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Syria loads chemical weapons into bombs; military awaits Assad's order
nbcnews.com ^ | December 5, 2012 | Jim Miklaszewski and M. Alex Johnson

Posted on 12/05/2012 4:03:49 PM PST by John W

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To: M Kehoe
Assad is an Alawi. Traditionally these guys have been the Christian protectors.

They're a pretty tough crowd, but the Sunni don't consider them to be legitimate moslems. The Shi'ites elsewhere, e.g. in Iran, are more tolerant ~ but that's an uneasy alliance ~ the Alawites would just as soon kill Iranians as they would Sunni Arabs ~ maybe more ~ so whatever they've been doing it's been for some economic advantage.

Obama seems to view the Alawites as not exactly kosher ~ and as far as the Christians in Syria are concerned, they are dead to him.

BTW, when you have Obama and McCain on the same side, that's really bad news ~

51 posted on 12/05/2012 6:29:56 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: John W

Ruh roh! 0bambam is busy loading magazines of text into TOTUS as we speak.


52 posted on 12/05/2012 6:31:18 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: ExNewsExSpook
Somehow, the warhead exploded and chemicals were released, killing a number of participants.

That is a good thing.

53 posted on 12/05/2012 6:32:01 PM PST by JOE6PAK (The universe is a lot safer if you bring a towel.)
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To: DesertRhino

That is why you mix smoke, high explosives, and chemical weapon rounds together in a fire mission. The effect of high explosive rounds mixed with smoke and the occasional chemical rounds will not only cause confusion but will also enhance the chemical rounds because of the element of sunrise and the unknown.


54 posted on 12/05/2012 6:32:09 PM PST by DCBryan1 (If there is ever another revolution, we need to decorate telephone poles with the MSM.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Spot on.

Or the Tonkin Gulf Resolution. LBJ reportedly said “For all I know, our Navy was shooting at whales out there.” He was also reported to have said ““Hell, those dumb, stupid sailors were just shooting at flying fish!”


55 posted on 12/05/2012 6:36:56 PM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: M Kehoe

It sure is!


56 posted on 12/05/2012 6:37:22 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: muawiyah

Like I said. Let them exterminate themselves.


57 posted on 12/05/2012 6:52:30 PM PST by Wiggins
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To: reagandemocrat
Or the Lusitania.

All these false flag or setup criminal warfare incidents depend on a complicit lying MSM to publicly (falsely) accuse, try and convict the target, and cover up the massive criminal acts of the accuser.

58 posted on 12/05/2012 6:55:50 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Wiggins

how you expect to get Obamugabe and McCain to go over there and join their brothers?


59 posted on 12/05/2012 6:57:16 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: John W
I'm trying to recall here....wasn't President Bush chastized by the left for going into Iraq, and that there was no evidence of W.M.D. there????Sarin gas is a WMD and we know than Iraq had it because they used it on the Kurds.

We will all now panic and wonder what to do because Syria is about to use the gas which probably once belonged to Iraq before they dumped it over the border into Syria.

60 posted on 12/05/2012 7:02:42 PM PST by terycarl
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To: TheDon
Assad would be signing his death warrant by using such weapons

oh please...he is a dead man one way or the other...I think he might decide to go for the big exit.....what's to lose???

61 posted on 12/05/2012 7:08:48 PM PST by terycarl
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To: terycarl

Saddam’s “Special Weapons” went by air to Syria, Belarus, and possibly Russia and Libya as well.  They went by ground to Syria, and they went by sea to points unreported.   The plan was called “Sarindar” (”Emergency Exit”), and it wasn’t much different in general strategic terms from the American flight from South Vietnam.  Just as U.S. embassy officials shredded and burned documents when Saigon fell, and again in Tehran, Kabul, and a dozen other fallen nations, the Russians and others did what they could to move, hide, and/or destroy their sensitive documents, equipment that they’d provided to Saddam’s Regime, as well as (allegedly) his WMD and WMD equipment as well.   “By air, by land, and by sea” That is the claim made by Gen. Sada, Deputy Undersecretary of Defense Shaw, Gen. Ibrahim, Ariel Sharon, Israeli intelligence, and many more.

http://www.newmediajournal.us/staff/malensek/2006/04062006.htm


62 posted on 12/05/2012 7:12:43 PM PST by WVKayaker ("Hang in there, America. Fight for what is right." - Sarah Palin 11/7/12)
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To: John W; Ernest_at_the_Beach

I can’t help but think that this is a false flag operation being conducted by AQ using Libyan CW to propitiate Western intervention.


63 posted on 12/05/2012 7:28:39 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: M Kehoe
Ivan, and the Persians are going to be pissed.

What makes you think that? Neither of them give a crap about body counts and they will just find some way to blame it on the Jews, and the BBC and State run media in the US will find people to 'sort of' echo that opinion.

Does anyone remember when Nancy Pilosi suddenly showed up in Damascus to wet kiss Assad when she was trying to undermine Bush?

Miss Nancy must be proud of her buddy Assad now, and don't expect for a moment for the American MSM to remind her of the friends she made then trying to undermine US foreign policy for pure domestic political purposes.

64 posted on 12/05/2012 7:36:43 PM PST by Ditto
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To: John W
Seriously, why do we care about Muslims in Syria wanting to kill other Muslims in Syria when we do not give a damn about Israelis attacked by the same. Let them commit self-genocide. It is their actions. They were not chosen by God.

For those of you that think that one Muslim is better than another, you are sadly mistaken.

It is not our problem. Let them kill each other and don't spend a dime in my tax dollars stopping it.

The same goes for Egypt, Libya or other fine country of the same ilk.

65 posted on 12/05/2012 7:37:58 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (It is impossible to have a good faith negotiations with terrorists or any Muslim.)
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To: exit82

How can anybody doubt that Obama is trying to install the Muslim caliphate? Everything he has done has ousted the elements of stability in the Middle East and helped to install radical Islamists. He’s setting the world on fire.


66 posted on 12/05/2012 7:40:05 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: John W

Y’all highly underestimate the lethality of nerve agents. It’s effectivness relies mostly on the delivery system, but delivery has improved to a point much greater than WW1.


67 posted on 12/05/2012 7:47:31 PM PST by wolfman
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To: terycarl
oh please...he is a dead man one way or the other...

No, he'll live out his days on some beach villa in Cuba, Vietnam or Iran and baring that some Russian Dacha on the Black Sea.

68 posted on 12/05/2012 7:48:29 PM PST by Ditto
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To: John W

Maybe it is wrong to hope he uses such weapons against the moslem scum that is trying to gain more power in the region but the desire is there none the less.


69 posted on 12/05/2012 8:02:43 PM PST by soycd
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To: petitfour
Maybe someone with an I.Q. greater than I can read this very enlightening article and explain to me how 'Benghazi' might be directly related to what's happening now in Syria. Is the saran gas narrative a bunch of B.S. to justify direct U.S. involvement there? Is 0bama going to assist Putin in taking over Syria??? Is this what the "flexibility" comment was all about?? Anyway, if anyone's brave enough to help me out, here it is:

Part I: http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/51346

Part II: http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/51400

SUPPLEMENT: http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/51470

70 posted on 12/05/2012 8:06:30 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: reagandemocrat

See Post 70. Did you read that article? What do you think?


71 posted on 12/05/2012 8:07:39 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Royal Wulff

If he shoots them at Israel, Isaiah 17 will immediately follow.


72 posted on 12/05/2012 8:09:28 PM PST by Blogger
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To: DesertRhino

Many of the indigenous militiamen are returning HOME to their families in lulls in fighting.

Militiamen become completely ineffective if they are responsible for transporting parents, grandparents, inlaws, wife and kids in a desperate race to see refuge across the border, or even across ten miles of urban battlefield.


73 posted on 12/05/2012 9:09:18 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: TigersEye
Here he come to save da day

Gangsta Mouse is on the way

send his brotherhood homies to do a drive by ratatat{/fitycent voice]

(all to stop a humanitarian disaster, its for the children )[/NPR soft voice]

74 posted on 12/05/2012 9:10:31 PM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get $7....LOL !)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Glen Beck was saying that a while ago and I was wondering where he got the info.

I have this nagging hunch that Ambassador Stevens was probably ordered taken out by Obama because he knew too much about the gunrunning to Syria through Libya and was about to squeel

75 posted on 12/05/2012 9:20:36 PM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get $7....LOL !)
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To: KTM rider
Gangsta Mouse is on the way

LOL Look out! He might go on The View and say bad things about Assad.

76 posted on 12/05/2012 9:28:04 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: John W

USA COMMUNIST FALSE FLAG INITIATIVE TO INSTALL ISLAMIST REGIME IN SYRIA. THERE ARE NO SARIN GAS BOMBS,

THIS IS PURE PROPAGANDA TO ENABLE OVERT UNAUTHORIZED US MILITARY FORCES TO ATTACK SYRIA WITH NO CONSULTATION OF CONGRESS.

OBJECTIVE, OVERTHROW THUG ASSAD, INSTALL ISLAMIST REGIME WITH AL QUEDA FIGHTERS FUNDED BY USA THROUGH ARMS SHIPPED VIA QATAR.

OUTRAGE OF THE DAY. I HATE THIS OBAMA LYING COMMUNIST TYRANNICAL REGIME. THIS WILL MAKE BENGHAZI LOOK LIKE A TEDDY BEARS PICNIC.


77 posted on 12/05/2012 9:29:34 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: FlyingEagle

“THERE ARE NO SARIN GAS BOMBS,”

There might be some that we helped supply to the rebels. Lots of goodies crossing into Syria thanks to Obama.


78 posted on 12/05/2012 9:44:56 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: DesertRhino
Ah, Assad's chemical shells aren't 155mm caliber; they are 152mm caliber and are undersized for NATO gun tubes. Assad has Scud unguided artillery rockets that were designed for NBC warheads.

Benghazi was coordinating the shipment of ex-Libyan war materiel to the New Syrian Army rebels staging in Turkey against Syria. CIA was training NSA troops in the handling of chemical weapons for possible “false flag” ops against Assad in Syria. This would be used as a pretext for NATO [EU] and U.S. involvement to topple Assad. It also puts us directly on a collision course with Russia, China, and Iran that are backing Assad.

Barry and Hillary are playing with nothing short of World War III in the Middle East here and they appear to be clueless. Putin probably orchestrated the attack on the Benghazi site using Iranian proxies to put a shot across Barry's and Hillary's bows. They appear to be ignoring it as indicated by “leaks” like this of Assad deploying chemical weapons.

79 posted on 12/05/2012 10:16:01 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: grayhog

>> Must be faulty intel! There is no WMD!

Powell voted for Obama. So that shouldn’t be in question now.


80 posted on 12/05/2012 10:17:40 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: M Kehoe
Call me crazy, but this is the stuff of Biblical prophecy.

Indeed, it is the stuff of Biblical prophecy. QED, you aren't crazy at all...

the infowarrior

81 posted on 12/05/2012 10:18:42 PM PST by infowarrior
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Let’s pay attention to the Lefwing cuckers in media and the Democrat party to see if they make reference to the Kurds.


82 posted on 12/05/2012 10:19:51 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Thanks for the links.

I know this: The article is far more plausible than blaming the Benghazi murders on some cheezy video that noone ever saw.

Nothing this administration says is true. Nothing.


83 posted on 12/05/2012 11:36:40 PM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: petitfour

During the Nixon Administration the phrase was “do you have the ‘correct’ information?”. Liars lie.


84 posted on 12/06/2012 12:17:24 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: mojito

You can bet that they’re going to find WMD in Syria. They’ve got the cargo loaded and ready to fly in when needed.


85 posted on 12/06/2012 12:21:48 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: penelopesire

Why do you care what happens to Al Qaeda terrorists? Lets not get confused here, the people fighting against Assad, are Salafists, Al qaeda supporting terrorists.
Why are some ignorant idiots on FR constantly defending them?
You would expect this from DU retards, not here.
We had no business interfering and helping Al qaeda terrorists in taking over Syria and I understand if Assad will do anything possible to protect the Alawites and the Christians of Syria(YES THE CHRISTIANS)


86 posted on 12/06/2012 12:51:04 AM PST by hannibaal
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To: Old Grumpy

Heaven help us if he does cross the red line, and we do nothing. Better to be ambiguous, IMO, then to say things in public which will be used to show once again that we are all talk.


87 posted on 12/06/2012 1:08:36 AM PST by PghBaldy (Pete Hoekstra RE: Petraeus scandal - "There's more here than meets the eye.")
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To: M Kehoe

“Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city,
And it will be a ruinous heap.”
- The Prophet Isaiah, chapter 17, verse 1


88 posted on 12/06/2012 5:13:33 AM PST by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: TheDon
Assad would be signing his death warrant by using such weapons.

He knows that, if he loses, he winds up like Qaddafi, and all his family, and all his Alawite co-religionists will be massacred.

The knowledge sets him free to do anything at all.

His sponsor, Iran, might even prefer his using nerve gas, as an example of what Iran might do if pushed up against the wall.

89 posted on 12/06/2012 5:25:26 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: hannibaal

My concern is for Israel.


90 posted on 12/06/2012 5:28:25 AM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: infowarrior; M Kehoe

Syria as such, will cease to exist according to Biblical prophecy.

Sodom and Egypt will occupy the Holy City...

And somewhere North of Tel Aviv is a nuclear bunker built by the United States ....


91 posted on 12/06/2012 5:28:44 AM PST by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: Navy Patriot

No, no, no, see it’s much better to let all the chemical, biological and nuclear materials go into the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas and Al Queda when Assad flees Syria. Keep our troops out lest they prevent the terrorist groups from obtaining these weapons!

/s


92 posted on 12/06/2012 5:50:16 AM PST by Justa
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To: penelopesire

My concern is for Israel.


You should also be concerned that Israel has dumped us in
reciprocation. If we were still allies, Assad wouldn’t have
gotten anywhere near this far.


93 posted on 12/06/2012 5:50:24 AM PST by txhurl (Zero on America: Drive it like you stole it)
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To: mojito

And the kicker is those are the chemical weapons that were in Iraq.


94 posted on 12/06/2012 5:59:18 AM PST by angcat
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To: txhurl

I don’t blame Israel for ‘dumping us’....dumping Obama. The man cannot be trusted to have Israel or the US best interests at heart. It is increasingly apparent that Obama is installing a caliphate of radical Muslims throughout the Middle East. My concern is not for Assad..but the fact that these weapons are going to fall into the hands of terrorists and probably already have because Obama has done nothing to secure or destroy them...he doesn’t want to. The sooner people realize that the man is out to destroy our country and western civilization, the better.


95 posted on 12/06/2012 3:59:23 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: reagandemocrat
Yeap, I read that, too.

“One aspect of the weapons plan was to set up a false flag operation to make it appear that Assad used chemical weapons against his own people."

What else to believe these days. It's like OBL raid: no pictures, no videos, no DNA, etc., expect the photoshop picture showing the tallest guy in the picture looked the shortest. :-)

96 posted on 12/07/2012 12:10:53 AM PST by hamboy (Psalm 109:8: Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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To: hamboy

They really think we’re that stupid: “Part of the justification for Gulf War II was Hussein had deployed sarin gas against the Kurds, his own people. So if we can make it look like Assad is gassing his people, then those damn conservatives will look like hypocrites if they complain”

Win/win.


97 posted on 12/07/2012 10:40:02 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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