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My Daughter's Job Interview (Teaching)
colocdn's daughter | May 8, 2012 | Vanity (colocdn's daughter)

Posted on 12/05/2012 10:53:12 AM PST by ColoCdn

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To: COUNTrecount

With the picture of MLK there, why not point to it and talk about him too? Let some of the air out of her Presumptuous tires.


51 posted on 12/05/2012 12:36:30 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: ColoCdn

All for the best. Teaching “diverse” kids is far worse than unemployment.


52 posted on 12/05/2012 12:38:39 PM PST by The Toll
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To: ColoCdn
About 25 years ago I interviewed for a job in Milwaukee with a company that produced products purchased almost exclusively by adult white males. The person who was what would now be termed the HR director was a black woman who did little more than ask me the racial equivalent of "have you stopped beating your wife" no-right-answer questions for almost 20 minutes.

She was well trained in the game, and I went into that arena almost unarmed by comparison. Between her and a "VP of Non-Sequiturs" whose hair had a rather obvious (and effeminate) permanent wave, I came away hoping they wouldn't hire me... and I was most gratified after a few weeks went by without my hearing anything from the company.

I was never able to wax eloquent about the experience, but it was valuable nonetheless.

Mr. niteowl77

53 posted on 12/05/2012 12:42:10 PM PST by niteowl77 (Getting stuck with other peoples' just desserts good and hard for over 50 years.)
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To: The Toll

That COULD have been code for a bunch of unreachable brats from every dysfunctional background that you’ve ever heard of, and some you haven’t.

But at this point, why not go ahead and ask the interviewer about that. Is that what you have in mind ma’am?


54 posted on 12/05/2012 12:47:38 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: ColoCdn

btt


55 posted on 12/05/2012 12:52:09 PM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: ColoCdn

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56 posted on 12/05/2012 12:52:25 PM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: alexander_busek

“No, I think all the students I taught were normal kids, none with multiple personalities or anything like that”

“Yes, all my students were diverse — we didn’t have any twins at all, much less Siamese twins”

“Well, I didn’t ask them, but in every room of 26 people you pretty much expect that two of them might have the same birthday — but still mostly diverse”

“I’ll answer that, but I have to know first — are you diverse?”

“I would love to teach the entire universe of students.”

“Some of them might have even been triverse — mind you, I was told not to discuss their sexual preferences...”


57 posted on 12/05/2012 12:53:07 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Red Badger
I once had to tell a highly qualified white man that he would not get the job he was interviewing for because I had been given orders to hire a minority.................

I'd gone in for an interview with Texas Parks and Wildlife. I was hired and went through all the paperwork, etc. The day before I was to start, my soon to be boss called and was very upset. Seems that they had to hire a black for the position. The job posting was open for at least six months after that and not one black ever applied. I should have filed against the state but was young and naive at the time. Right before that, I'd applied at the post office. The postmaster flat out told me he was required to interview me because I'd scored the highest on the test but that he was looking for a man for the job. If only I knew then what I know now...

58 posted on 12/05/2012 12:53:47 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: CSM
I would rather have seen her answer along the lines of, “of course I have, in fact every student I have ever worked with is his own unique personality and learning style. As a result, I have had to learn to teach to every single unique individual, to take into account his learning capability and style.” Take the opportunity to define Diversity for the interviewer and leave race out of it.

Exactly the right answer. I know these people. They use "diverse" as a synonym for "non white". But then it's also a trap, because the interviewer was correct: a roomful of Hispanics is not actually diverse, ethnically speaking. The correct answer would be use the question to showcase how you treat everyone as a unique and valued individual, regardless of race, ethnicity, etc. If they want to come back and say, but what about X, Y or Z ethnic groups, then at least they've had to expose their own narrow-minded view of diversity in the process, while you have had already taken the opportunity to tout something good about yourself.

59 posted on 12/05/2012 12:55:56 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Brooklyn Attitude~:” Diversity is the excuse used to justify discriminating against a highly qualified white man in favor of hiring unqualified minorities.”

My school district is one of the top ten school districts throughout the nation on teacher salaries.
They have been engaged in “diversity “ among teachers for the last 10 years ; they are more concerned about diversity rather than teaching ability , and the quality of education has suffered.
As a result of diversity , dispite the high level of teacher salaries , this school system has the distinction of graduation (from 1st grade - high school) of 10 % of African-Americans ; that means that 90 % fail to graduate.
To me , this says that the school system is not meeting the needs of the students , or the community.


60 posted on 12/05/2012 1:01:41 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt ("You never want a crisis to go to waste..."- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: ColoCdn

always ask the interviewer to define terms that you don’t understand. its a common way to trip a candidate up.


61 posted on 12/05/2012 1:04:27 PM PST by RitchieAprile (the obsteperous gentleman..)
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To: ColoCdn
My granddaughter had practically the same interview, she got the job, but had to flee for her life because she expected the students to preform.
62 posted on 12/05/2012 1:05:15 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Right out of college in the early 1970’s I went into an employment agency looking for job. The first thing out of the interviewer’s mouth was, “This goes no further than this room, but sorry to say if you were a woman or better yet a black woman I could get you interviews with every Fortune 500 company in town. As a white male I’ll do the best I can, but I can’t promise you anything.” Of course now that white women have served their purpose as useful idiots in the AA wars they are being jettisoned. Only people of color need now apply.


63 posted on 12/05/2012 1:05:24 PM PST by redangus
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

” then at least they’ve had to expose their own narrow-minded view of diversity in the process,”

And that is proof to you that you don’t want to work there anyway! ;-)


64 posted on 12/05/2012 1:11:55 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

“They have been engaged in “diversity “ among teachers for the last 10 years ; they are more concerned about diversity rather than teaching ability , and the quality of education has suffered.”

The diversity scam is self perpetuating since no matter how many “diverse” employees there are, they continue to hire them. When a diverse manager gets promoted, they tend to hire others like them. The quality of the organization goes downhill pretty quickly. Look at all the institutions ruined by this; police, fire, school systems, govt organizations. The whole system becomes disfunctional.


65 posted on 12/05/2012 1:16:40 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Red Badger

I had to go through the motions of interviewing white guys for a job that would go to a black person. I asked HR not to send any white applicants in (waste of their time). They said they could not do that. Management was adamant this employee would be black.

We finally ended up hiring a marginally qualified nice guy who came within an inch of getting fired and left after a few years. I still have the emails and applications somewhere.


66 posted on 12/05/2012 1:21:36 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Red Badger

I had to go through the motions of interviewing white guys for a job that would go to a black person. I asked HR not to send any white applicants in (waste of their time). They said they could not do that. Management was adamant this employee would be black.

We finally ended up hiring a marginally qualified nice guy who came within an inch of getting fired and left after a few years. I still have the emails and applications somewhere.


67 posted on 12/05/2012 1:21:38 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: redangus

“Right out of college in the early 1970’s I went into an employment agency looking for job. The first thing out of the interviewer’s mouth was, “This goes no further than this room, but sorry to say if you were a woman or better yet a black woman I could get you interviews with every Fortune 500 company in town. As a white male I’ll do the best I can, but I can’t promise you anything.” Of course now that white women have served their purpose as useful idiots in the AA wars they are being jettisoned. Only people of color need now apply.”

We believed the BS that these people only wanted a fair shake and an equal opportunity. It sounded reasonable but it was all a scam. They decided that qualifications were just an excuse for racists to discriminate so they lowered or eliminated them. Then they invented the 1 qualification where we could not successfully compete, diversity.


68 posted on 12/05/2012 1:25:07 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: ColoCdn

Looking for a job is like dating. If interviewer acts like a jerk, you must take that as a signal about the corporate culture and proceed accordingly. If they were that inconsiderate of you during an interview, what would life be like when they were actually your supervisor? I told my daughter often that people don’t wear signs around their necks divulging what kind of people they really were. If someone is so condescending I would just excuse myself and leave.


69 posted on 12/05/2012 1:25:38 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: ColoCdn

You Canadians are stealing all the good jobs from our Mexicans!)

She writes well enough to write for a living as opposed to teaching. “Those who can, do. Those who cannot, teach.”
When she publishes successfully the teaching jobs will be falling in her lap. You’ve taught her well.


70 posted on 12/05/2012 1:28:08 PM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: ColoCdn

The consequences of the government schools attempt to dumb down two generations, and the ACLU’s aim m to murder God in cold blood. Today the America we knew and loved is but a poignant memory to those of us over 75.


71 posted on 12/05/2012 1:29:32 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: alexander_busek

My response: “No, they were all human beings.”

...lol! It would’ve been 1 second later that she was shown the door but lol!


72 posted on 12/05/2012 2:07:43 PM PST by albie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

This was 20-21 years ago. Because we were a military contractor, we had certain ‘guidelines’ we had to adhere to.

One was you had to interview at least three prospective people for every job opening, one of which had to be a minority, and if you did not hire that minority you had to write a formal report as to why.

I had an opening for a Electronic Instrumentation Calibration Technician.

I went to Personnel, HR nowadays, and got TWO stacks of applications from them. Why two stacks?, I asked. One was for white applicants and the other was for minority applicants, I was told. But that’s racist, I protested. No, it’s GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS! The federal government had imposed some law or rule that minority applications HAD TO BE KEPT SEPARATE!

I was politely ‘informed’ that I HAD to interview at least one from the minority stack. I had no problem with this directive.

So I went thru the stacks and found three (2+1) interviewees that looked promising. It was really difficult to find a minority applicant who had any electronics background at all, much less a specialized one.

The First interview was with a young white kid, fresh out of some technical school with no real world experience. I’ll never forget him. He looked just like the comic actor Carrot Top, red hair and all. He was dressed in a suit and tie, really nice looking and all. His main problem at the interview? He would not shut up. He talked and talked and talked. I could hardly get a word in to ask any questions. Scratch him.

Second interview was a 40ish man with a family with a very good background in electronics theory and was familiar with all the technical terms and equipment. Well dressed and well versed in the field. He was the guy I wanted, but i HAD ALREADY BEEN TOLD I HAD TO HIRE A MINORITY so that our ‘numbers looked good’ to the government inspectors. He was the guy I told, in not so many words, that the company was looking for a more diverse employee count. He got the message. You mean, he said, that I really have no chance of getting this job. I just nodded and told him I would hire him in a second if I could and wished him luck.

The third interview was a 40ish black woman who had stated on her resume that she had worked as a QC inspector on a now defunct computer/video game company in South Carolina. I took her around the plant, as I did with all the applicants, and showed her the things we worked on and with. She could not name most of the equipment, and would only remark that she ‘had seen it before’. She was the one I wound up with.

As with all new hires, she had to take a drug test at the local clinic as a condition of her employment. She did not have a car, so I had to drive her to the clinic myself. Three days later I was told by personnel that she did not pass the drug test and was dismissed.

So I was back to square one, and hoped I could call that one guy with some good news, but it was not to be. I still had to hire a minority. Period.

As luck would have it, they had just gotten a new application from a girl just out of the Air Force with Calibration Lab experience! Now I had my ‘minority’ and a veteran to boot! She took to the job like she had always been there. She worked there for about a year and got a better calibration job in another town about 60 miles down the beach.

Our company was going thru some rough times and they had a big layoff, which included me. Even though I had worked there for over ten years, and built the Cal Lab up from nothing, I apparently made too much money and was one of the first to go.

She somehow got wind of my situation from talking to some of her friends at the company and gave me a call. She recommended me to her supervisor for the job opening they had and I was hired!........


73 posted on 12/05/2012 2:32:28 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Red Badger
I once had to tell a highly qualified white man that he would not get the job he was interviewing for because I had been given orders to hire a minority................."

Yep!

You were just obeying orders...A phrase that rings down through history...

74 posted on 12/05/2012 3:09:11 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: ColoCdn

About 19 years ago I walked into the office at Cal State San Marcos to drop off a resume and fill out an application. The quite nice young lady on the other side of the counter smiled at me and said:

“Too bad your not a minority or a woman!”

Hey, I thanked her for being honest. Then I got a job with a company for whom I still work today.


75 posted on 12/05/2012 3:11:46 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: ColoCdn
the picture of MLK behind her head

Ah yes, the idol and icon of racists. That told her all she needed to know about the character of the place. Same character as any street of the same name.

He stared down at me with knowing eyes. Brooding. Silent. Without reserve.

That's the idea. The dumb image knows nothing, but there it was, staring down in judgment, its false witness sitting behind the desk, eager to accuse with the Gotcha! game called "Diversity".

76 posted on 12/05/2012 4:47:33 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
“I’ll answer that, but I have to know first — are you diverse?”

Ding-ding-ding-ding! We have a winnah!

Regards,

77 posted on 12/06/2012 12:41:41 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Red Badger
She somehow got wind of my situation from talking to some of her friends at the company and gave me a call. She recommended me to her supervisor for the job opening they had and I was hired!........

Trippy story! Glad it worked out all right for you in the end!

Regards,

78 posted on 12/06/2012 12:45:48 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Gaffer
Yep. We didn't give them what they were expecting, so either they stuck their fingers in their ears and walked away, or couldn't comprehend the idea and walked away. End result was the same, either way.

Mrs WBill used to work for a gov't agency. She was tasked to hire a person, given a stack of resumes, and directed to "give preference to qualified minorities".

Humor, and wise-a** comments aside, how do you tell what color a person is from their resume? Government policy is endlessly fascinating to me.

Mrs WBill's brilliant idea? She picked the 2 or 3 resumes she liked and called the rest "unqualified". Problem solved.

And, the girl that she wound up hiring, who my wife said was easily the best person to come in the door, was a minority. Go figure.

79 posted on 12/06/2012 7:25:37 AM PST by wbill
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