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A bishop behind bars
The Daily ^ | 11-3-12 | M.L. Nestel and Jebediah Reed

Posted on 12/05/2012 7:24:11 AM PST by WackySam

YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio — Sam Mullet, the renegade Amish bishop convicted on federal hate crime charges for his role in a series of beard-cutting attacks last year, has earned an unlikely nickname in prison.

Among his fellow inmates at Northern Ohio Correctional Center, the towering 67-year-old with wire-rimmed glasses, pudding-bowl haircut and retro facial hair is known simply as “O.G.”

While the term — street shorthand for “original gangster” — was unfamiliar to Mullet, he could sense that it was a compliment bestowed from across cultural lines.

“They’re calling me O.G.,” he said, smiling. “I don’t know what it means, but I guess it means something good.”

Unexpected honorific aside, he didn’t pretend to be comfortable in his new home. “I’m a stranger here. Plus Amish to boot,” he told The Daily last month in the first in-depth interview he has ever given. “How would you feel coming to Amish country and being locked up? You see guys in here with all kinds of dress and all kinds of hairstyles, but I’m the one that’s weird and sticking out.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: amish; amishfolk; napl
Mullet faces the possibility of life in prison when he’s sentenced on Feb. 8. The 15 co-defendants, including four of his children, all face potential life sentences as well. The prosecution, citing federal sentencing guidelines, has recommended a minimum of 17½ years for everyone involved in the beard-cutting conspiracy.
1 posted on 12/05/2012 7:24:13 AM PST by WackySam
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To: WackySam

Perhaps from an over-literal application of laws about mayhem? Clipping people’s beards, hair, etc. without permission is wrong and ought to make him civilly liable for a lot, but it’s not the kind of wrong that, say, cutting somebody’s finger off would be.


2 posted on 12/05/2012 7:29:33 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Perhaps from an over-literal application of laws about mayhem?

Hate Crime.
3 posted on 12/05/2012 7:32:09 AM PST by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: Slings and Arrows; WackySam

Hiya, Slings!

IIRC you didn’t ping the list when news of the great Amish fracas broke, so here’s a follow-up to the tale if’n yer inner-ested.


4 posted on 12/05/2012 7:34:45 AM PST by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

how about the equivalent of sharia law for the Amish.

had a muzzy cut a beard for whatever reason he would have been acquitted.


5 posted on 12/05/2012 7:35:43 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: WackySam

Hate crime of doing “what” though. Clearly hate tomato throwings should not be counted as serious as hate hair cuttings, which in turn should not be counted as serious as hate stabbings, etc. This is “hate criminalization” run amok.


6 posted on 12/05/2012 7:36:03 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: WackySam; All

And I always wonder what happened to those pesky love crimes.


7 posted on 12/05/2012 7:37:31 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Vaquero

Something’s seriously outta kilter with this. No wonder the “gangster” is getting a friendly, even kidding reception in jail. Bank robbers and rapists can see this is B.S.


8 posted on 12/05/2012 7:40:20 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Hate crime of doing “what” though

Because their crimes were "motivated by religious disputes".
9 posted on 12/05/2012 7:46:26 AM PST by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: WackySam

Ridiculous abuse of prosecutorial powers. Besides, isn’t there something funny about a guy named Mullet who gives people involuntary haircuts?


10 posted on 12/05/2012 7:46:26 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

Idiotic law that lent itself to something of this kind. So, maybe he has taken his faith to such a nutty slant that he belongs in a rubber room weaving baskets lest he hurt an innocent person. By all means do that, but don’t trump up a crime to such an extent that even bank robbers can see the baloney in it.


11 posted on 12/05/2012 7:50:07 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: WackySam

Yeah, Ohio does have a hate crime law. There was a case where a grown man was tossed into jail for 30 days for imitating and mocking a young girl with cerebral palsy’s walk. I admit the guy is a jerk and needs a dang good talking to, but throw him in jail, that’s beyond the pale.


12 posted on 12/05/2012 7:51:36 AM PST by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: Titan Magroyne; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ..
Sounds like a barnyard blitz!


13 posted on 12/05/2012 7:52:34 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Titan Magroyne; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ..
Sounds like a barnyard blitz!


14 posted on 12/05/2012 7:53:30 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: WackySam

And I suppose Rev. Beard was the one who ran around cutting mullets?


15 posted on 12/05/2012 7:53:39 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: WackySam

Almost every aspect of government and justice in America has been perverted by left wingers.

This 66 year old Amish guy is already sitting in prison for “beard-cutting attacks” in 2011 (GASP and OMG! The horror of it!).

The prosecution recommends a minimum of 17½ years for him and his 15 co-defendants, and there is even talk about possible life sentences.

But muslim terrorist, Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who killed 13 people and wounded 29 others more than 3 years ago at Ft. Hood has yet to come to trial. And there is great debate about his right to keep a beard in violation of Army regulations.


16 posted on 12/05/2012 7:54:22 AM PST by Iron Munro (Big Moo & Bronco 'Bama = Robbing From The Hood and Boy Blunder)
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To: Nowhere Man

What’s more asinine, the man who mocked the disabled child or the law that declared it a serious enough crime for that.


17 posted on 12/05/2012 7:56:34 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Iron Munro

So give the Amish guy a pair of scissors and put him in the same jail as Hasan. Problem solved.


18 posted on 12/05/2012 7:58:08 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: WackySam
Mullet faces the possibility of life in prison when he’s sentenced on Feb. 8. The 15 co-defendants, including four of his children, all face potential life sentences as well. The prosecution, citing federal sentencing guidelines, has recommended a minimum of 17½ years for everyone involved in the beard-cutting conspiracy.

They're wasting time and money on THIS when there's illegals roaming this country at will?

Beam me up, Scotty. There's no intelligent life down here.

19 posted on 12/05/2012 7:58:52 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
This is “hate criminalization” run amok.

Did you just use the word "amok", without checking whether it had racial connotations? That sounds like Hate Speech, which is one step worse than Hate Murder on the PC scale - approaching Hate Disrespect to Barack Obama.

20 posted on 12/05/2012 8:00:43 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What’s more asinine, the man who mocked the disabled child or the law that declared it a serious enough crime for that.

Exactly. As bad as it was, being a jerk isn't against the law nor should it be. I mean, someone would say to him, "what in the Hell is wrong with you?" and move on. It seems like they want to make every little thing a crime. Scotty, beam me up!
21 posted on 12/05/2012 8:02:59 AM PST by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: Iron Munro
"But muslim terrorist, Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who killed 13 people and wounded 29 others more than 3 years ago at Ft. Hood has yet to come to trial. And there is great debate about his right to keep a beard in violation of Army regulations."

You forgot to mention that Hassan has been drawing the Army's O-4 Major's pay this whole time while flaunting Army regs...

22 posted on 12/05/2012 8:04:38 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: metmom
Beam me up, Scotty. There's no intelligent life down here.

Hey, that's my line too! Seriously, I said the same thing in my last reply before I saw your. Looks like Scotty is going to be busy. B-)
23 posted on 12/05/2012 8:05:00 AM PST by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: dangus

The first thing I got upon arrival at Ft. Leonard, MO as a draftee long ago was an involuntary haircut.


24 posted on 12/05/2012 8:09:01 AM PST by shove_it (the 0bama regime are the people Huxley, Orwell and Rand warned us about)
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To: shove_it

Ft. Leonard Wood


25 posted on 12/05/2012 8:09:57 AM PST by shove_it (the 0bama regime are the people Huxley, Orwell and Rand warned us about)
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To: Joe 6-pack
You forgot to mention that Hassan has been drawing the Army's O-4 Major's pay this whole time while flaunting Army regs...


26 posted on 12/05/2012 8:21:30 AM PST by Iron Munro (Big Moo & Bronco 'Bama = Robbing From The Hood and Boy Blunder)
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To: Iron Munro
According to the 2012 pay chart, Hassan has been receiving a base pay this year of between $4289 and $5678 per month (depending on his years of service).
27 posted on 12/05/2012 8:31:27 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Nowhere Man

I didn’t even read the responses.

I guess GMTA


28 posted on 12/05/2012 8:47:12 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: WackySam

“Instead, Mullet made a much stranger offer to prosecutors.

“Sam was willing to cut his beard,” Bryan said. “He’d expressed that several times that he’d be willing to do that even though he didn’t do anything.”

Prosecutors dismissed the offer.

“I was told, ‘We’re not just going to let them apologize and cut their beards and move on,’” Bryan said.”

So, justice may be an eye for an eye, but apparently it is NOT a beard for a beard.


29 posted on 12/05/2012 9:14:50 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: WackySam

“From memory, he ticked off a list of examples of the kind of thing that alarmed him.”

...

He saw the traditional Amish dress code being abused and perverted from all quarters.

“Women were going out on the road on rollerblades or in their nightgowns,” he said... And the kids fluffed up their hats.””


Nooooo!!!!! Not the fluffy hats! That’s how it always starts, I tell you!


30 posted on 12/05/2012 9:18:41 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Nowhere Man; HiTech RedNeck
If it makes any difference, the mocking incident apparently wasn't isolated. Allegedly, the nine-year-old boy and his father (who were next-door neighbors of the ten-year-old girl with cerebral palsy) had been mocking and bullying the girl since 2011.

The girl's family had filed a complaint with the police but no action had been taken. Her father may have taken matters into his own hands, because the neighbors had also filed a complaint.

The girl's grandmother took the video because the boy's father had been mocking the girl at the bus stop. It wasn't a situation where she was lucky and caught the only time he did it.

She posted it to YouTube and public reaction caused the police to act on the family's complaint against the boy's father.

I have no idea what other actions by the boy's father were detailed in the complaint.

31 posted on 12/05/2012 9:30:58 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

This sounds more up the alley of stalking. Which could also easily result in worse than 30 days in jail, WITHOUT the “hate crime” fillip.

The point seems to be that this “hate crime” business is superfluous at best, egregious at worst.


32 posted on 12/05/2012 11:16:54 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Boogieman

They can’t get a tractor from the world, but they can get a plow from the world... go figure


33 posted on 12/05/2012 11:19:34 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Pollster1

Amok is a tropical disturbance of the mind.

We could say gone berserk, but that has Scandinavian connotations (it means “bear shirt” which is what the old Norse warriors donned before they raged fiercely into battle).


34 posted on 12/05/2012 11:23:52 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"hate crime"

The Ohio man who mocked the girl with cerebral palsy was found guilty of aggravated menacing and disorderly conduct, but not a 'hate crime.'

In the case of the Amish . . . as a part of their religion, Amish men don't cut their beards after marriage. More than six years ago, Amish bishop Sam Mullet, Sr., had placed a shunning order on members of his community who left because they objected to his behavior. He was accused of forcing men to live in chicken coops, and coercing women to have sex with him to learn to be better wives, among other things.

A group of over 300 other Amish bishops overturned Mullet's shunning order.

Mullet, Sr. and a group of fifteen of his followers stalked some of the bishops who had been instrumental in overturning his shunning order, ambushing them and cutting off their beards and hair.

It was prosecuted as a hate crime on the grounds that the beard-cuttings were due to the religious significance of the beards in the Amish faith.

35 posted on 12/05/2012 12:04:18 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster; HiTech RedNeck

Agreed, sounds more like a case of harrassment or as Hi Tech said, stalking. I don’t see a need for a hate crime law here, we have enough laws on the books for this.


36 posted on 12/05/2012 12:14:20 PM PST by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: Scoutmaster

OK, I stand corrected.


37 posted on 12/05/2012 12:15:31 PM PST by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: Scoutmaster

“Hate crime” is so generic, and if it’s to be a crime then why care about whether Bishop Mullet was motivated by the wish to humiliate other Amish or because he feared cooties? The only thing that ought to matter, Scout, is that he did it on purpose. There’s a separate accusation of harassment to describe the meaning aspect of the crime, if there is one. No wonder bank robbers are viewing him as a relatively benign figure.


38 posted on 12/05/2012 12:42:53 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Slings and Arrows; Salamander; JoeProBono; Semper Mark; humblegunner; Eaker; TheOldLady
Brotha be gettin' ~Dowwn~!
39 posted on 12/05/2012 1:00:55 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I'm torn on this one.

I object on the whole to the concept of hate crimes.

In his case, the victim likely suffered more than an average person whose beard may have been cut.

But I see your point.

40 posted on 12/05/2012 1:20:35 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster; HiTech RedNeck
Man, I got into this debate on another board about this and I do stand corrected on the disabled girl case. Still, when I stated my opposition to "hate crime laws," one lib branded me as a Nazi and me calling him a cripple because I'm against it. It's as bad as The Race Card. I learned, one thing, there is no reasoning with the left. They understand only two things, force and the threat of force. Reagan understood that.

I did add in my reply, if you want to see true Nazis, just try Obamacare in a few years an the death panels. My grandfather fought the Nazis from Omaha Beach to Buchenwald. I'm part Russian Jew. Well, I'll just go on, he violated "Godwins Law."

It's like trying to reason with a shark, you reach out and get a bloody stump in return and the shark's happy.

I hope one day, they all have an epiphany, a "come to Jesus moment" if you will but I'll leave it up to Him for that, sometimes I think we just need to dig in and see what happens.

No one should go through having their beard cut or being harrassed like that poor girl, but we must use existing laws and not succumb to emotion over reason to trump over the Constitution.
41 posted on 12/05/2012 1:40:49 PM PST by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: shibumi

Weird Al: The ORIGINAL O.G. Amish!


42 posted on 12/05/2012 1:53:25 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Scoutmaster

Basically, it’s harassment getting lumped in with whatever the other crime is. Just call it harassment and it’ll be treated more fairly. There is no sense in “throwing away the key” for this.


43 posted on 12/05/2012 3:04:49 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: shibumi

44 posted on 12/05/2012 5:07:18 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono; Slings and Arrows; Salamander


45 posted on 12/05/2012 6:51:21 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi

Word.


46 posted on 12/05/2012 7:44:01 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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