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Conservatives bite back at House GOP leadership over purge (Boehner channels Stalin)
Wash Post ^ | 12/5/12 | Rachel Weiner

Posted on 12/05/2012 10:33:44 AM PST by jimbo123

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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Everyone that voted to enable the GOP when they ran a liberal candidate is responsible for what is going to happen.

/johnny

101 posted on 12/05/2012 1:54:01 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Everyone that voted to enable the GOP when they ran a liberal candidate is responsible for what is going to happen.”

With that same logic, what are those people that sat on their lofty, self-serving egos and didn’t vote? What responsibility do they have in this.

I say they have no dog in this fight, they didn’t vote so they should watch what comes out of their egotistic mouths. At least the ones that did vote tried to stop the complete take over by the marxist.

Do you really think this would be happening if Romney had won? The political atmosphere would be much different. These people, for the most part, live to stay in office. Go along, get along...it is rather amusing to watch the Republican Party imploding.


102 posted on 12/05/2012 2:03:53 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: jimbo123

Maybe there’s a bright side to all this. Since the great majority of House Republicans are strongly against tax increases, many having signed a pledge to that effect, if John Boehner were to agree to raise taxes on the rich now, he would not be able to continue as House Speaker. He might not even be able to enter the Republican section of the House in the future without being protected by a full suit of body armor.

So there are two possibilities: If John Boehner is an honorable, principled Republican, he will not agree to a tax increase on the rich; and, if he’s a slimy self-serving political hack, he won’t agree to a tax increase on the rich either, since he won’t want to lose his House Speakership.

If John Boehner caves, it will be a surprise, but if the House Republicans also cave and endorse John Boehner’s betrayal, it will be such a shock that there will no alternative for Conservatives except to start their own party. Which could be another bright side to all this.


103 posted on 12/05/2012 2:03:53 PM PST by Bluestocking
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To: BlatherNaut
How many Republicans vote for Obamacare?

Romney and Ryan said they were going to get rid of Obamacare but that wasn't good enough for Freepers so we are stuck with what we have. Freepers helped elect Romney and now they're bitching about Boehner not negotiating to their liking with the one they helped elect. Go figure.

104 posted on 12/05/2012 2:11:36 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; Darksheare; All
Romney and Ryan said they were going to get rid of Obamacare but that wasn't good enough for Freepers so we are stuck with what we have. Freepers helped elect Romney and now they're bitching about Boehner not negotiating to their liking with the one they helped elect. Go figure.

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Romney was elected? How did I miss that?

105 posted on 12/05/2012 2:14:58 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: BlessingsofLiberty
I don't know any that didn't vote. Some voted for someone besides the socialist D and the liberal R.

Besides, who came up with that 'if you didn't vote you can't complain' rule? 7 year olds?

/johnny

106 posted on 12/05/2012 2:37:15 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Freepers helped elect Romney and now they're bitching about Boehner not negotiating to their liking with the one they helped elect. Go figure.

That's either a Freudian slip, and you know you were trying to sell a liberal all along, or it's time for your meds.

/johnny

107 posted on 12/05/2012 2:40:28 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: trisham

Oops, should have said “defeat”.


108 posted on 12/05/2012 3:01:34 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“Freepers helped elect Romney and now they’re bitching about Boehner not negotiating to their liking with the one they helped elect. Go figure.”

Do you mean helped elect Obama? I hear you. It’s annoying that those who didn’t bother to vote against him complain about the continuation of his destructive policies.

But the fact is that the Republican members of the “arrogant capitol” cabal are heavily complicit in the D.C. spending orgy that has brought us to this pass. Their track record speaks for itself, so it’s no wonder many of us have low expectations in regard to Boehner and company’s vaunted concern about the “fiscal cliff” and their political competence vis a vis Obama.


109 posted on 12/05/2012 3:05:14 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Sure. All the other stuff was just fine.


110 posted on 12/05/2012 3:07:13 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: BlessingsofLiberty

Thanks for being reasonable. When Congressman Steve King tells me to get hysterical and to tar and feather Boehner, I’ll get on board but until I get something more concrete than what we have now, I’ll wait.


111 posted on 12/05/2012 3:09:09 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: GilesB

http://www.selfgovernment.us/about.html


112 posted on 12/05/2012 3:19:27 PM PST by EternalVigilance (America's creed: Our rights come from God, not men. Governments exist to secure those rights.)
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To: Ironfocus

http://www.selfgovernment.us/about.html


113 posted on 12/05/2012 3:21:03 PM PST by EternalVigilance (America's creed: Our rights come from God, not men. Governments exist to secure those rights.)
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To: liberalh8ter

http://www.selfgovernment.us/about.html


114 posted on 12/05/2012 3:25:09 PM PST by EternalVigilance (America's creed: Our rights come from God, not men. Governments exist to secure those rights.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
When Congressman Steve King tells me

Who is it, then, that's locked into group think and needs someone to tell them what to do?

Some of us decide things for ourselves and don't rely on notes from the party on who to support, and who to pillory.

/johnny

115 posted on 12/05/2012 3:25:25 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I'm old enough to remember Stalin and his killing of millions.

Well then you should also remember there were a whole lot of people who either knowingly or unwittingly helped Stalin rise to power to kill the millions. Perhaps history will show Boehner to to be an unwitting accomplice.

116 posted on 12/05/2012 3:27:19 PM PST by suijuris
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
When Congressman Steve King tells me to get hysterical and to tar and feather Boehner, I’ll get on board

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I guess I missed the posts on this thread that suggested that we "tar and feather Boehner". Perhaps you might point them out.

117 posted on 12/05/2012 3:35:11 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I am more than happy to see the destruction of the Republican Party.


118 posted on 12/05/2012 3:44:07 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Sam Gamgee
I am more than happy to see the destruction of the Republican Party.

I won't be rushing to find a fire hose, that's for sure.

Spin, crash, burn, gone works for me.

/johnny

119 posted on 12/05/2012 3:47:17 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: suijuris
Well then you should also remember there were a whole lot of people who either knowingly or unwittingly helped Stalin rise to power to kill the millions Perhaps history will show Boehner to to be an unwitting accomplice.

This website has gone nuts. Jim Robinson, either suijuris, or I should be banned because one of us is crazy.

120 posted on 12/05/2012 3:51:53 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Sam Gamgee

So how do you feel about the Democrat party?


121 posted on 12/05/2012 3:54:58 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

No we pi@@#d and have had it with those spineless RINO’s!!!


122 posted on 12/05/2012 3:56:18 PM PST by GregB (There is a whole lot of stupid out there. prisoner6!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
This website has gone nuts. Jim Robinson, either suijuris, or I should be banned because one of us is crazy.

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There is nothing wrong with this site. If you are unhappy here, no one is forcing you to stay.

123 posted on 12/05/2012 3:56:31 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
So how do you feel about the Democrat party?

Same as I feel about the Republican party. Mainly bitter disgust.

I guess that's appropriate, since it's two sides of the same socialist coin.

/johnny

124 posted on 12/05/2012 4:05:14 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
All I want is to have all of us understand the dire situation we are in right now

What with the "us" business, after spending the past hundred replies calling FReepers a mob of unthinking extremists?

The "us" boat has already sailed and you're at the helm. Bon Voyage.

125 posted on 12/05/2012 4:14:49 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
The "us" boat has already sailed and you're at the helm.

I LOLed so hard the catz did the lifeboat drill. I've got a keyboard to clean.

/johnny

126 posted on 12/05/2012 4:24:58 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: trisham

No, this website has gone off the deep end and when anyone defends the calling of Boehner the equivalent of Stalin, that means it’s gone too far. I feel sorry for all of you who feel this way. It’s extreme.


127 posted on 12/05/2012 4:28:35 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: JRandomFreeper

Glad you enjoyed it!


128 posted on 12/05/2012 4:32:58 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
No, this website has gone off the deep end and when anyone defends the calling of Boehner the equivalent of Stalin, that means it’s gone too far. I feel sorry for all of you who feel this way. It’s extreme.

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It seems from your posts that this may not the place for you. I hope you don't feel impelled to stay. That wouldn't be fair to you.

129 posted on 12/05/2012 4:35:01 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Oh, all right, you’re correct. It’s extreme to compare Boehner to Stalin. Boehner is really more of a quisling. He’d just be kissing Stalin’s @ss.


130 posted on 12/05/2012 4:36:31 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: liberalh8ter

I totally agree. I’m a county committee person, and just changed my registration to “Independent”.

Whoever said grandma may be Rove is prolly right-—he has some free time on his hands now.


131 posted on 12/05/2012 4:40:12 PM PST by Segovia
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To: jimbo123

Fire Boehner!

American Majority Action is trying to do just that.

AMA’s Ned Ryun said “Boehner has never won a negation battle with the White House or Senate—and he’s been nothing short of an embarrassing spokesman for the Conservative Movement. It’s time for him to go.”

Boehner needs 218 votes to become Speaker again. Seeing as there are 233 House Republicans next Congress, and assuming no Democrats would vote for Boehner as Speaker, if 16 conservative Republicans abstain from voting, Boehner wouldn’t regain the Speakership.

Dims would probably vote for Bonehead, just to keep him as Speaker. At least someone's trying to kick him out.

#FireBoehner

132 posted on 12/05/2012 4:44:30 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: Jane Long

I would love to see Newt back in the game.


133 posted on 12/05/2012 4:50:02 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Get used to extreme. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

I'm doing everything I can to get Dewhurst and Straus removed in Texas, and will do what I can to get Bonehead removed as speaker.

This is what happens when you try to marginalize Constitutional conservatives by calling them idiots for not voting for your liberal.

Enjoy it. I will.

/johnny

134 posted on 12/05/2012 4:52:03 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
This website has gone nuts. Jim Robinson, either suijuris, or I should be banned because one of us is crazy.

Sure, everybody else is crazy, except you, the resident RINO GOPe apologist. Like many Tea Partiers I look forward to dancing on your statist party's grave. It will sit in an unkempt and urine stained corner of the cemetery next to its predecessor, the Whig Party.

135 posted on 12/05/2012 4:53:11 PM PST by Sirius Lee (RE SP - Republicans, from Mitt Romney ..to Karl Rove... are said to be concerned she will win.")
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To: trisham

Newt, or Col West, would be great.


136 posted on 12/05/2012 5:00:44 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: Jane Long

I like both very much.


137 posted on 12/05/2012 5:03:16 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Segovia
I suspect many will be changing party affiliation and those who don't probably won't be contributing to the GOP, either. They've screwed the pooch.
138 posted on 12/05/2012 5:10:46 PM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Fine. Boehner is not Stalin.

He and the GOP are the Judenrat for the MarxoFascists.

I dare you to deny that fact given the fruits.

Boehner will hand-deliver Conservatives to the box cars headed for Obama’s re-education camps.


139 posted on 12/05/2012 5:19:33 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: jimbo123

The past 3 Christmases have all been spoiled because there has been a big show-down (Obamacare, then DREAM Act and giving up on our missile defense, and then the debt ceiling). The dems have deliberately not passed a budget since Obama’s been in office, to ensure that we keep spending impulsively, with Christmas as the backdrop. In all that time the R’s have not stood against the communist-Islamist alliance that put Obama into power. The worst was right after the 2010 midterm massacre, when there was the lame-duck House - and STILL we gave Obama everything he wanted, with a bow on top.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll keep saying it until something comes up to convince me that I’m wrong: I believe Soros’communist and Islamist allies made the run on the bank in Sept 2008 to change the trajectory of the election which was altered by Palin entering the race, and after having shown the world that they have control of enough money to TRULY send the world economy over the cliff, they threatened one key person after another with another run on the bank if they didn’t do exactly as they were told (which at first involved passing TARP to pay back the sharia-compliant, dem-supporting foreign banks that had helped do the run on the bank for the communist-Islamist alliance - and remaining silent about Obama’s ineligibility). Including President Bush, John McCain (but I don’t believe Palin was told), John Boehner as minority leader, Hillary Clinton (who also received threats to kill Chelsea), the media heads including Roger Ailes, Judge Surick (hearing Phil Berg’s eligibility lawsuit), Chief Justice Roberts, Judge Carter and the eligibility judges in turn, etc. As time has worn on and Soros saw there was no will to fight back, he has truly become the puppeteer - which is why the R’s who could have just waited until Jan 2011 to be the House majority instead gave up our missile defense, DADT, and the DREAM Act, in return for absolutely nothing.

There’s a lot I could say to explain why I believe this. Everything makes sense with this scenario, and without it a lot doesn’t make sense.

Obama has “more flexibility” now and has made it abundantly clear that he is trying to make Congress and the courts irrelevant. He is an un-Constitutional usurper (who cannot “qualify”as required by the 20th Amendment since Hawaii has now confirmed that his HI BC is not legally valid; he had to have been using a different BC his whole life long) and was put into place by illegal contributions by foreign Islamists (which was stated in a public speech by Ghadaffi - who was our chief Muslim ally against terrorism and is now dead at the hands of the US-supported rebellion that just killed our ambassador and 3 other Americans in Libya) specifically to defeat the US and what has made us exceptional: our checks and balances, separation of powers, Constitution, and rule by law rather than rule by men.

Look at all those above-listed elements that have kept us from being a banana republic all these years, and you see EVERY ONE OF THEM trodden roughshod by this administration while all the “conservatives”(and I do mean real conservatives too) appear to do nothing but pick their noses or prostrate themselves before the new pharaoh.

What people like Boehner need to realize now is that Obama is going to kill this nation one way or another, and if they stand up for the Constitution the patriots will at least die together if they can’t save this country. What Tyrone Woods’father said is absolutely correct: better to die with courage than live a coward. My hope is that some of the Congress-critters who weren’t directly threatened by Soros but were instead manhandled by Boehner (and the dem leadership as well - thinking of Ben Nelson here) will say in response to this whole mess the same thing that Obama is boastfully saying: We’re not going to play this game.

It’s time for a Senator or a Representative to file a lawsuit asking the courts to recognize Joe Biden as the acting President as of right now, because Obama could never qualify by Jan 20th - either in 2008 or in 2012 - without legally-determined birth facts. They’ve got nothing to lose and everything to gain. The only way to stop Sauron is to fight him. Now. Once that option is gone, Obama will have nothing to stop him. If that whole lawless can of worms gets opened up, at least the Constitution (and we peons who love it) will have a dog in the fight.

Otherwise, the communist-Islamist alliance will truly make both Stalin and Hitler look like a walk in the park. We’re talking “Arab Spring” coming to America, and sharia here will not look pretty - lots of Christians, Jews, and freedom-loving patriots will be executed, which is already going on in the countries Obama “liberated” and which Obama’s Islamist allies have already said will be coming here.

All the government agencies are being armed with hollow-point bullets - intended to kill, not to practice. Ghadaffi’s weapons are being given to Al Qaeda, and we already know that there are between 20,000-30,000 manpads “missing” (taken by Islamists or given to them) which are each capable of bringing down a commercial airliner. Direct unchecked flights from Iran to Venezuela have been bringing Hamas and Hezbollah operatives to the Americas, and Eric Holder has faithfully filed lawsuits to hold the door open for those operatives - aided by their drug-cartel allies (which Holder is also ARMING). We don’t know what has happened to the Syrian WMD’s (which include those which were shipped from Iraq to Syria in the run-up to Operation Iraqi Freedom, as per a standing agreement) but it is likely that they ended up in Iran. The agreement is to move the WMD’s to the safer place between Iraq, Syria, and Iran whenever one of them is in danger of invasion. Obama didn’t stand with the resistance in Iran but turned tail in Iraq and is threatening Syria now so Iran is reasonably the place the extra WMD’s went. If those WMD’s were sent from Iran on the direct, unchecked flights to Venezuela, there are most likely checmical and/or biological WMD stockpiles in every major city in the US, just waiting the signal to begin Arab Spring here.

BTW, the communists who met in the Weather Underground - Columbia University people like Bill Ayers, Barack Obama, Francis Fox Piven and Richard Cloward (who set up a plan to destroy America including 2 legal planks that Obama carried out in the only lawyerly action he did after allegedly being put through law school by the Saudi prince) - estimated that they would have to exterminate 15 million communist-resisting people come revolution. America’s enemies - communism and Islamism - have been dead serious all along and they have always intended their deadliness to dwarf Stalin and Hitler in America, where freedom and Christianity are strongholds. This is not conspiracy theory; it is self-admitted conspiracy fact.

At this point the only question is whether we will fight, or whether we will go without a fight. I say fight. To those who are afraid, I offer this: My family and me (as well as all Christians, Jews, and freedom-loving patriots) will be executed when Arab Spring gets here anyway, so why back away from the fight? Open war is upon us, whether we would risk it or not (to quote Aragorn from “Lord of the Rings”).


140 posted on 12/05/2012 5:21:29 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Wait just a minute. You ain’t Greatgrandma. You a woof in cheap clothing! (Grabs Uzi and high-tails it into the woods.)


141 posted on 12/05/2012 5:26:48 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: butterdezillion

Most Americans have no clue what time it is and most, (including many even here on FR) will call your observations ‘extremism’ and discount everything that the agendas laid out before us are going to achieve.

There is only one outcome to where we have arrived. We die free men or as slaves being led to our deaths.

There is no other future at this point for this nation that refuses to do II Chronicles 7:14.

The last liberty we have that can be exercised - is choosing how to go out. but eventually - even that will be taken away from us by the MarxoFascists and their Islamist allies.


142 posted on 12/05/2012 5:29:00 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
From the looks of it... your last ditch effort to support the Speaker isn't selling down at the real grass roots.

Know this. Down deep in my soul, I will never, ever compromise my principles and vote for or work for a liberal.

Of any party.

/johnny

143 posted on 12/05/2012 5:31:04 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Darksheare
How many times has Boehner completely caved to Obama?

Isn't the answer "every single time that Obama has asked"?

144 posted on 12/05/2012 5:31:30 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Oops, should have said “defeat”.

One of you should check Greatgrandma's Depends for her.
145 posted on 12/05/2012 5:32:56 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Segovia

Changing registration to Independent makes no sense, as you may exclude yourself from the 2014 Republican primaries, depending on your state. Of course, those primaries may be meaningless. Just as meaningless as committee assignments under Boehner


146 posted on 12/05/2012 5:38:39 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Theodore R.
as you may exclude yourself from the 2014 Republican primaries,

The Pubbies are going to have close primaries?

Next, you'll be telling me that primary voting will start in the south.

/johnny

147 posted on 12/05/2012 5:48:31 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: editor-surveyor

obama probably told him that he will not go after him or his seat if he caves.

Got to hand it to Pelosi and Reid, no matter how many times they lose seats they stick to their agendas and just rephrase their agenda.

Our side caves at every issue, immigration, taxes, homosexuality, an social issue.

What a pathetic lot we have, slo long as their power stays with them and their money keeps coming to hell with us but hell they can fight our people like Sarah, Newt, Col West


148 posted on 12/05/2012 5:56:44 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: INVAR

It’s really difficult to prepare your kids to die if the communist-Islamist coup takes complete hold, at the same time as telling them to study hard so they can get a scholarship to go to college. Cognitive dissonance, and both they and I know it.

I had a 3-hour conversation with my 10th-grade son on Monday night. He wished that I could talk to his AP government teacher, even though we both know that he wouldn’t really listen to a word I say. Neither the communists nor the Islamists have made any secret of their intentions, yet even after 9-11 people still think you’re crazy if you say there are people who want to destroy America and kill Americans. My son was sick last week so he was at home, and he did some reading, including reading the communist goals which were read into the Congressional record sometime in the 60’s. We both agreed that it is eerie to read the plan and see how utterly successful they have been. I read him parts of an interview by Yuri Bezmenov, describing the tactics of infiltrating the important positions in academia, media, business, government, etc. None of this stuff is secret.But after 9-11 the “cool people” STILL don’t believe it’s real. We’ve seen images of the Holocaust and know full well that we are dealing with people - now ALLIES OF THE SUPPOSED PRESIDENT - who believe the Jews had it coming and want to do it again.... yet most still think they are smart and cool if they call people “ëxtreme” simply for understanding history and the threats made against us. And that includes history/government teachers.

This form of government can only work with a people that is morally upright. America isn’t. Just like in Old Testament days, the Assyrians will be allowed to come in to wipe us out. Very, very difficult days ahead, and I think people have an uneasy realization of that in their gut, even while they deny it with their mouths.


149 posted on 12/05/2012 6:57:41 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
Prayers up. I sometimes forget about those with children here on FR, since so many are geriatric or anticipating it.

10th grader should be about 15 or 16. What you are teaching him is the truth of what happened.

My grandbabies are also grandchildren of a couple that lived through Pol-Pot in Cambodia....

Public school history isn't going to work for my grandbabies.

Not from either side of the line.

/johnny

150 posted on 12/05/2012 7:33:50 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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