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The rich will pay more taxes, Boehner says
KITV-TV via MSNBC ^ | 12/5/2012 | KITV-TV

Posted on 12/05/2012 9:32:33 AM PST by Qbert

Taxes on the wealthy are going up, House Speaker John Boehner conceded on Wednesday in challenging President Barack Obama to sit down with him to hammer out a deal for avoiding the fiscal cliff.

The statement to reporters reflected how negotiations on reducing the nation's chronic federal deficits and debt have evolved since Obama's re-election last month.

Republicans once opposed to any new revenue in their quest to shrink government now realize Obama's victory and public support for the president's campaign theme of higher taxes on the wealthy leave them with little negotiating leverage.

Less than four weeks from the automatic tax increases and spending cuts of the fiscal cliff, GOP leaders face a choice: Agree to Obama's demand to hold down tax rates on most Americans while allowing higher rates on the wealthiest 2 percent, or be blamed for everyone's taxes going up in 2013.

The major unresolved question of negotiations involving the White House and congressional leaders is whether eliminating tax deductions and loopholes -- as proposed by House Republicans -- can raise enough revenue without hitting middle class Americans too hard.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boehner; establishment; gope; rinos; stupidparty; taxhikes; traitors
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Adios, GOP...
1 posted on 12/05/2012 9:32:44 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

Boehner’s really coming out of the closet, isn’t he.


3 posted on 12/05/2012 9:33:33 AM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

What a joke.
The joke’s on us...


4 posted on 12/05/2012 9:35:04 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: skeeter

Folded like a cheap suit. Empty too. as expected.


5 posted on 12/05/2012 9:36:18 AM PST by Gasshog
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To: Qbert

Boehner and McConnell have been in cahoots all along.


6 posted on 12/05/2012 9:37:17 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: Qbert

Boehner tou spineless little whimp, just adjourn the House and tell the Media you sent a Budget to Harry Reid already. Force the Senate to act accordingly.


7 posted on 12/05/2012 9:38:18 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Qbert

No, the major unresolved questions has nothing to do with taxes. It involves spending cuts!!


8 posted on 12/05/2012 9:38:31 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Qbert

Ed Morrissey at Hotair had this item, which indicates a few Republicans are ready to to the only honroable thing: vote only to extend the Bush Tax Rates, and nothng else. It makes the most sense..and forces Obama to have a huge fight with the debt celiing next year:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/03/gop-doomsday-plan-vote-present-on-middle-class-tax-rate-extension/


9 posted on 12/05/2012 9:40:13 AM PST by antonico
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To: skeeter

"Boehner’s really coming out of the closet, isn’t he."

Obama and the leftists must be laughing their tails off at how easy it is to get Boehnhead and his people to capitulate on everything.

10 posted on 12/05/2012 9:40:13 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: skeeter

I’m very curious as to what comment #2 was...


11 posted on 12/05/2012 9:41:10 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Qbert

expecting the market to dump in 5..4..3..2..


12 posted on 12/05/2012 9:41:19 AM PST by Gasshog
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To: Qbert

As the article states, the Administration has said that the House should go ahead and pass the Senate’s proposal, and then AFTER THAT, they will consider reducing spending.

Oh please, please, please tell me that Boehner is not considering that, too.

The Dems would get what they wanted in tax hikes on the so-called “rich,” and then go home for Christmas break (with the spending cuts never to be heard about again).


13 posted on 12/05/2012 9:42:08 AM PST by MNGal
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To: MrB

“&^% very much, B#ner.”


14 posted on 12/05/2012 9:42:59 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Qbert
Is it really so hard to explain that a great number of people with relatively high incomes are not wealthy? Or that wealth and income are different things? Or that high income earners are the ones that already pay most of the taxes? Or that their ranks change from year to year?

No. But it's much easier to go along to get along, especially when you don't give a hoot in hell about principle and instead want to hold on to your phoney-baloney job at all costs. This is why political parties die.

15 posted on 12/05/2012 9:43:52 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: Qbert

Tie an extension of the Bush rates to the AMT patch. If Zero doesn’t sign the patch he will be raising taxes on 28 million Americans this year (2012).


16 posted on 12/05/2012 9:43:58 AM PST by ironman
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To: skeeter

What a joke!!! If Boehner thinks the middle class is so stupid they don’t know their taxes are going up he’s insane. Everybody’s taxes are going up.

If you don’t believe it sit down with your 2011 tax return and take out all your deductions especially your mortgage deduction and your property tax deduction and then see how much more you would have paid.

The GOP would be better off to go over this stupid fake fiscal cliff and let Barry take the heat for it for a few months and then sit down to the bargaining table.

If you don’t like that idea then at least they should press ahead with the doomsday idea of just bringing the middle class tax cut extension up for a vote and let the Dems pass it with all the Pubbies voting present.

But never fear they won’t do any of the above. Look for Boehner to agree to pretty much whatever Obama wants. He’s the guy that thinks if he does what’s asked they will come for him last.


17 posted on 12/05/2012 9:45:35 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Qbert

soetoro praises allah


18 posted on 12/05/2012 9:46:04 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Qbert
Once again, Rush tap dancing around going after Boner!

WTF is up with you Rush?!?! Why don't you take the lead of your friend Mark Levin and go for Boner's jugular!

F-ing sad.

19 posted on 12/05/2012 9:47:52 AM PST by Artcore
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To: Qbert

Honestly, I can’t think of one good reason why I remain a registered Republican.

They don’t run decent people in my state. They don’t run decent people at the top.

I’d be a lot better off registering in another party, and join with other former Republicans who had done the same thing, to vote against the worst of the worst Democrats.

Perhaps the lot of us could pressure that party to move back toward the center. We sure as hell can’t get our own party to.


20 posted on 12/05/2012 9:48:13 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: Qbert

Bohener “challenges” Obama to come to the table and tell him what to do.


21 posted on 12/05/2012 9:48:16 AM PST by DManA
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To: Qbert

So Zero can blame the GOP when it fails to raise revenue. We are doomed.


22 posted on 12/05/2012 9:49:25 AM PST by DonkeyBonker (Hard to paddle against the flow of sewage coming out of the White House.)
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To: Qbert

The “rich” already DO pay more taxes. A LOT more, in fact.

This rhetorical tool to paint a pretty face on the family mutt is pure, unadulterated bull sh*t straight out of the pages of Das Kapital.

Marxism has always been the favored poison of the American masses, as long as it’s tafted up with phrases like “fair share” and other such Leftist catch phrases.

Meanwhile, congress eats up the public weal like a hog at the trough, and NO ONE, EVER mentions cutting expenses or clearing away the sort of red tape regulation that keeps business from generating income.

It’s a power game, and government holds all the aces.


23 posted on 12/05/2012 9:49:56 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: MNGal

"As the article states, the Administration has said that the House should go ahead and pass the Senate’s proposal, and then AFTER THAT, they will consider reducing spending. Oh please, please, please tell me that Boehner is not considering that, too. The Dems would get what they wanted in tax hikes on the so-called “rich,” and then go home for Christmas break (with the spending cuts never to be heard about again).

Yep. You can just see where that would go: Obama would urge House Republicans next year to pass their own bill of spending and Medicare cuts, etc.... and then Harry Reid would back out of his side of the deal, and prevent the bill from ever being voted on in the Senate. And then Dems would use the GOP's "austerity" bill to run endless ads against them in the midterms...

24 posted on 12/05/2012 9:50:14 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: DonkeyBonker
We were doomed the night Obama was reelected.
25 posted on 12/05/2012 9:50:37 AM PST by Artcore
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To: Qbert

,,,,, in other words Mr. Bonerhead ,,, the rich will pass their tax increase along to the middle class as has been the case every time they have had a tax increase . As Leona Helmsley once said “ rich people don’t pay taxes “ .

This is no secret to anyone on congress .


26 posted on 12/05/2012 9:51:04 AM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: Qbert

Spineless GOP-E creep.


27 posted on 12/05/2012 9:51:27 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Qbert
The GOP has gone over to the dark side. they’ve become the right hand of the left wing. To these political scumbags, power and influence trump Constitutional law. Conservatives are on their own now, because they have NO reperesentation in government now. And everyone around here stands around and scratch their heads trying to figure out how Marx, Lenin, Hitler, and Mao pulled it off. Unforunately, all who read this are going to get a hard lesson on how fascism/communism works.
28 posted on 12/05/2012 9:52:14 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Qbert
"Obama and the leftists must be laughing their tails off at how easy it is to get Boehnhead and his people to capitulate on everything. "

These negotiations are all boob bait for bubba. The GOPe wants to raise taxes, they buy their votes just like the left does.

29 posted on 12/05/2012 9:52:17 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Artcore

Caught Levin a bit last night - he was eviscerating Bonehead.


30 posted on 12/05/2012 9:53:03 AM PST by mykroar (BAD-ANON: One Game At A Time)
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To: Qbert
How could ANYONE who is a conservative support republicans and the GOP?

The rinos have won the republican party let them have it and destroy themselves!

31 posted on 12/05/2012 9:55:23 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: DoughtyOne
They don’t run decent people in my state. They don’t run decent people at the top.

I'm with you, and John Boehner is my Congressman. I'm done with the Republican party. And when I say done, I mean done.

32 posted on 12/05/2012 9:55:42 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: factoryrat

‘Two wings of the same bird of prey...’


33 posted on 12/05/2012 9:56:00 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Qbert

IMO, voting to extend the tax cuts for everyone but those over $250K is the worst thing the pubs can do. I say this realizing full well it means I will pay more taxes.

Instead, I’d let the all the tax cuts expire so everyone has skin in the game and I’d hang the SOB out in the breeze on the debt ceiling. Obama will give. He can’t afford to shut off the freebies


34 posted on 12/05/2012 9:56:04 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: Qbert

The truth is that the repugnant leadership wants higher taxes and bigger government... and I am tired of voting for and supporting progressives in the progressive republican party.

LLS


35 posted on 12/05/2012 9:56:59 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: antonico

what is the point to voting ‘present’ rather than ‘aye’?


36 posted on 12/05/2012 9:57:43 AM PST by HenryArmitage (it was not meant that we should voyage far.)
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To: Qbert
****-um, I sent some serious money to give Romney a Conservative Senate and they blew that too.

They will have their @$$es handed to them in 14' none of my time or money for sure....

37 posted on 12/05/2012 9:59:15 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Its all BS theater. Taxes are going up for everyone, the GOPe is already spending their share of the new 'revenues'.

We cannot allow these a-holes to fool us into believing they're just shmucks being gamed any longer. They are complicit.

38 posted on 12/05/2012 9:59:33 AM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

More layoffs, less jobs, more welfare recipients for food stamps and free Obamaphones. And they’ll vote Democratic even tho Obama’s policies took away their jobs. Because he gives them free Obamaphones and all the rest so they think he “cares” about them.


39 posted on 12/05/2012 9:59:34 AM PST by faithhopecharity (--)
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To: Qbert

Heh-heh. Just wait and see what will constitute “rich” in a couple of years. LOL!


40 posted on 12/05/2012 10:00:04 AM PST by Roccus
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To: mykroar
“Caught Levin a bit last night - he was eviscerating Bonehead.”
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Exactly! And now we're treated to Rush acting confused and bewildered about the entire thing.

Hey Rush WTFU and call for Boner's head (figuratively of course). Man, there are some days, I'm really beginning to question Rush's desire to continue on in talk radio. He should be calling for Boehner’s removal as Speaker. Instead he's just lethargically meandering all over the place trying his best not to “attack” Boner.

I just don't understand Rush on this.

41 posted on 12/05/2012 10:00:42 AM PST by Artcore
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To: Qbert

This is no suprise. Boner always gives barry what he wants, end of story. always has, always will.


42 posted on 12/05/2012 10:01:58 AM PST by sunny48
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To: eyeamok

I think Obama told him he would take him on vacation to Hawaii with him.


43 posted on 12/05/2012 10:03:29 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Artcore

Rush is not a conservative... he is a republican..


44 posted on 12/05/2012 10:03:48 AM PST by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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To: Qbert

So who’s gonna challenge Boehner for the Speaker’s post? Anyone? Anyone?


45 posted on 12/05/2012 10:03:48 AM PST by alancarp (Liberals: making promises that no one's wallet can keep,)
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To: Qbert

Until conservatives in the House are willing to oppose Boehner, at the risk of being purged from their committee assignments, then Boehner’s limp-wristed negotiating terms will be the Republican terms by default.

It’s past time for a coup d’etat, sending Boehner to the back benches (and an early tee time and happy hour).


46 posted on 12/05/2012 10:03:56 AM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

I’ve been sold out for the very last time.

I’ve been registered as a Republican since I turned 18 in 1969.

Over the last 24 years, I’ve been waiting for the next Reagan. Instead we keep getting the next LBJ.

Okay fine. The party can go where-ever it wants. I don’t have to go there with it.

When the Republican party only has 5% of the registered voters in the U. S., perhaps they’ll wake up. I seriously doubt it.


47 posted on 12/05/2012 10:06:09 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I'm starting to ponder this very same thing. I've about had it lubing myself up ready to receive the bipartisanship of the Stupid Party's “Leadership.”
48 posted on 12/05/2012 10:09:13 AM PST by Artcore
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To: Artcore
WTF is up with you Rush?!?! Why don't you take the lead of your friend Mark Levin and go for Boner's jugular!

Golf buddies, maybe.

49 posted on 12/05/2012 10:11:07 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Qbert

IMO, the Republicans should pass one bill that entends the Bush tax rates for everyone except for the top rate and make them PERMANENT and tie this bill to eliminating the AMT or raising it to inflation adjusted rates from the past 30 or 40 years.

Then pass a second bill that extends the Bush tax cut for the upper income taxpayers - let the Dems and 0bama shoot this bill down, so they own the tax raises.

Then threaten to shut down the government by not raising the debt celing if there are no spending cuts.


50 posted on 12/05/2012 10:11:19 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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