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US v. Bradley Manning: Being transgender doesn’t mean you’re unstable
Zinnia Jones (FTB site) ^ | December 5, 2012 | Zinnia Jones (Zachary Antolak)

Posted on 12/05/2012 10:07:21 AM PST by Salman

I’ve usually avoided talking about the trial of Private Bradley Manning, given that I’ve been directly involved with this situation before and I probably will be in the future. But I feel that certain recent developments in the case deserve to be addressed.

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As part of this phase of the trial, the court heard the testimony of Master Sgt. Craig Blenis, who acted as Manning’s counselor during his detainment at Quantico. According to reporters covering the hearing, Blenis stated that Manning had sent two letters from the brig using the name “Breanna”, and he considered this a reason to place Manning on Prevention of Injury status. Blenis claimed that this was “not normal” and “not stable”.

There is a history of some uncertainty over how Manning identifies. Prior to his arrest, he had spoken to a gender counselor online, and said he felt that he was female. He told his superiors in the Army that he had gender identity disorder, which he talked about in his conversations with Adrian Lamo. He also set up Twitter and YouTube accounts under the name “Breanna Manning”, and listed this as an alias when he was first confined at Quantico. However, the Bradley Manning Support Network have stated that he prefers to be addressed as Bradley, and when I talked with people who are in close contact with Manning, they all told me he currently identifies as male.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: bradleymanning; espionage; gay; homosexualagenda; nationalsecurity; tranny; treason; wikileaks
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Just a little more info about PFC Manning.
1 posted on 12/05/2012 10:07:27 AM PST by Salman
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To: Salman

Yes it does, Zinnia.


2 posted on 12/05/2012 10:10:45 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Salman

Uh.....isn’t “Bradley” a gay enough name as it is?


3 posted on 12/05/2012 10:11:19 AM PST by The Toll
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To: Salman

If you have a “disorder” then I would consider you to be unstable.


4 posted on 12/05/2012 10:13:31 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Salman

If you have a “disorder” then I would consider you to be unstable.


5 posted on 12/05/2012 10:13:36 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Salman

If you have a “disorder” then I would consider you to be unstable.


6 posted on 12/05/2012 10:13:42 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Salman

If you have a “disorder” then I would consider you to be unstable.


7 posted on 12/05/2012 10:13:52 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Salman

If you have a “disorder” then I would consider you to be unstable.


8 posted on 12/05/2012 10:13:52 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Salman

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2965867/posts

CIA recruiting those wonderful “Stable” types as we speak.


9 posted on 12/05/2012 10:14:04 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Salman

If you have a “disorder” then I would consider you to be unstable.


10 posted on 12/05/2012 10:14:04 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Salman

If you have a “disorder” then I would consider you to be unstable.


11 posted on 12/05/2012 10:14:04 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Salman

If you have a “disorder” then I would consider you to be unstable.


12 posted on 12/05/2012 10:14:08 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Salman

If you have a “disorder” then I would consider you to be unstable.


13 posted on 12/05/2012 10:14:08 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Salman

The quarterback - he was in the service AND he’s a transgender?


14 posted on 12/05/2012 10:15:15 AM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: circlecity

But the CIA is recruiting them.


15 posted on 12/05/2012 10:15:36 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: circlecity

Sorry about the multiple post, this IPad just took off on me.


16 posted on 12/05/2012 10:15:36 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

I usually get multiple posts from my browser taking a barf.
Pretty embarrassin’.


17 posted on 12/05/2012 10:21:30 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Salman

He might have been race-confused too and thought he was Asian.


18 posted on 12/05/2012 10:23:16 AM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Salman
I don't care how Manning identifies himself. He violated his security oath and caused hundreds of contacts to be killed as a consequence. He needs to face a firing squad.
19 posted on 12/05/2012 10:26:41 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Salman

ping


20 posted on 12/05/2012 10:27:07 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment,a Matter of Fact,Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: The Toll

Careful. Happens to be my middle name.


21 posted on 12/05/2012 10:27:31 AM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: circlecity

Step away from the IPad...
Step away from the IPad...
Step away from the IPad...
Step away from the IPad.


22 posted on 12/05/2012 10:32:23 AM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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To: Salman

This didn’t work to get Klinger out of the army so it shouldn’t work to get Manning out of jail. Breanna can sit in a cell for 20 or 30 years just as easily as Bradley can.


23 posted on 12/05/2012 10:34:38 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: RightOnline

Ha! I knew that was going to happen. Thats ok, my full first name makes me sound like a princess. I just chose to be a bit more masculine and shorten it. Unlike Ms. Manning here.


24 posted on 12/05/2012 10:36:53 AM PST by The Toll
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To: Salman
Being transgender doesn’t mean you’re unstable

Of course it doesn't. Why, you see transgender people walking down the street all the time. And look at all those transgenders the rich hire to be their bodyguards. And the stories about transgendered accountants at the big banks. Everyone knows they're as reliable as you or I.

25 posted on 12/05/2012 10:40:33 AM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: Salman
Likewise, being transgender doesn’t mean that someone is therefore “not stable” or is at risk of harming themselves. Can the condition of gender dysphoria sometimes cause enough distress to endanger someone’s well-being? Yes, but this is far from a certainty, and it doesn’t mean there’s an imminent risk that they’re going to commit suicide.

Sigh.

The author is of the opinion that not every single person who is transgender is dramatically unstable or a suicide risk. I think few would dispute him/her on this point. It is no doubt possible to be transgender and reasonably stable in all other aspects of your life.

But that's not the issue the military faced. They had to determine whether his on and off trans-identification was an indicator of possible instability.

And obviously it is.

You get into a variant of this argument all the time with discussions about the danger posed by mentally ill people. Those who claim there is no danger will dramatically shout that "not all mentally ill people are dangerous," or that "most mentally ill people are not dangerous to anyone else."

As with the Bradley/Brianna case, this is no doubt true. It's also totally irrelevant.

The question is not whether every mentally ill person, or even most of them, are dangerous. It's whether the mentally ill as a group pose a greater risk, and how much greater that risk is.

Sheeeesshhh.

26 posted on 12/05/2012 10:51:15 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Salman
For someone who’s transgender and identifies as a woman, the use of a name which they feel matches their identity is entirely normal.

IOW, this behavior is perfectly normal for someone who is highly abnormal.

Wait, what???

27 posted on 12/05/2012 10:54:04 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Salman

Gender is genetic.


28 posted on 12/05/2012 10:57:07 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Salman

If you find yourself occasionally removing nylons, panties and bras, you might be normal, but if you are removing them from a male body, including your own, you are weird, perverted, sick and..... YOU ARE UNSTABLE. You might even be a democrat.


29 posted on 12/05/2012 11:00:27 AM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: Salman
Just a little more info about Zinnia Jones from the web.

CHRISTIAN BIGOTRY: Zinnia Jones / “Don’t Give to the Anti-gay Salvation Army!” Posted on 11.26.2012 by AlwaysQuestionAuthority

If you care about gay rights, you’ll skip their bucket in favor of a charity that doesn’t actively discriminate against the LGBT community. The Salvation Army has a history of active discrimination against gays and lesbians.

30 posted on 12/05/2012 11:07:50 AM PST by omega4412
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To: Darksheare

Barf is to be expected with this topic.


31 posted on 12/05/2012 1:02:45 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: driftdiver

Sex is genetic. Gender is a term for the manifestations of sexual identity, and therefore is subject to some manner of flexibility.

As can be seen in some forms of the definition, such as “the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex”.

Gender was more focused on language; the use of gender-specific pronouns, or “gender-neutral wording”. At some point, maybe because people thought asking for one’s “sex” sounded too prurient, the term gender started being used as a replacement, for example asking for ones “age, race, and gender” rather than “age, race, and sex”.


32 posted on 12/05/2012 1:31:09 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“Sex is genetic. Gender is a term for the manifestations of sexual identity, and therefore is subject to some manner of flexibility.”

Liberal doublespeak gobbledygook

If you have XX you can’t change to XY through behavioral, cultural, or psychological actions. Heck not even through surgery can you change XX to XY.


33 posted on 12/05/2012 1:36:36 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Myrddin
caused hundreds of contacts to be killed

Source please. I guess I've been out of the loop for a while.
34 posted on 12/05/2012 1:38:54 PM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a lot of things in my life that I'm not proud of. And the things I am proud of are disgus)
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To: Salman

The attempt to normalize abnormal behavior can only bring frustration to those who attempt it.


35 posted on 12/05/2012 1:43:54 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: The Toll

No problem.....hey, Brad Pitt (yes, he’s Bradley) might take offense, too. :)


36 posted on 12/05/2012 2:10:37 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: The Toll; Ezekiel; Morgana; Tax-chick

False Identity Associative Disorder or something.

They deny the real world and now claim not to be unstable

lol


37 posted on 12/05/2012 2:24:19 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Salman

Man, woman, whatever. A traitor is a traitor.


38 posted on 12/05/2012 2:39:20 PM PST by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: Sherman Logan; GeronL

This writer may be a nutcase, but he’s incredibly good with apostrophes, although a little weak on number agreement, as is typical with the gender-conscious: they can’t choose “him” or “her,” and therefore they match “someone” with “themselves.”


39 posted on 12/05/2012 3:05:35 PM PST by Tax-chick (Get another cat.)
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To: Tax-chick
but he’s incredibly good with apostrophes

lolz... probably anal about it

40 posted on 12/05/2012 3:11:55 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Oooh, that was baaaaaaa’d.


41 posted on 12/05/2012 3:13:33 PM PST by Tax-chick (Get another cat.)
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To: Tax-chick

:p


42 posted on 12/05/2012 3:16:59 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive
Short memory? Here's a refresher: link and another link.
43 posted on 12/05/2012 3:20:14 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Salman

Somebody help me: What does his sexual orientation have to do with releasing classified info.


44 posted on 12/05/2012 3:53:23 PM PST by dearolddad
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To: Salman

Any man who wants to have his penis mutilated to form a “vagina” is indeed unstable.


45 posted on 12/05/2012 7:33:04 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Keep on keepin' on. And that ain't no jive. Stuck in the Seventies and loving it! 1976,baby!)
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To: Salman

A mental perversion disorder.


46 posted on 12/05/2012 7:48:08 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: driftdiver

Words have definitions. That isn’t liberal or conservative, it just is.

The term “Sex” is the literal term for the physical differences in a species. That is the 1st definition of “sex”:

SEX - noun: “1- either the male or female division of a species, especially as differentiated with reference to the reproductive functions.”

As opposed to Gender, which refers to linguistics:

GENDER - noun: (in many languages) a set of classes that together include all nouns, membership in a particular class being shown by the form of the noun itself or by the form or choice of words that modify, replace, or otherwise refer to the noun, as, in English, the choice of he to replace the man, of she to replace the woman, of it to replace the table, of it or she to replace the ship. The number of genders in different languages varies from 2 to more than 20; often the classification correlates in part with sex or animateness. The most familiar sets of genders are of three classes (as masculine, feminine, and neuter in Latin and German) or of two (as common and neuter in Dutch, or masculine and feminine in French and Spanish).

And other definitions of Gender:

“the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex “

And of course, it also has the definition “Sex”, as it is considered a synonym. But that wasn’t it’s primary use.

And since language is defined by its cultural use (sadly, but always the case), it is useful to know that the term “gender” has a different shade of meaning than “sex”.

I guess if you think it is important, you can argue to defend the literal definition of “gender”. That doesn’t seem to me to be where the real war lies, and not understanding how the language is used today makes it hard to converse with the generation we need to reach.


47 posted on 12/05/2012 10:23:41 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: driftdiver
Gender is genetic

It's also strictly a grammatical term. At least, it used to be.
The faggot Democrats sure know how to redefine words: "gay", "gender", "marriage", "honest"...

48 posted on 12/05/2012 10:32:25 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“not understanding how the language is used today makes it hard to converse with the generation we need to reach.”

The current generation doesn’t pull out a dictionary. The left is redefining terms at will and you want to argue the queens english.

Good Day


49 posted on 12/06/2012 3:10:44 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: darkangel82

Yes, I was surprised my browser held still and deadpan on this one.


50 posted on 12/06/2012 5:24:17 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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