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Toddler Shot Dead By 4-Year-Old Brother (MN)
WCCO.com ^ | 12/5/12 | WCCO Staff

Posted on 12/05/2012 3:58:54 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo

Police are investigating after a 2-year-old child was allegedly shot dead by another child.

Police said the shooting happened in Minneapolis’s Riverside neighborhood on the 1900 block of 7th Street South. They were called to the scene just before 1 p.m.

Authorities said the 2-year-old child was pronounced dead in the ambulance at the scene before he could be taken to the hospital.

According to Minneapolis Police Sgt. William Palmer, the toddler was shot by his 4 year old brother who was playing with a firearm.

Michelle Prestegard is a neighbor and witnessed the toddler receiving CPR.

“I saw the baby on the ground, on the grass next to the front steps and I saw paramedics performing CPR on the baby for quite a while,” said Prestegard. “They then stopped the CPR and then they picked him up. He had shorts and a T-shirt on. His body was just limp. His arms and his little legs fell back and they rushed him into the ambulance and the ambulance never left.”

(Excerpt) Read more at minnesota.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: toddler
This just breaks your heart. Two parents need to receive a very stiff penalty.
1 posted on 12/05/2012 3:59:04 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
This just breaks your heart. Two parents need to receive a very stiff penalty.

Yeah, prison. That'll teach 'em!

2 posted on 12/05/2012 4:05:14 PM PST by Drew68
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I do not understand how a four year old has an possible access to a gun. This is the type of abuse of fire arms that I hate.


3 posted on 12/05/2012 4:06:29 PM PST by Nifster
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

They needed a little bit of the “gun culture” in their house. No one in the gun culture would advocate leaving a loaded gun where a 4 year old can get at it.


4 posted on 12/05/2012 4:06:39 PM PST by DManA
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

This is a typical news story about guns. There isn’t enough information to make a decision concerning what happened. The action of most handguns is too stiff for a small child to operate. It doesn’t say whether the handgun was an automatic or a revolver.


5 posted on 12/05/2012 4:06:39 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

They have received a stiff penalty.


6 posted on 12/05/2012 4:07:50 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

You’re right. There is very little information in the article.


7 posted on 12/05/2012 4:09:12 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Nifster

Much is yet to be discovered, but one has to wonder WHY there was a loaded gun, accessable, in a home with four children ages 1-5.


8 posted on 12/05/2012 4:09:24 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR: Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Let’s see, this should be good for 437 more articles discussing the inherent danger of firearms, 432 of which will delete any mention of culpability on the part of the parental units who allowed the 4 yo to get his hands on the gun.

Can’t you just feel this movement growing...we need 3-4 more tragedy stories to come out, and then another anti-2A group to form with massive funding, with new messaging to come out, and they will work this and work this again and again.

Obviously, the 2 yo should have been aborted, right?


9 posted on 12/05/2012 4:17:07 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

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Police say the 4-year-old was playing with a handgun he had found in a bedroom when the shooting occurred.

Sgt. William Palmer confirmed both of the boy’s parents were both home at the time of the shooting. Three of the couple’s children — 1-year-old, 4-year-old, and a 5-year-old that was not home at the time — are now in protective custody.

Homicide investigators have been assigned to the case and are interviewing the parents, but no arrests have been made. Once complete, the investigation will be referred to the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office for possible charges against the parents.

Read more: Toddler shot, killed by 4-year-old brother in Minneapolis -

KMSP-TV http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/20270020/toddler-shot-killed-by-child-under-5-in-minneapolis#ixzz2EEJxnLcw


10 posted on 12/05/2012 4:19:26 PM PST by deport
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
A toddler shot dead by a four-year-old is a tragedy because of the gun, but over 700,000 unborn babies in the past year killed by their mothers is a constitutional right because of a few demented justices on the Supreme Court.

To put it in more perspective, since 1968 or so, there have been over 800,000 murders in the United States. Over roughly the same number of years, there have been over 53,000,000 abortions in the United States. In other words, for each murder there have been over 66 abortions. Any time you hear anyone refer to males being disproportionately involved in murder and, thus, the more violent of the sexes, point out that women are involved in the taking of human lives, especially innocent human lives, at a rate that is at least 6600% greater than men.


11 posted on 12/05/2012 4:30:58 PM PST by aruanan
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

The parents or whomever let the kids have access to the gun should be charged with murder of a child.


12 posted on 12/05/2012 4:31:40 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

maybe....just maybe, the gun had to be handy because the parents were gang-bangers...in the drug business, whatever. Not all guns are in the hands of law abiding citizens for their personal protection!! Let’s wait and see...


13 posted on 12/05/2012 4:44:46 PM PST by terycarl
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Don’t forget to take our guns away, Bob Costas.


14 posted on 12/05/2012 4:47:49 PM PST by Nitehawk0325 (Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Don’t forget to take our guns away, Bob Costas.


15 posted on 12/05/2012 4:48:03 PM PST by Nitehawk0325 (Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Tragic...Truly heartbreaking.

And just watch them blame the "evil malicious gun."

16 posted on 12/05/2012 4:48:16 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I have children ages 1, 5, and 9... There is at least one loaded gun near you no matter where you are in my house.

My children learn early that some tools are very dangerous. If they want to see them, they ask first. I take the mystery out of it for them and always emphasize safety.

Of course, I’m not a thug life gangster, or a bed-wetting ninny that treats tools like a forbidden secret.

You cant’t childproof the world, but you can do a lot to world proof your children.


17 posted on 12/05/2012 4:51:47 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Even s an adult I do not keep my guns loaded in my house


18 posted on 12/05/2012 5:04:02 PM PST by Nifster
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Two parents need to receive a very stiff penalty.

Like these parents?

San Jose cop not charged in son's death

19 posted on 12/05/2012 5:16:00 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

some people are just too stupid to own guns, have kids, vote, etc.


20 posted on 12/05/2012 5:27:59 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Nifster

You must live in an impenatrable home. Those weapons are useless to you as defensive weapons.

I raised 5 in a house with a loaded gun in almost every room including garage. They were taught early on to respect them. They never once touched them without permission. We spent hours in the pasture learning to respect and use them. It is entirely the parents’ responsiblity. Keeping them empty achieves nothing.


21 posted on 12/05/2012 5:30:09 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Nifster

Even s an adult I do not keep my guns loaded in my house

I hope you never have to need it. Home invasion,crazed meth user,etc. Mine is always loaded and ready.


22 posted on 12/05/2012 5:52:57 PM PST by bikerman (What ever happens from now is all OBAMA's fault. Obama lied,economy died)
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To: aruanan

“A toddler shot dead by a four-year-old is a tragedy because of the gun, but over 700,000 unborn babies in the past year killed by their mothers is a constitutional right because of a few demented justices on the Supreme Court.

To put it in more perspective, since 1968 or so, there have been over 800,000 murders in the United States. Over roughly the same number of years, there have been over 53,000,000 abortions in the United States. In other words, for each murder there have been over 66 abortions. Any time you hear anyone refer to males being disproportionately involved in murder and, thus, the more violent of the sexes, point out that women are involved in the taking of human lives, especially innocent human lives, at a rate that is at least 6600% greater than men.”

Amen.


23 posted on 12/05/2012 6:19:28 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR: Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: terycarl

“in the drug business”

Kinda where I’m going with this...


24 posted on 12/05/2012 6:25:57 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR: Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: Nifster

“Even as an adult I do not keep my guns loaded in my house”

I do. But, I’m the only one here.


25 posted on 12/05/2012 6:29:09 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR: Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Let’s see...the Riverside neighborhood, children 1, 2, 4 and 5, parents are home and an unattended gun in a bedroom. Were the parents expecting a delivery and I don’t mean the Fedex guy?

Does make one wonder if they were legal to carry?/s

Poor little kid(s). Throw their animal parents in jail for a long time.


26 posted on 12/05/2012 8:17:27 PM PST by mplsconservative (Barack Hussein 0bama has American blood on HIS hands!)
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To: deport
Ubama should pardon these parents. What happened, really, was just an abortion that happened a little bit later than, say, a "partial birth" abortion. Okay, so this was a "full birth" abortion. (shrug) Ubama understands.


27 posted on 12/05/2012 8:23:08 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: bikerman

I live in a different neighborhood than you do. If I lived in your part of the country I would be prepared as you are.


28 posted on 12/05/2012 10:04:08 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Resolute Conservative

I agree that it is the parents responsibility. I grew up in a house with guns and they were not loaded and didn’t need to be until we were going to go shoot them.

I am curious how you explain to a one year old not to touch a gun....loaded or otherwise.


29 posted on 12/05/2012 10:06:17 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Being a good parent with loaded guns entails a certain level of common sense. The gun(s) should be at least in a location that your average 5-6 year old or younger cannot reach. Examples: gun cabinets, closet shelves, top of book shelves, concealed in night stand drawers etc... I in no way advocate having weapons lying on coffee tables, on top of items in a night stand drawer and the such.

Our toddlers had no access to our room via baby gates and we actually had a half door on one room.

That said you start training them early on similar to handling hot kitchen items by utilizing negative reinforcement until you recognize an a state of cognizance starting to appear. Couple that with realistic tv and game access where shooting and death are not in the realm of fantasy.


30 posted on 12/06/2012 6:11:48 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Two parentsAll gun owners need to receive a very stiff penalty.

Turn 'em in, or have 'em taken!

Liberal solution to one gun owner's stupidity.

31 posted on 12/06/2012 8:28:20 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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