory")
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To: marktwain

I don’t know much about this, so correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t lead easily manipulated by relative novices? If lead were to slowly disappear, wouldn’t this hamper the private making of ammo at the citizen level? Is this part of the issue....taking the manufacture of ammo out of the hands of “amateurs”?


7 posted on 12/04/2012 8:56:08 PM PST by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: marktwain
But there is substantial evidence that the groups attacking the use of lead ammunition have employed faulty science, used questionable scientific methodologies, and selectively cherry picked data to support their campaign against traditional ammunition. In fact, some researchers – who have published studies funded with taxpayer dollars that have anti-lead pre-conceived conclusions – are actually thwarting attempts by third parties to independently review their work. They refuse to make the original data on which their studies were based available.

Why do I have that nagging feeling that I've heard all that before in a similar context...
Let me think.
It's on the tip of my tongue; on the penumbra of my memory.
Where did I hear all those really stupid arguments, which violated all the foundations of science, as well as the official Federal Rules of Evidence?

It will come to me eventually.

Wait.
I got it!
Global warming! That's it.
East Anglia rings a bell.

How did that turn out?
Let me think...

8 posted on 12/04/2012 8:58:03 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: marktwain
Get The Truth About Lead Ammunition & The Misguided Campaign To Ban It

This campaign, while definitely evil and treasonous, is hardly "misguided." These communist thugs know exactly what they are doing and why. We are obstructing their way to power. Therefore, they want us dead, just like the millions of kulaks and Chinese who resisted communists before us. Why is that so hard to accept?

9 posted on 12/04/2012 9:19:30 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: marktwain

I’ve always stated that the goal of the government is to disarm the citizens so that they can be taken over.

To this end they are thwarted by the Second Amendment that states the right to keep and bear arms. However, it pertains to arms...not ammo. Ammo is not cited within the amendment.

The Democrat Communists will now turn their sights on controlling ammunition to the point that you will not be able to buy it without a “prescription” issued by your local Communist block leader.

It’s coming folks...as sure as the sun rises in the morning.


10 posted on 12/05/2012 1:29:48 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: marktwain

Norway banned lead buck and birdshot in 2005.


11 posted on 12/05/2012 3:35:59 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: bjorn14

What do they use in its stead?


12 posted on 12/05/2012 3:58:44 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Superciliousness is the essence of Obama)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
They sell both steel and tungsten shot. Both play hell with the barrels of shotguns, and are very expensive.

I have enjoyed playing with lead all my life. Used to dig it out of the bank behind the police practice firing range. (They practiced with naked lead wad-cutter bullets).

I melted the slugs down to make fishing wights (sinkers). Also made a shot(shot putt) by pouring molten lead into a metal globe coin bank.

Some people warned me about the lead hazard, which warning I did ignore, but I did avoid the temptation of eating lead paint chips.

However, I could not resist my attraction to liquid mercury. There was a girl in my neighborhood that used hearing aids. I discovered that she used mercury batteries, and would give me her used ones.

I would squeeze (press) the mercury out of them, and I built up a sizable store. I found lots of applications for it, and enjoyed entertaining my classmates at school with it.

13 posted on 12/08/2012 12:16:57 AM PST by tdscpa
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